[Xmca-l] Re: Research on refugees/immigrants/migrants and Legitimate Peripheral Participation?

[Huw Lloyd]

It's about a living community which is expressed through participation (in
which learning is a by-product), in the same way that gifts can be tokens
for the expression of love.

So, in principle one can explore how conviviality (Illich's term denoting
access to processes of production) is a necessary factor in nurturing a
community.

But contrary to LLP's focus there is also strife, striving, and suffering,
in which will and consciousness are mustered against hazard, of which
cognitive development can be seen to be an example. This is where the
agency of the individual plays its part and is excluded from the LPP
accounts, such as the the butcher's 'apprentices' who spend all their time
on one repetitive task. In a life of striving one does not wait timidly for
an opportunity to engage in a new skill. Hence one can also be 'gifted'
with problem situations which allow one to realise agency.

The two needn't be seen as disparate or polarities, of course. But without
agency, situated practice can also be seen to be oppressive, like a
communal song that entrains affect according to prescribed thoughts. Hence
here we have a portrayal of the kind of understandings that a researcher
has having influence upon what they discover -- wheels within wheels.

Huw

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 12:20, Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@ils.uio.no> wrote:

> Just to add, that the problem I'd like to learn more about is, how does a
> framework that takes apprenticeship and community as starting point help
> when the object of research is one that concerns oppression and
> dehumanisation?
>
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
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> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@ils.uio.no>
> *Sent:* 27 June 2019 02:37
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Research on refugees/immigrants/migrants and
> Legitimate Peripheral Participation?
>
>
> I cannot help with this, Greg, since I don't know of work specifically
> connecting the two. But if your student gets to write about that, I'd be
> very interested in reading her/his work.
>
>
> A few days ago, I was listening Amy Goodman's interview with a lawyer who
> visited children detention centres in the US border. I literally cried as I
> was commuting to work listening to the horrendous inhumanity being
> described.
>
>
> (Interview here:) https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2019/6/24
>
>
> Now, reading your question, I wondered, what is "legitimate participation"
> for a child in a detention center? What is the center and what the
> periphery in such a context? And for a Syrian refugee in a shelter in
> Turkey? Is there anything like a community of practice that belongs to
> being a refugee or immigrant?
>
>
> Not that I am sceptical about or questioning the relevance of the approach
> to the issue. Just that I don't know how, would like to know.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
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> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 26 June 2019 18:23
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Research on refugees/immigrants/migrants and
> Legitimate Peripheral Participation?
>
> Just wondering if anyone out there could point me to research on
> refugees/immigrants/migrants and Legitimate Peripheral Participation (or
> otherwise connect the former with Lave and Wenger's communities of
> practice)?
>
> (this is for a student of mine)
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>
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