[Xmca-l] Re: Passions, (Projects?) and Interests

[Andy Blunden]

I can see that "Human understanding is by nature abstraction 
from experience," but if you say that "this 
experience should include other people's experience," then 
that is /really/ making abstractions your starting point. 
What do you know of someone else's experience?

Andy

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 12/01/2019 10:41 pm, James Ma wrote:
> PS: Andy, this experience should include other people's 
> experience as well since life is too short. I 
> think Saussure ad Vygotsky would agree. :)
> James
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 10:28, James Ma 
> <jamesma320@gmail.com <mailto:jamesma320@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     It has to be abstractions, Andy. Human understanding
>     is by nature abstraction from experience. James
>
>
>     On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 10:20, Andy Blunden
>     <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>
>         So we have axiological, ontological,
>         epistemological and motivational angles to line
>         up. Amazing people ever get to do anything by the
>         time they figure that all out. :)
>
>         How would you go about conceiving of human life
>         holistically, rather than a sum of all these
>         abstractions?
>
>         Andy
>
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>         Andy Blunden
>         http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>         On 12/01/2019 8:58 pm, James Ma wrote:
>>         Hi Huw, I agree with you very much. What's
>>         behind one's interest is by all means an
>>         ontological and epistemological stance as a
>>         driving force to deal with what there is to
>>         appeal to one and how one might go about
>>         pursuing it. Above all, one has an axiological
>>         positioning that is meshed with his/her
>>         ontological and epistemological stance.
>>         James
>>
>>         On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:58, Huw Lloyd
>>         <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com
>>         <mailto:huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             For Vygotsky, interests are intentions. 
>>             Although he recognises that Lewin's
>>             structural theory is inadequate with regard
>>             to discerning the essence of interests, his
>>             own writings in that chapter focus upon
>>             developmental patterns of interests, and he
>>             does not get around to being explicit about
>>             what is behind interest -- what is really
>>             driving it. To a certain extent this is
>>             answered with the social situation of
>>             development, but unless one reads between the
>>             lines there is a great deal of vagueness,
>>             such as with reference to psychological
>>             functions.
>>
>>             I have a rather large theoretical paper I am
>>             completing on this to compliment some
>>             empirical work. What I state is that it is
>>             epistemology (and ontology) that is the
>>             interest behind interest.
>>
>>             Best,
>>             Huw
>>
>>
>>
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