[Xmca-l] Re: anachronism

[HENRY SHONERD]

What if someone intentionally violates some one elses decorum, knows full well it will rankle, even enrage? This happens these days a lot on the internet, especially anonymously. 
Henry

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 4:03 AM, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
> 
> Nice one, Rob, a ever. But that is an explanation for a cultural faux pas, not the act itself. A fish out of water can still behave correctly,
> andy
> Andy Blunden
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> On 17/09/2018 7:58 PM, robsub@ariadne.org.uk <mailto:robsub@ariadne.org.uk> wrote:
>> "Fish out of water"?
>> 
>> On 17/09/2018 10:41, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>> Andy,
>>> 
>>> I think you mean "from a different culture" rather than "out(side) of a culture". So anachronism refer in this context to an utterance that is from a different time (and culture) applied to the contemporary. So I think the sense that you are looking for is "projection", or "cultural projection".
>>> 
>>> Huw
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 06:33, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>>> Yes, I mean it in the sense Boas meant when he first used it in the plural - "cultures".
>>> 
>>> I liked Helena's observation, of all the words we have for people who don't belong to the relevant culture, but I mean a word to describe ideas, claims, beliefs which are "blind" to the incongruity of the idea with the relevant cultural context. This is often a kind of anachronism, but not always. The lack of a word arose in a controversy here in Oz when US cultural norms were used to judge an action in an Oz cultural context. ... That drew my attention to the lack of a word, but I don't want to discuss the issue itself on this list.
>>> Andy
>>> Andy Blunden
>>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm <http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
>>> On 16/09/2018 3:21 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>>>> Andy,
>>>> Yes, it might depend on what you mean by "culture". No need to get into the battles over the word as anthropology has over the past 30 years but it would be worth knowing what you mean. 
>>>> 
>>>> For example, David's reference to Vygotsky's very fashionable (yes, at that time...) term "primitive" relies on a rather old fashioned meaning of culture as "refinement" and "development." Thus E. B. Tylor's title Primitive Culture was anachronistic (in the sense of an idea before its time) because, on this common understanding of these terms, "primitive culture" was an oxymoron. 
>>>> 
>>>> I assume that you mean culture in the sense that anthropologists use it today (or, I should say, as they used to use it not so long ago). Is that right?
>>>> 
>>>> -greg
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:40 PM Andy Blunden < <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>>>> Everyone knows what "anachronism" means. "Out of time" so to speak.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a word for "out of culture"?
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
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