[Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity
MOISES ESTEBAN-GUITART
moises.esteban@udg.edu
Sun Jun 17 10:21:16 PDT 2018
First of all a “triple thank you”. Thanks Alfredo for reopening this
collective space to “inter-thinking”. Thank you Adam for your paper, in
particular, and your great contributions on the funds of knowledge and
funds of identity approach, in general. Thank you Andy for you insights
and for helping us to understand better the concept of “perezhivanie”.
Indeed, as we know, it is a vague one, produced in the ending of
Vygotsky’s life and such as other vygotskian concepts we really need
develop it further.
The Poole’s paper invited me to enrich the notion of funds of identity.
Grounded in the funds of knowledge approach, the funds of identity concept
try to intentionally reinforce the positive backgrounds and experiences of
learners to overcome the deficit thinking in education (to sum up: by
reducing marginalized school population to a sum of cultural, social,
linguistic deficits). However, our experience is not only light. And in
the dark funds of knowledge suggested by Zipin, existential funds of
identity invite us to capture a more holistic view on people’s experience.
In my opinion, deep learning (meaningful, significant learning) is based
on the recognition and transformation of learners’ identities. This
assertion, that would be one of my working hypothesis, assumes three
theoretical principles: (1) that human identities are culturally-situated
and distributed (geographical funds of identity, cultural funds of
identity, institutional funds of identity and so on); (2) that there is a
constitutive link between learning and identity (as so many scholars
suggested and developed) and (3) that meaning (significant experience)
plays an important role as a learning generator. Here in mind, I would
like to share three questions or topics that can help us to understand the
Adam Poole’s paper, in particular, and further advance our
conceptualization on contemporary topics as perezhivanie, in general.
1) Do you think that existential funds of identity should be considered as
a type of funds of identity? In other words, should be incorporated into
the prior classification into geographical, practical, institutional,
cultural and social funds of identity? Or may be should be considered as a
“re-theorization” of funds of identity?
2) How we could link the concepts of identity and perezhivanie?
3) One of the aims of funds of identity is to develop an approach to the
construct “identity” that had educational implications. What are the
educational/pedagogical implications of the existential funds of identity?
moises
--
Moisès Esteban Guitart
Director
Institut de Recerca Educativa
Facultat d'Educació i Psicologia
Universitat de Girona
http://mipe.psyed.edu.es/ca/
http://psicologia.udg.edu/PTCEDH/presentation.asp
https://scholar.google.es/citations?user=cpA9UZEAAAAJ&hl=en
> Think of the origin of the idea of "catharsis." Originally
> it referred to the experience of an audience watching a
> Greek drama - their own emotions are played out in front of
> them. Later is referred to a medical method of "purging" an
> illness through vomiting, and it was adapted from there to
> refer to the talking cure, in which the patient externalised
> their problem with the help of the therapist. From
> psychotherapy it entered popular culture as an image of
> someone experiencing a traumatic personal transformation, I
> think.
>
>
> You may be quite right in terms of phases, Adam, but I think
> "reflection" and "catharsis" are closely tied together. I
> talked a lot about catharsis being to do with "processing"
> an experience, overcoming it, integrating it into one's
> personality, which does indeed sound like something very
> different from "catharsis" as I've just described it.
>
>
> It's up to you guys who are doing the qualitative research
> to figure it out though.
>
>
> Andy
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 18/06/2018 1:33 AM, Adam Poole (16517826) wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks to Andy for getting the discussion started
>> on Resituating Funds of Identity.
>> In response to describing a perezhivanie in terms of
>> phases - I think it may be because I interpreted
>> the working over of a critical episode in terms of a
>> process, and so divided a perezhivanie into three phases.
>> This was also a result of the data - I took your
>> interpretation of a perezhivanie and used it to analyse
>> the data, but in analyzing the data, there appeared to be
>> a distinction between reflection and catharsis, which I
>> lead utilized in interpretation your interpretation of a
>> perezhivanie!
>> I had in mind the dictionary definition of phase:'a
>> distinct period or stage in a process of change or forming
>> part of something's development' (from Google) and 'a
>> distinguishable part in a course, development, or cycle:
>>
>> * the early phases of her career' from the
>> Merriam-Webster online dictionary.
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> I also understood reflection as a pre-requisite for
>> catharsis, in that a critical episode may remain
>> unaddressed or perhaps even repressed (or blocked), but
>> becoming conscious of the episode leads a person to
>> reflect on it which in turn can lead to catharsis.
>> Similarly, reflecting on your life, through narrative,
>> such as funds of identity approaches, can trigger
>> reflection and unblock a critical episode which can lead
>> to catharsis and integration.
>> Adam
>> *
>> *
>> *From:* Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org
>> <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>>
>> *Date:* 15 June 2018 at 16:52:58 CEST
>> *To:* <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
>> *Subject:* *[Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity*
>> *Reply-To:* "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
>>
>> I really liked this paper. I would like to make a brief
>> response on the following passage which cites my own work:
>> "Accordingly, Blunden distinguished three main units or
>> phases in his account of /perezhivanie/,
>> which, according to our data, occur in the following
>> order: critical episode, reflection, catharsis
>> and integration. That said, it has to be stressed that
>> this movement may not be linear or occur in the
>> order that we here present. We define the three phases of
>> a /perezhivanie/as follows:
>> â— Critical episode: a traumatic experience or a
>> life-changing episode in one’s life that leads to a
>> blockage in psychological development.
>> â— Reflection: the process of becoming conscious of,
>> reflecting on, and talking about the critical
>> episode with a significant other, such as a teacher or a
>> parent.
>> â— Catharsis and integration: the processing or working
>> over of a critical episode in order to
>> assimilate it into the personality."
>> The summary is a good one. As to the interpretation in dot
>> point, I would make the following observations:
>>
>> * The critical episode may be an /unblocking/. I often
>> reflect on an important /perezhivanie /in my life in
>> which a protracted negative experience of which I was
>> hardly conscious, I broke through in one critical
>> episode only seconds in duration which was utterly
>> exhilarating, and as it happened the world changed
>> around me and I became new person, in my own and
>> others' eyes.
>> * Reflection is an integral part of catharsis I think. I
>> don't know how I would express this in terms of
>> "phases." I really see it as a two-phase process,
>> though on reflection just now, I have realised that
>> there was a gradual phase preceding the critical
>> episode which I had not thought about before. I grant
>> that there are internal "meditative" processes as well
>> as changes in social interaction. So the distinction
>> between the internal and external processes is valid,
>> but I don't think they can be separated in 'phases'.
>>
>> While I agree that a dichotomy between positive and
>> negative experiences is questionable, the distinction is
>> needed. The positive episode is developmental only because
>> of the preceding negative experience preceding it.
>>
>> Andy
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>> Andy Blunden's Home Page
>> <http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
>> www.ethicalpolitics.org
>> Andy Blunden's Home Page with links to pages I maintain
>> and mail-to buttons
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> On 15/06/2018 4:48 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, I am
>> afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the
>> otherwise many and insightful conversations that
>> characterise the list during this end of semester. But I
>> am back with an invitation that I hope you will find
>> interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.
>>
>> I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for
>> discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.
>>
>> The article is entitled /Resituating Funds of Identity
>> Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, /by
>> Adam Poole and Jingyi
>> Huang. Extending conceptualisations of funds of knowledge
>> and funds of identity by means of drawing a connection
>> with the concept perezhivanie, the authors present the
>> idea of *existential* funds of identity. What makes
>> interesting this latter concept is that, by contrast to a
>> most frequent sole focus on positive community resources
>> as constituting those funds of knowledge/activity, Poole
>> and Huang propose exploring how not only positive, but
>> also negative, life-changing experiences may become a
>> potential resource for individual/collective activity.
>>
>> Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his
>> article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with
>> extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge.
>> Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be
>> with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in
>> developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises
>> Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the
>> discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting
>> and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon,
>> and we have also identified a list of scholars interested
>> in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In
>> the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance
>> to have a look at this interesting article and find it
>> worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is
>> welcome to contribute to the discussion.
>>
>> Looking forward to an engaging discussion,
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Katherine
>> Wester Neal)
>> 2. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
>> 3. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
>> 4. Necessities and Necessariness (David Kellogg)
>> 5. Re: Necessities and Necessariness (Andy Blunden)
>> 6. Resituating Funds of Identity (Alfredo Jornet Gil)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 01:13:52 +0000
>> From: Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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>> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the Babies movie, and
>> yes, it's perfect for this course. Now I have lots of
>> reading to do!
>>
>>
>> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be
>> happy to post the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar
>> course.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Alfredo
>> Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>>
>> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I
>> am glad.
>>
>>
>> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we
>> will sooner than later have a web platform for collecting
>> this type of resources, such as course syllabus, etc. in
>> one place, so that next time someone looks for the same,
>> they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible
>> to do searches using keywords in xmca:
>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
>> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but we are
>> hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Martin
>> Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> Sent: 05 June 2018 22:12
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Some resources here too:
>>
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
>> article suggestions also welcome... :)
>>
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From:
>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge
>> <jrtudge@uncg.edu<mailto:jrtudge@uncg.edu>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Hi, Katie,
>>
>> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>>
>> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Jonathan Tudge
>>
>> Professor
>> Office: 155 Stone
>>
>> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
>>
>> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.)
>> Developing gratitude in children and
>> adolescents<https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>>
>> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>>
>> Mailing address:
>> 248 Stone Building
>> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> PO Box 26170
>> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> USA
>>
>> phone (336) 223-6181
>> fax (336) 334-5076
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
>> <mpacker@cantab.net<mailto:mpacker@cantab.net>> wrote:
>> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this? :)
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cultural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> "I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie
>> or discuss matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I
>> become at once aware that my partner does not understand
>> anything in the matter, and I end usually with the feeling
>> that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello xmca-ers,
>>
>> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a
>> course I'll be teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's Cultural
>> Nature of Human Development, what else would you recommend
>> in that vein? In the course, we will be exploring multiple
>> constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Katie
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
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>> From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of
>> Childhood:
>> Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of
>> childhoods across
>> multiple cultures.
>>
>> Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
>> Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America
>> 1790 to Present
>> Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>>
>> And a sociological one that looked interesting:
>> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
>>
>> And I came across this more accessible book while
>> searching for the Kett
>> and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so
>> can't vouch for
>> quality):
>> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>>
>> Good luck!
>> -greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie,
>> and yes, it's
>> > perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>> >
>> >
>> > If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd
>> be happy to post
>> > the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> > on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>> >
>> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> >
>> >
>> > That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie,
>> I am glad.
>> >
>> >
>> > Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully
>> we will sooner
>> > than later have a web platform for collecting this type
>> of resources, such
>> > as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time
>> someone looks for
>> > the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is
>> still possible to do
>> > searches using keywords in xmca:
>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
>> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but
>> > we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Alfredo
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> > on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> > *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
>> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> >
>> > Some resources here too:
>> >
>> >
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
>> article
>> > suggestions also welcome... :)
>> >
>> > Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> > Assistant Professor
>> > Teacher Education & Literacy
>> > Gordon State College
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> > on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> >
>> > Hi, Katie,
>> >
>> > Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>> >
>> > I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-
>> > Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=
>> > 1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+
>> > children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> >
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >
>> > Jonathan Tudge
>> >
>> > Professor
>> > Office: 155 Stone
>> >
>> > Our work on gratitude:
>> http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
>> >
>> > A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L.
>> (Eds.) Developing
>> > gratitude in children and adolescents
>> >
>> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> > Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>> >
>> > My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>> >
>> > Mailing address:
>> > 248 Stone Building
>> > Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> > PO Box 26170
>> > The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> > Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> > USA
>> >
>> > phone (336) 223-6181
>> > fax (336) 334-5076
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
>> <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this? :)
>> >
>> > <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
>> > ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr.
>> Lowie or discuss
>> > matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at
>> once aware that my
>> > partner does not understand anything in the matter, and
>> I end usually with
>> > the feeling that this also applies to myself?
>> (Malinowski, 1930)*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello xmca-ers,
>> >
>> > Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a
>> course I'll be
>> > teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of
>> Human Development*,
>> > what else would you recommend in that vein? In the
>> course, we will be
>> > exploring multiple constructions of childhood across
>> different cultures.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help,
>> > Katie
>> >
>> > Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> > Assistant Professor
>> > Teacher Education & Literacy
>> > Gordon State College
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Anthropology
>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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>> From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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>> and a few more on the anthropology front (in case you are
>> still interested):
>>
>> Bambi Chapin's *Childhood in a Sri Lankan Village* is very
>> good. Gottlieb
>> and De Loache have a new *A World of Babies* edition out.
>>
>> ?And ?
>> Elise Berman
>> ? has a book coming out at the end of January that does
>> some good
>> theorizing of "age", including "childhood". The title of
>> her book is:
>> *Talking Like Children: Language and the Production of Age
>> in the Marshall
>> Islands.* Oxford University Press
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Greg Thompson
>> <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology
>> of Childhood:
>> > Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of
>> childhoods across
>> > multiple cultures.
>> >
>> > Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
>> > Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America
>> 1790 to Present
>> > Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>> >
>> > And a sociological one that looked interesting:
>> > https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_
>> > EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+
>> > construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_
>> > 2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%
>> > 20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
>> >
>> > And I came across this more accessible book while
>> searching for the Kett
>> > and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so
>> can't vouch for
>> > quality):
>> > https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=
>> > A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=
>> > EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=
>> > onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> > -greg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie,
>> and yes, it's
>> >> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd
>> be happy to post
>> >> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> >> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>> >>
>> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
>> childhood?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That was a great list of recommendations you got,
>> Katie, I am glad.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully
>> we will sooner
>> >> than later have a web platform for collecting this type
>> of resources, such
>> >> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next
>> time someone looks for
>> >> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is
>> still possible to do
>> >> searches using keywords in xmca:
>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
>> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but
>> >> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Alfredo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> >> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> >> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
>> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
>> childhood?
>> >>
>> >> Some resources here too:
>> >>
>> >>
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>> >>
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
>> article
>> >> suggestions also welcome... :)
>> >>
>> >> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> >> Assistant Professor
>> >> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> >> Gordon State College
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> >> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
>> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
>> childhood?
>> >>
>> >> Hi, Katie,
>> >>
>> >> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>> >>
>> >> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societi
>> >>
>> es-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=
>> >> 8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%
>> >> 2C+class+and+child+rearing
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Jon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan Tudge
>> >>
>> >> Professor
>> >> Office: 155 Stone
>> >>
>> >> Our work on gratitude:
>> http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
>> >>
>> >> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L.
>> (Eds.) Developing
>> >> gratitude in children and adolescents
>> >>
>> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> >> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>> >>
>> >> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>> >>
>> >> Mailing address:
>> >> 248 Stone Building
>> >> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> >> PO Box 26170
>> >> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> >> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> >> USA
>> >>
>> >> phone (336) 223-6181
>> >> fax (336) 334-5076
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
>> <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this? :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
>> >> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>> >>
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr.
>> Lowie or discuss
>> >> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at
>> once aware that my
>> >> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and
>> I end usually with
>> >> the feeling that this also applies to myself?
>> (Malinowski, 1930)*
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello xmca-ers,
>> >>
>> >> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for
>> a course I'll be
>> >> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of
>> Human Development*,
>> >> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the
>> course, we will be
>> >> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across
>> different cultures.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your help,
>> >> Katie
>> >>
>> >> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> >> Assistant Professor
>> >> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> >> Gordon State College
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> > Assistant Professor
>> > Department of Anthropology
>> > 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> > Brigham Young University
>> > Provo, UT 84602
>> > WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>> <http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Anthropology
>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:00:06 +0900
>> From: David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Necessities and Necessariness
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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>> Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
>> exactly two
>> decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of Necessity",
>> which was Engels's
>> exaptation of a Heglian formulation (which in turn comes
>> from Spinoza.
>>
>> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
>>
>> As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
>> recognition of
>> necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of philosophical
>> resignation to
>> one's fate, but in Marx and Vygotsky it is a kind of
>> active realization of
>> one's own labor and hence one's own selfhood in the
>> transformation of the
>> environment.
>>
>> The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
>> these. On the one
>> hand, externalization is active in nature, because it
>> really involves
>> turning the tables on the environment and forcing it to
>> adapt to human
>> necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
>> for "one's own
>> labor" and still less for "one's own selfhood": "One" is not a
>> statistically significant, hence not a necessary, number.
>>
>> I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
>> to make a
>> distinction between externalization as the recognition of
>> the necessariness
>> of necessities, and externalization as the recognition of
>> both one's own
>> necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
>> two distinct
>> processes, belonging to two different stages of
>> development (and to the
>> deveopment of tools on the one hand and signs on the
>> other). But perhaps
>> "seem" is the word I should be stressing.
>>
>> (In the article linked below, which I did with my wife,
>> there is this four
>> year old girl who is trying to learn the times tables. She
>> keeps getting
>> stuck: Why can't you just put three and five together and
>> get thirty five?
>> Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
>> nothing: Your
>> presumed necessariness is not as important as instrumental
>> necessity. And
>> of course at one stage of development that is true; but
>> "sustainable
>> development" is everywhere and always a contradiction in
>> terms: no
>> development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
>>
>> David Kellogg
>> Sangmyung University
>>
>> New in *Early Years*, co-authored with Fang Li:
>>
>> When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
>> idiom ? and
>> maths in the grandmother tongue
>>
>> Some free e-prints available at:
>>
>> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
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>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:00:59 +1000
>> From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Necessities and Necessariness
>> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
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>> David,
>>
>> The text you have discovered is indeed 20 years old. At that
>> time I knew nothing about Hegel, and nor could I find anyone
>> to learn from, and there were very few philosophical texts
>> available on the nascent internet. So I started copy-typing
>> Hegel texts on to my web site and encouraging people to
>> discuss them. This was my own do-it-yourself university. And
>> I have preserved this old discussion in case they are of use
>> to others.
>>
>> Now, the text you discovered is written *all* by my old
>> friend Davie MacLean, who was in those days a big fan of
>> Heidegger but an avid student of all philosophy. The first
>> part is addressed to me and the second part copied from a
>> letter from Davie to Cyril Smith, my star participant in
>> that discussion. Davie and I were both enthralled with
>> Cyril's new book, "Marx at the Millennium" and Cyril's
>> participation was an attractor for people to join in the
>> discussion.
>>
>> Here are some messages from Cyril to give you context:
>> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/cyril25.htm
>>
>> Much as I enjoyed my debates with Davie, I did not emerge
>> from them as a fan of Heidegger. During the past 6 months I
>> have been spending a lot of time studying Hegel's Philosophy
>> of Right. I certainly do not see the question, and nor did
>> Hegel, in terms of "reconciliation to one's fate," which is
>> indeed much closer to Spinoza's view.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>> On 9/06/2018 8:00 AM, David Kellogg wrote:
>> > Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
>> > exactly two decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of
>> > Necessity", which was Engels's exaptation of a Heglian
>> > formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
>> >
>> > As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
>> > recognition of necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of
>> > philosophical resignation to one's fate, but in Marx and
>> > Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of one's own
>> > labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation
>> > of the environment.
>> >
>> > The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
>> > these. On the one hand, externalization is active in
>> > nature, because it really involves turning the tables on
>> > the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
>> > necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
>> > for "one's own labor" and still less for "one's own
>> > selfhood": "One" is not a statistically significant, hence
>> > not a necessary, number.
>> >
>> > I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
>> > to make a distinction between externalization as the
>> > recognition of the necessariness of necessities, and
>> > externalization as the recognition of both one's own
>> > necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
>> > two distinct processes, belonging to two different stages
>> > of development (and to the deveopment of tools on the one
>> > hand and signs on the other). But perhaps "seem" is the
>> > word I should be stressing.
>> >
>> > (In the article linked below, which I did with my
>> > wife, there is this four year old girl who is trying to
>> > learn the times tables. She keeps getting stuck: Why can't
>> > you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
>> > Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
>> > nothing: Your presumed necessariness is not as important
>> > as instrumental necessity. And of course at one stage of
>> > development that is true; but "sustainable development" is
>> > everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
>> > development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
>> >
>> > David Kellogg
>> > Sangmyung University
>> >
>> > New in /Early Years/, co-authored with Fang Li:
>> >
>> > When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
>> > idiom ? and maths in the grandmother tongue
>> >
>> > Some free e-prints available at:
>> >
>> > https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 06:48:18 +0000
>> From: Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Resituating Funds of Identity
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, ?I
>> am afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the
>> otherwis?e many and insightful conversations that
>> characterise the list during this end of semester. But I
>> am back with an invitation that I hope you will find
>> interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.
>>
>>
>> I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for
>> discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.
>>
>>
>> The article is entitled ??Resituating Funds of Identity
>> Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, ?by
>> Adam Poole and Jingyi Huang. Extending conceptualisations
>> of funds of knowledge and funds of identity by means of
>> drawing a connection with the concept perezhivanie, the
>> authors present the idea of *existential* funds of
>> identity. What makes interesting this latter concept is
>> that, by contrast to a most frequent sole focus on
>> positive community resources as constituting those funds
>> of knowledge/activity, Poole and Huang propose exploring
>> how not only positive, but also negative, life-changing
>> experiences may become a potential resource for
>> individual/collective activity.
>>
>>
>> Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his
>> article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with
>> extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge.
>> Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be
>> with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in
>> developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises
>> Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the
>> discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting
>> and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon,
>> and we have also identified a list of scholars interested
>> in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In
>> the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance
>> to have a look at this interesting article and find it
>> worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is
>> welcome to contribute to the discussion.
>>
>>
>> Looking forward to an engaging discussion,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
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