[Xmca-l] Re: Swedish activist Elon Ersson wins the day

[Andy Blunden]

... to continue this dialogue on winning and losing, a
now-departed friend who was a writer once commented to me
after we had together watched an inspiring play performed by
Melbourne Workers' Theatre, that for the working class
*every* struggle, every story of victory, ends in defeat,
simply because the object of the workers' movement lies if
at all in the future; the road to socialism is a series of
small victories followed by defeats. Until .... So Elon is
acting in a fine tradition.

The distinction between goal and object (by whatever names)
was relevant for the recent xmca discussion around the
Brazilian social movements, which kept popping up with
different goals, but, one suspects, shared a common object.

Andy

PS. For the distinction between goal and object, I rely on A
N Leonytev's succinct definition of action: "Processes, the
object and motive of which do not coincide with one another,
we shall call ‘actions’." but choice of words for object,
goal, aim, motive, etc., is problematic. I have chosen
"object" for what Hegel calls "Intention" and Leontyev calls
"motivation" and "goal" for what ANL calls "object" in the
above quote.

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 25/07/2018 10:21 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
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> She achieved her goal. Her object will take longer to
> realise. Important to recognise the difference.
>
> Andy
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> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 25/07/2018 10:18 PM, Julian Williams wrote:
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>> Andy
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>> She wins and yet she doesn’t – the guy she went to
>> ‘rescue’ was deported on another flight, but she got the
>> support of people on the plane (some even joined her
>> protest) and is being applauded by millions worldwide
>> now: this is a growing aspect of resistance activism,
>> losing and winning.
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>> And the battle against deportations, and indeed fascism,
>> in Sweden and elsewhere continues….
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>> Julian  
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>> *From: *<xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of
>> Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
>> *Reply-To: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 13:11
>> *To: *"xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] Re: Swedish activist Elon Ersson wins
>> the day
>>
>>  
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>> Yes, you can see the stress on his young women's face and
>> she stands strong under enormous pressure and she wins.
>> Wonderful!
>>
>> andy
>>
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>>
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
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>> On 25/07/2018 10:07 PM, Julian Williams wrote:
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>>     I think you and xmca may like this:
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>>     https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/25/swedish-student-plane-protest-stops-mans-deportation-afghanistan
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>>      
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>>     ☺
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>>      
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>>     Julian
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