[Xmca-l] Re: Interesting article on robots and social learning

[Andy Blunden]

It seems to be obvious that the robot does not have
motivation. It's motivation lies, as you say, in the
activities of human beings in which it is included. The
human participants in such activities have that motivation
within themselves though, and consequently they have
motivations. The robot has no more motivation than a hammer
has motivation.

Andy

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Andy Blunden
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On 3/07/2018 9:16 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
>
> Andy, are not motives aspects of activities (not of
> individuals)? If so, the question you just posed does not
> seem to make sense, does it? 
>
>
> Another question would be, is there a robot that can be
> the subject of sensuous, objective activity? Obviously,
> the Turing test would not be able to answer this question.
> But would a test capable of addressing that
> question consist in finding out whether the robot "has"
> emotion, or "motivation"? Or, what would such a test look
> like?
>
>
> Alfredo
>
>
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> Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
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> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Interesting article on robots and
> social learning
>  
>
> Does a robot have "motivation"?
>
> andy
>
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> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 3/07/2018 5:28 PM, Rod Parker-Rees wrote:
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>>  
>>
>> What is most interesting to me about the understanding of
>> learning which informs most AI projects is that it seems
>> to assume that affect is irrelevant. The role of caring,
>> liking, worrying etc. in social learning seems to be
>> almost universally overlooked because information is seen
>> as something that can be ‘got’ and ‘given’ more than
>> something that is distributed in relationships.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Does anyone know about any AI projects which consider how
>> machines might feel about what they learn?
>>
>>  
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Rod
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> *On Behalf Of *Greg
>> Thompson
>> *Sent:* 03 July 2018 02:50
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Interesting article on robots and
>> social learning
>>
>>  
>>
>> I’m ambivalent about this project but I suspect that some
>> young CHAT scholar out there could have a lot to
>> contribute to a project like this one:
>>
>> https://www.sapiens.org/column/machinations/artificial-intelligence-culture/
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Greg 
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>
>> Assistant Professor
>>
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>>
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