[Xmca-l] Re: Bacon's Law

[David Kellogg]

Andy:

In the chapter you have up on the marxists.org website, Bacon is cited
three times. Seven paragraphs from the end is:

"Man is part of nature, his behavior is a natural process, and controlling
it forms like all control of nature, according to Macon’s principle that
“nature is overcome by subjection.” Not in vain does Bacon place control of
nature and control of intellect in one order; he says that the bare hand
and the mind taken in themselves do not mean much – the deed is done with
tools and auxiliary means."

"Macon" is obviously a transcription error. So the question is whether
"Macon's principle" refers to the same thing as Bacon's law in the
nineteenth paragraph. The Russian term for the nineteenth paragraph is
правилу Ф. Бэкона which could be "law" or "rule" or "principle" or
"precept", i.e. aphorism. "Macon's principle" is "принципу Бэкона", i.e.
the "principle"or "aphorism" of Bacon.

In the Notebooks, the reference you want is p. 117, an entry dated April 3,
1928. Vygotsky refers to it as his "epigraph". Zavershneva and Van der Veer
footnote it as "one of Vygotsky's favorite quotes". But of course there is
another quote from Bacon that Vygotsky cites in Thinking and Speech,
Chapter 2, p. 76:

"(PIaget) forgets Bacon’s familiar argument that true knowledge is
knowledge which traces a process back to its cause’"

As David says, take your pick!

dk

David Kellogg
Sangmyung University

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:07 PM, WEBSTER, DAVID S. <
d.s.webster@durham.ac.uk> wrote:

> My copy runs ‘Nature cannot be commanded…’ take your pick
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> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@
> mailman.ucsd.edu] *On Behalf Of *David Kellogg
> *Sent:* 21 August 2018 11:44
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Bacon's Law
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> Natura non vincitur nisi parendo” (Nature cannot be vanquished until she
> is obeyed). is Aphorism 3 of Book 1 of Novum Organum Scientiarum. Vygotsky
> was impressed by this aphorism and wanted to use it as the epigraph for a
> book on the history of the cultural development of the child, which later
> became The History of the Development of the Higher Mental Functions.
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> David Kellogg
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> Sangmyung University
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> New in *Early Years*, co-authored with Fang Li:
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> When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan idiom … and
> maths in the grandmother tongue
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> Some free e-prints available at:
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> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
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> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:19 PM, Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> wrote:
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> There should be some sentences by Bacon about theory and practice saying
> something how he conceives theory and how "by a sloping path" practice
> becomes conceived.
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> Anyone remembering or knowing it please?
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> Ulvi
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> 21 Ağu 2018 11:23 AM tarihinde "Andy Blunden" <andyb@marxists.org> yazdı:
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> In https://www.marxists.org/archive/vygotsky/works/1931/self-control.htm,
> Vygotsky refers to "Bacon's Law." Maybe one can guess from this and the
> other reference to Bacon what Vygotsky means by "Bacon's Law," but is there
> anyone who can actually give me the source in Bacon?
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> Andy
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