[Xmca-l] Re: Does the All-Stars article document a social movement?

Andy Blunden ablunden@mira.net
Thu Oct 12 04:53:59 PDT 2017


David the typical kind of social movement discourse I find
useless is the demarcation issues which academic departments
and learned journals engage in to decide whether some social
process fits in their subject area. This kind of discourse
takes the peace, civil rights, anti-war, feminist and
environmental movements of the 1960s and 70s as models and
something is a "social movement" by comparison with these
models.

So I am saying it adds nothing to prove that the All Stars
Project is or is not a social movement.

The study of social movements has given us theoretical and
empirical material to understand how ideas (practices)
spread, the conditions which promote or inhibit their
growth, the kind of life=process movements have, how they
interact and influence each other, etc., etc. This material
turns out to be useful across a wide range of social
processes, processes which are in fact generically connected
with one another. What is the purpose of ruling out
activities which have not (yet) begun to proliferate, or
which have faded out or been displaced by other activities
or been co-opted or institutionalised, from study using
concepts derived from social movement studies, and vice versa?

Andy



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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 12/10/2017 10:03 PM, David Kellogg wrote:
> ... Andy. (I also
> think that your own position makes no sense. On the one hand, the whole
> question of what social movement is can be dismissed as "useless". On the
> other hand, the moment when a social movement stops moving is a "useful
> lens".)
>
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
> Helena, the assessment of the All Stars Project Inc. as a
> "social movement" is nothing to do with what takes place
> between the kids who are recruited into the program and the
> adult organisers. It is to do with the process described on
> pp. 221-222 in which group of good citizens around the US
> and in other countries pick up the All Stars franchise, or
> emulate it under a different name and do what they take to
> be good work in helping poor kids. What makes it relevant
> from a social movement point of view is this *proliferation*
> and emulation, with people freely associating themselves
> with the project by their own free will to join with its
> objective, rather than for reward. Apparently this process
> has been rolling on for 36 years.
>
> Generally speaking I think the question of whether this is
> or is not a social movement is a useless question; it is the
> dynamic of spreading from an isolated solution to a social
> problem, proliferating through others freely participating
> towards the project's object and eventually either dying out
> or becoming an institution which makes the "social movement"
> lens useful.
>
> Andy
>
>



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