[Xmca-l] Re: Publishers seek removal of millions of papers from ResearchGate

PERRET-CLERMONT Anne-Nelly Anne-Nelly.Perret-Clermont@unine.ch
Sun Oct 8 08:51:12 PDT 2017


Good to know!
Thanks Alfredo

Anne-Nelly
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Le 8 oct. 2017 à 15:28, Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no<mailto:a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>> a écrit :

Thanks Anne-Nelly,

I used the feature to change to English and it worked perfectly,

Alfredo
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Sorry the link in English is deficient .
Try this one and then change the language by replacing "FR" by "EN" on the
top/right of the screen:
http://www.snf.ch/fr/leFNS/points-de-vue-politique-de-recherche/open-access
/Pages/default.aspx


Anne-Nelly


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Anne-Nelly <anne-nelly.perret-clermont@unine.ch<mailto:anne-nelly.perret-clermont@unine.ch>>
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ResearchGate

Thanks for these very interesting links.

The new political line of the Swiss National Research Foundation (SNSF) on
these issues is very interesting:
"The results of research financed by public funds should be published
electronically so that they are freely and immediately available without
charge and can thus be reused by third parties, since they are considered
as a public good. In support of the principle of Open Access, the SNSF
expects grantees to make the results of the research projects it has
supported accessible to the public".
This will concern almost all scientists in Switzerland. See:

http://www.snf.ch/en/theSNSF/research-policies/open-access/Pages/default.as
px

Anne-Nelly


Prof. em. Anne-Nelly Perret-Clermont
Institut de psychologie et éducation Faculté des lettres et sciences
humaines
Université de Neuchâtel
Espace L. Agassiz 1,  CH- 2000 Neuchâtel (Switzerland)
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papers  from    ResearchGate

That's a complex matter, Peter. Thanks for sharing. I wonder what the
views of others are. I am still forming mine, but would like to contribute
with another resource to do so, an article from The Guardian on profitable
business scientific publishing

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/27/profitable-business-scienti
fic-publishing-bad-for-science

Alfredo
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ResearchGate

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/publishers-seek-removal-millions-
papers-researchgate



Publishers seek removal of millions of papers from ResearchGate

Academic social network accused of infringing copyright on a massive scale

Leading publishers are stepping up their fight against ResearchGate by
ordering the academic social network to take down papers that they say
infringe copyright.

The move could see millions of articles removed from the site, as the
publishers say up to 40 per cent of papers on ResearchGate are copyrighted.

James Milne, a spokesman for the group of five academic publishers, which
includes Elsevier, Wiley and Brill, said that the first batch of take-down
notices would be sent "imminently".



"We're not doing this in any way against the researchers, we're doing this
against ResearchGate," he told Times Higher Education. The site was
"clearly hosting and happily uploading material that they know they don't
have the license or copyrights" to, and was "refusing to work with us to
solve that problem", he added.



According to a survey of academics released last year, Berlin-based
ResearchGate is by some way the world's biggest academic social network,
used by about 60 per cent of academics, particularly in the physical and
life sciences, and has raised nearly $90 million (£68 million) in funding
from investors, according to the website Crunchbase.



Publishers are seeing "anecdotal" evidence that the availability of papers
on the site is eating into their revenues, said Dr Milne. "We have heard
during the subscriptions renewal process that librarians are occasionally
referencing ResearchGate as an alternative to resubscribing to journals,"
he said.



He attacked ResearchGate as being "backed by hundreds of millions of
dollars [from venture capitalists,] who are seeking to make a profit from
what [ResearchGate] do, which is upload copyright infringed material".



"They put nothing back into the process for generating and validating and
curating all that material," he said.



The publisher Elsevier drew a backlash from many academics in 2013 when it
told users of Academia.edu<http://Academia.edu>, a rival to ResearchGate, to take down papers
to which it had rights. Dr Milne stressed that this time, the publishers
would not directly send take-down notices to academics. "We will work with
ResearchGate on this, not researchers," he said, although the organisation
would be communicating "en masse" with academics about how they can share
their work properly.



But for the publishers, sending out mass take-down notices is not a
permanent solution. "That in itself doesn't solve the problem, because
every day ResearchGate is uploading more and more material," said Dr
Milne, trapping publishers in a "perpetual loop" of having to identify
infringing papers. He argued that this would be confusing for researchers,
as "one day there's content, and the next day there isn't", he said.



Elsevier and the American Chemical Society are therefore also taking
ResearchGate to court where they hope to obtain a ruling that would stop
ResearchGate "scraping content off the web, uploading it...and asking
researchers to claim it" so that infringing material "is not in the public
domain", he explained. The court claim would be lodged in Europe, he said.



A ResearchGate spokeswoman declined to comment. The company's founder and
chief executive, Ijad Madisch, has previously said that he "wouldn't mind"
if copyrighted material was removed from the site, as researchers could
continue to share papers privately.



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