[Xmca-l] Re: Eisenstein-Vygotsky-Luria

[Ulvi İçil]

It's a pleasure and a great one, especially when the three together.

26 May 2017 04:14 tarihinde "Alfredo Jornet Gil" <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
yazdı:

> Hi, yes Ulvi, thanks so much. As Mike points out the connection is not
> known at all and, to me, this link has meant the beginning of an inquiry
> for more of that, so thanks so much.
> A
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>
> Thank you very much for pointing out the existence of this article, Ulvi.
> It is great to see an archive-based account of this collaboration. The
> LSV-Eisenshtein connection has come up before and may be mysterious for
> people. This article provides a lot of background to why the collaboration.
>
> mike
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > https://marxismocritico.com/2014/09/26/eisenstein-
> vygotsky-lurias-project/
> >
> > I knew already from Autobiography the friendship between the three.
> >
> > It is really incredibly nice that they knew each other, they discussed,
> > they projected...
> >
> > It is really fantastic as if you bring them and make them live in the
> same
> > decades.
> >
> > It is also very interesting that Vygotsky was the one who tried to
> persuade
> > Eisenstein not to reject art.
> >
> > In such instances, I feel myself frozen in the face of such wonderful
> > facts.
> >
> > This occurs when I am face to face with intellectual, artistic,
> scientific
> > figures, human beings who, like revolutions, make live humanity such
> leaps
> > that can never occur in "normal" times.
> >
> > And moreover, it is such a pity that these giants, after their physical
> > disappearences, are handled by other people during years and years
> > sometimes so vulgarly and in such a mediocr manner that these giants are
> > made dwarfs consciously or unconsciously.
> >
> > One such case is about Nazim Hikmet and Lenin.
> >
> > Why people who are sincere followers of these giants are so incapable of
> > continuing on the same path consistently and in fidelity?
> >
> > Why they misinterpret and/or are complete incapable of interpreting them
> > creatively?
> >
> > It is understandable why some some insist not to see in Nazim Hikmet the
> > class determination, October Revolution, Lenin, Leninism and bolshevism,
> > anti imperialism and in Lenin determination for a socialist revolution
> but
> > why
> > some others are so few to see the original content in their work in
> > fidelity?
> >
> > This is what is condemning humanity's thinking to a regression.
> >
> > I think that Nazim Hikmet and Lenin are so badly read universally and
> > another  instance is that in one of our communications Bella told me that
> > people restrict themselves to mention only to people of the last 15 years
> > but do not extend until examples like Luria.
> >
> > I firmly believe the essential, fundamental reason in all of them  is the
> > following: that the mechanisms of capitalism do not allow or restrain
> > people to think in a revolutionary way, in poetry, in neuropsychology, in
> > cinema, in art theory and in politics.
> >
> > Because I believe that great leaps come with great social revolutions.
> > Then, after the waters calm down, people move on more ordinary paths.
> >
> > "In later recalling his plans to work with Vygotsky, Eisenstein wrote
> > that he had had a strong affection for “this wonderful man with the
> > strangely
> > cropped hair. It seemed to have grown out permanently, as after typhus or
> > another illness when the head is shaved. Gazing out at the world from
> under
> > this strange array of hair were the eyes, clear and transparent as the
> sky,
> > of
> > one of the most brilliant psychologists of our time” (The Grundproblem,
> > note 1)
> >
> >
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