[Xmca-l] Re: Don't do it

[Tom Richardson]

Hi xmca-ers
Looks to me like Ulci is on to a hiding to nowhere with his conviction that
socialist revolution is a necessity.
Strange to imply that *all *revolutions will *inevitably *result in
social-human conditions worse that the overthrown ones, when the quoted
French overturning of society was a bourgeois revolution.
IMO Ulci adduces evidence that Turkish social conditions are at present
intolerable.
A literate debate about speech acts seems a strange displacement of her/his
original anguished cry for changes that result in greater justice for
oppressed populations.
But then I believe that the current capitalist anarchy is unconditionally
intolerable.
[No strawpersons please - Stalinism was an brutally disastrously
dysfunctional anti-social formation.]

Cordialement
Tom Richardson
Middlesbrough UK

On 8 March 2017 at 21:32, Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> wrote:

> If I say
>
> don't do it, it is imperative.
>
> But if I say,
>
> It is not realistic and you do not need it.
>
> It is affirmative and even  though negative, it is again affirmative, to
> demobilize you.
>
> What I mean is Revolution.
>
> Addressed to a married couple with two children.
>
> With 3 thousand Turkish liras in Istanbul in a  rented home of at least
> 1000 tl for rent.
>
> 1 usd = 4 Turkish liras
>
> Survival economics.
>
> Any prospect?
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> No.
>
> That simple.
>
> What is socialist revolution?
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> It is neither an intention nor a wish.
>
> It is simple necessity.
>