[Xmca-l] Perezhivanie of perezhivanie

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Mon Dec 18 16:13:50 PST 2017


A question for Michael and David concerning consciousness as perezhivanie
of
perezhivanie ---

I think that in one of the prior discussions of perezhivanie on xmca I gave
the following example of my early encounter with the term, and want to
introduce it again to get some clarity about the current discussion of
Michael's article.

Back when Russian rockets were heading to Cuba I used to commute from
(Lenin, nee Sparrow Hills) to the main campus of MGU, I would take a bus in
cold
weather to avoid a long walk from the Metro. The bus was so crowded that at
its second stop outside the downtown MGU campus, you would be lucky to be
able to cram into the bus and it only got worse until nearing the campus.

I seem to remember that if asked about the bus ride, I would either say
that it was a kashmar (the French got to Moscow at an earlier date) or that
I "perezhil" (past tense) the 111 bus. And as I said it, I would re-live,
so to speak, my having lived through that intense, often unpleasant,
experience. I think it would be grammatical and sensible to describe my
recounting and re-membering that "experience" as perezhivanie of
perzhivanie.

Perhaps this is an inappropriate example. I was not using the term as part
of a set of theoretical terms (Vasilyuk had not written his book on
perezhivanie and I do not recall being present for a discussion, either of
why Leontiev was right and Vygotsky wrong (or vice versa) about
perezhivanie. And I hope I was paying attention and conscious of what I was
doing both times I used the term.

Perhaps in the early Vygotsky where the perezhivanie of perezhivanie
comment appears he was using the term, perezhivanie in an everyday sense of
the term, but later it was used as a scientific term?

David -- where does LSV write that consciousness begins at birth? Seems
important to know.

Thanks for the interesting discussion.

mike








For those like myself who never got past intro chemistry or physics, but
are interested in qualitative research,
this site might be of interest. I notice there is a blog on the topic as
well as a relevant resource page. Perfect prep for reading Martin's book!
:-)

mike
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