[Xmca-l] Re: Imagination;semiotic mediation

Mon Mar 28 10:11:58 PDT 2016

The Eisenshtein material I sent was from the section of the first chapter
of the book that I had students read in class. It has informed my thought
about the word/image problem. There are lots of fascinating ideas in his
work, including the link between Chines ideograms and the principle of
montage.

I am sure more is available elsewhere, that is what I had to hand.
mike

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Mike,
> I believe the final scene of Eisenshtein is missing.
> (or at least the last few pages seem to be missing - perhaps intentionally
> so?).
> -greg
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Ed Wall <ewall@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> > David
> >
> >       Very insightful. At least,that is my perspective.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > > On Mar 27, 2016, at  3:41 PM, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg:
> > >
> > > We are taught to think that Trump is boorish and uncultured and from
> the
> > > wrong side of the Hudson because of his hair-trigger reactions. How is
> it
> > > possible to teach us to do this--WITHOUT noticing that this very
> teaching
> > > reliably informs us that the whole playground game started with a taunt
> > > from Senator Rubio? (It was, actually, a very well aimed taunt,
> designed
> > to
> > > bring out the ease with which this potential president can be jerked
> > > around, one that suggests strategic knowledge of Trump's greatest
> > > weaknesses; it was not, as Rubio himself claimed, something he just
> > > stumbled into by accident in the desperate flailing of his dying
> > campaign).
> > >
> > > We are taught to think that this is all highly regrettable. How is it
> > > possible to teach us to do this--WITHOUT noticing that the very people
> > > teaching this are the ones who created this carnival atmosphere where
> > > serious discussions are impossible--mostly these hard, unfunny 24-7
> > comedy
> > > shows which are always so hard up for their hard, unfunny material,
> > > relying, again and again, on the puerile devices of profanity and
> > > industrial quantities of canned laughter? How not to notice that people
> > who
> > > most "shocked, shocked!" are precisely the people who have littered
> > > politics with what are essentially unserious, unsocial, non-political
> > > lifestyle issues? (Not just the comedy shows. which have been the death
> > of
> > > comedy as well as the death of politics, but the Evangelical
> Christians,
> > > and above all the 24-7 news people who have to talk about politics all
> > day
> > > and all night without ever really talking class or social issues of any
> > > kind.)
> > >
> > > Here's what I notice. We notice Trump's boorishness and not Rubio's
> just
> > > because Trump is bigger than Rubio (I am not referring to their male
> > > endowments). We notice vulgarity in others but not in ourselves because
> > > when I do it on national television and you laugh at it in the privacy
> of
> > > your own home, it's just not so "in your face" for either of us.
> > >
> > > I notice that white working people have been successfully taught to ask
> > > that if Trump's so dumb, how come he's rich? I notice that the simple
> job
> > > of the media is to demonstrate that although he is rich, he is actually
> > > rather insecure, thin-skinned, infantile, and his chain is easily
> jerked.
> > > This shouldn't be that difficult, and it's only mildly subversive of
> > class
> > > politics in the USA, since there is only the slightest suggestion that
> > some
> > > people who are rich are actually not particularly mature, trustworthy,
> > > or deserving of life-and-death powers over you and your children.
> > >
> > > But then in order to do this very simple task, the media now argue that
> > > although he's rich, and although he's from the East Coast, he's from
> the
> > > wrong side of the river, and his playground demeanour shows it. In
> other
> > > words, although he's rich, he's really poor.
> > >
> > > No wonder Trump is so popular!
> > >
> > > David Kellogg
> > > Macquarie University
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:39 AM, Greg Thompson <
> > greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Should we say anything about the fact that nobody has mentioned the
> > "hand
> > >> envy" moment of one of the recent Republican debates (the one where
> > >> politics was raised to new lows)?
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.businessinsider.com/new-yorker-cover-about-trumps-hand-size-2016-3
> > >> (you should really check out the original debate - really amazing
> stuff)
> > >>
> > >> Nor has anyone said anything about the hailing hand gesture done at
> some
> > >> Trump rallies (note: this is a Trump-supporting page, but no, I'm not
> a
> > >> Trump supporter, it had the least ads of any of the descriptions I
> could
> > >> find):
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/08/trump_controvery_over_trump_pledge_salute.html
> > >>
> > >> Did everyone just assume that this is common knowledge? Or did people
> > not
> > >> know about these hand-y origins?
> > >> And if you didn't know about this, does knowing this deepen the
> meaning
> > of
> > >> the image?
> > >>
> > >> and a recent Daily show segment where Black Trump responds to the New
> > >> Yorker cover:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-daily-shows-black-trump-reenacts-the-donalds-crazy-rant-about-his-hands/
> > >>
> > >> -greg
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW:
> > >>>
> > >>> Eugenics has the Greek etymology of eu- meaning "good" or "well," and
> > >>> genos, meaning "race," "stock," "kin," that is... "well-born".
> > >>>
> > >>> This may relate to the short fingers, which also makes a reference to
> > >>> mating, and also possibly, just possibly sterilization.
> > >>>
> > >>> The image becomes cleverer every second!
> > >>>
> > >>> :)
> > >>>
> > >>> Kind regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Annalisa
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > >> Assistant Professor
> > >> Department of Anthropology
> > >> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > >> Brigham Young University
> > >> Provo, UT 84602
> > >> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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