[Xmca-l] Re: Imagination;semiotic mediation

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Mon Mar 28 09:16:05 PDT 2016


Michael! Cops having been shooting black kids.
And it is just the question of who the stop sign is directed toward which
seems critical to the meaning of the image as I interpret it.

I has benevolent street crossing with parental and community support on one
side, but then it has the police on the other. So the meaning vascilates
between YOU (the viewer) stop (as if you were the driver of the car seeing
the sign) and YOU the guy who knows that from the point of view of those
kids and the woman protecting them with her back to the police, its the
COPS who have to stop doing what they have been doing.

Again, multiple meanings layered into the image where they fuse into "*my*
sense of *the* meaning."

For those interested in this thread, I attache Eisenshtein's article on
word and image. The comments in the prologue
are interesting too.

mike

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 4:59 AM, Glassman, Michael <glassman.13@osu.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Rod,
>
> Yes, it has stop on both sides.  I wound up reading the short blurb first
> and the e-mails and along wih Mike I thought about protecting children from
> the police, but then of the cruelty of the Chicago school closings and the
> long and dangerous walk to school overseen by the denizens of the tyrant
> who demanded this.
>
> But I remember reading an article many years ago, an interview of John
> Lennon.  He was being asked what inspired some of the great Beatles songs.
> I remember being so disappointed, it was just stuff that happened in his
> everyday life.
>
> John Fogarty of CCR also did an interview recently about the song Looking
> at my backdoor which everybody always assumed was about LSD.  He said nah,
> it was just stories he was telling his young son to get him to eat.
> Sometimes I wonder if Moby Dick was jus a story about a big fish.
>
> MIchael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Rod Parker-Rees
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:02 AM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Imagination;semiotic mediation
>
> I was puzzled by the stop sign facing out but that may be my lack of
> understanding of stop signs used by crossing guards in the US. Does it have
> STOP on both sides?
>
> Rod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole
> Sent: 28 March 2016 03:46
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Imagination;semiotic mediation
>
> Hi Analissa
>
> And how does the meaning of Stop change in the course of your noticing.
> For me the crossing guard scenario initially dominated and then was
> replaced by stop the cops from running over and killing the kids scenario
> took over, as I Black lives matter.
> Mike
>
> On Sunday, March 27, 2016, Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu> wrote:
>
> > WRT the stop sign cover,
> > http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/cover-story-2016-03-14
> > the order that I am looking across the composition is as follows:
> >
> > First, the stop sign.
> > Second, the cross-guard (a black woman dressed in visible yellow)
> > Third, three young black children crossing the street.
> > Fourth, a white officer in the passenger seat of the police SUV.
> > Fifth, stop sign again.
> > Sixth, another white officer in the driver seat of the police SUV. (I
> > notice both officers are looking out, away from the stop sign)
> > Seventh, how the cross-guard is looking down at the third child and
> > the third child is looking up at her.
> > Eighth, everyone is dressed for winter while walking to school. It's
> > cold outside.
> > Ninth, it is an urban setting.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Annalisa
> >
>
>
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