[Xmca-l] Re: Zukerman resumed

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Thu Dec 15 12:05:37 PST 2016


Those are all relevant questions, Larry. I have forwarded your msg to
Galina in hopes that she will have time to respond for herself.

It seems relevant, as you suggest, to send along Gordon's paper. The issue
of the complementarity/relationship of Vygotsky & Halliday is a clear
thread in this discourse and a preoccupation with some of us.
Fine tapestry to be sewn there. :-)
mike



On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:28 AM, <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> The notion of intermental processes as occurring between persons
> actualizes an ongoing focus on what occurs between persons, and seems to
> put in question the priority of internalized mastery of one’s own
> interiorized mental activity. Am i misreading this emphasis in the article.
>
> Is this understanding of (intermental) that prioritizes dialogical
> activity with the other a different focus than the emphasis that Gordon
> Wells puts on the dual aspects of the language system as BOTH
> *a mediation of social activity by enabling participants to plan and
> coordinate and review their actions through EXTERNAL speech
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> AND in addition language as
> *a medium in which those  above activities are SYMBOLICALLY REPRESENTED,
> providing the psychological sign/tool that mediates the associated ideal
> mental activities in the internal discourse of inner speech.
>
> This shift or crossing over from priority given to the actual physical
> discourse using language (the tool of tools -metatool) to priority given to
> the SYMBOLICALLY represented realm seems to be a key or hinge moment within
> the dual nature of language as both external and interior.
>
> Reading the Zukerman article and the focus on the (intermental) all the
> way down seems to put a different slant or incline to what Gordon Wells is
> exploring.
> My turn is up, but i could reference examples from the Zukerman article on
> the priority of the (intermental)
>
> For those interested i could send another article by Gordon Wells (The
> complimentary contributions of Halliday and Vygotsky to a Language Based
> Theory of Learning, 1994)
> Loose threads being picked up
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> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
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