[Xmca-l] Re: The manologue

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Fri Apr 22 11:11:58 PDT 2016


I wonder what others think, Larry?
mike

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Lplarry <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
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> I will offer a brief personal sense of experiencing ambivalence as I sense
> my way within the etiquette of xmca.
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> I wonder about the **place** of personal dis/closure (1st person) as a
> way of proceeding.
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> I sense being pulled (grasped) to turn towards legitimizing the systemic
> approach ( eco-systemic) and away from the symbolic (mother earth) feminine
> figure (as) ground. The archetype of **anima** is a different figuring
> gestalt from the archetype of **animus**. The anima as **folk lore**
> while the eco-systemic (dynamic systems) approach is preferred. Relegating
> the truth og mother-earth symbols to feminine folk wisdom moved to the
> margins (of) literature.
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> How we collaborate and communicate as  symbolic **marriage** inclusive of
> differing (forms) gestalts of figuring phenomena.
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> The insight that the personal is political.
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> But also  re-cognizing eggshells underfoot.
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> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
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> *From: *mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu>
> *Sent: *April 22, 2016 9:33 AM
> *To: *eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] Re: The manologue
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> Thanks Annalisa for bringing back
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> ​I​
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> he issue of XMCA as manilogue.
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> It brought back memory of Eva Ekblad, who gave up on academia and was a
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> weaver last I heard, and news of Phillip's memory of humping elephants.  It
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> is all in the archives. 30 years of tangled threads of discourse, data for
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> the picking.
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> ​Those interested in Eva's discussion, and other views of MCA at different
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> times in its history, can find the relevant material at ​
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> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/archives
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> I am not so sure discussing the communicative behaviors of fellow members
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> is a hot idea given the ways such discussions tend to reduce to
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> identifiable individuals whose behavior is subjected to moral evaluation.
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> ​In any event at the sole continuously active participant except for Bruce
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> Jones (is that true?)
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> male, white, and elderly I am disabled in such a discussion. No efforts of
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> mine have been sufficient in this regard. As a first responder, I take
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> comfort in the fact that the worst Phillip can remember is an "almost
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> flaming" event. I hope we can keep it that way. If people can figure out to
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> make this discussion more inclusive, there is no "one" stopping you. It
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> would certainly be a welcome outcome.
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> I note in closing how many women have joined any of this discussion.​
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> ​mike​
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> On Thursday, April 21, 2016, White, Phillip <Phillip.White@ucdenver.edu>
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> wrote:
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> > Annalisa, this is a topic that has circled around several times here on
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> > xmca - and i'm pleased to see it appear again.
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> > i've been a member of xmca for perhaps just over twenty years  -  and the
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> > first time that i remember the topic appeared was when a woman
> participant
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> > on the list described the men's activity of participation as, if i
> remember
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> > correctly, bull elephants mounting each other.
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> > that provoked a huge uproar, close to flaming one another.
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> > and Eva Ekeblad who lives in Sweden(i may have misspelled her last name)
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> > and a fellow from Boston did an analysis of female and male participation
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> > on xmca, and, again, if i remember correctly, pointed out that men wrote
> by
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> > far the most postings, as well as the longest and most immediate
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> > responses.  so that men dominated the list-serve with the swiftest,
> longest
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> > postings, along with the greatest number.  and it seemed to that the men
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> > who wrote the most postings also wrote more to each other, ignoring the
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> > more peripheral  participants.
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> > i have my own ideas regarding why a few men regularly dominate xmca
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> > through multiple, long postings.
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> > i don't know if the list serve is up to analyzing our own behaviour.  or
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> > even if the topic is actually worth analysing.
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> > phillip
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