[Xmca-l] Re: Congratulations Men

[Huw Lloyd]

And who was it that said that the child is the father of the man -- maybe I
read that from Ilyenkov?

Huw



On 9 November 2015 at 02:18, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:

> Erm, the chimera performing a sanctifying act, I meant to say.  V. nice.
>
> Huw
>
> On 9 November 2015 at 02:16, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This one?
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelus_Novus
>>
>> I felt it was from Klee immediately, seeing a lion and phoenix chimera.
>> A good emblem for sure.  But, by the way, I was thinking predominantly
>> one's own childhood as the idea with a bridge to the children now.  So, for
>> the universally minded it is so.
>>
>> Huw
>>
>>
>> On 9 November 2015 at 01:53, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I was thinking about a children's day, too, Huw.
>>>
>>> When I was a kid, Nov. 11th was Armistice Day. Then it became Memorial
>>> Day,
>>> now it is Veterans day. Benjamin's picture of the Angel of History "to a
>>> T"
>>> as we
>>> blokes say.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> PS- All is not gloom vis a vis Nov. 11th. It is the day I met my wife!
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > And, if I recall correctly, a sense of specialness of the day in
>>> > conjunction with a community-wide collective activity (cleaning the
>>> rooms,
>>> > including moving heavy furniture to do so).
>>> >
>>> > Huw
>>> >
>>> > On 9 November 2015 at 01:21, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > IN his book on teaching deaf/blind kids, A. Meshcheryakov says they
>>> used
>>> > > teh celebration of national holidays as a way of imparting a sense of
>>> > time.
>>> > > Andy
>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > *Andy Blunden*
>>> > > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>> > > On 9/11/2015 12:17 PM, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> I don't know.  The best thing that I can think of that is consonant
>>> with
>>> > >> the media of 'a day' is the recognition of the cultural notion of
>>> time.
>>> > >>  Putting it in that context, is does seem the case that some of
>>> > >> long-standing holy-days do implicate certain constants (relative to
>>> our
>>> > >> cultures and their histories), e.g. the equinoctes.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Generally I have an aversion to such artifices as celebratory days,
>>> but
>>> > I
>>> > >> think I might participate in something like a children's day,
>>> thereby
>>> > >> encouraging some reflection on at least a generational timescale in
>>> > >> contrast to the 24hour/5year media-politicking.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Best,
>>> > >> Huw
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 9 November 2015 at 00:55, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
>>> <mailto:
>>> > >> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>     I think the point is that holidays have *always* been
>>> > >>     fixed to reinforce the normative order. The only
>>> > >>     exception I know is May Day, which is not a holiday
>>> > >>     here in Oz.
>>> > >>     Andy
>>> > >>     ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >>     *Andy Blunden*
>>> > >>     http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>> > >>     <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>     On 9/11/2015 11:51 AM, mike cole wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>         Dear Colleagues -Here is the latest word on
>>> > >>         International Mens day and its
>>> > >>         presence in the United States thanks to a hint
>>> > >>         about checking Wikipedia:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>         Is it just me, or does anyone out there think that
>>> > >>         some thought should be
>>> > >>         giving to gender neutral holidays instead of the
>>> > >>         normative order? For
>>> > >>         example, how about a Parents Day and a
>>> > >>         Grandparents day. With time off and
>>> > >>         a little family time, whatever that family might be.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>         mike
>>> > >>
>>> > >>         On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Hans Knutagård
>>> > >>         <hans.knutagard@ingressus.se
>>> > >>         <mailto:hans.knutagard@ingressus.se>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>             wrote:
>>> > >>             In Sweden we celebrate Fathers day evry year
>>> > >>             the Sunday in November
>>> > >>             between the 8 and 14. It started 1931 as a
>>> > >>             respons to Mother's day in May
>>> > >>             (in Sweden).
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                 8 nov. 2015 kl. 20:58 skrev Rauno Huttunen
>>> > >>                 <rakahu@utu.fi <mailto:rakahu@utu.fi>>:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                 Hello,
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                 In Finland it is Father's Day.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                 Rauno Huttunen
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                 Lähetetty iPadista
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                     mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu
>>> > >>                     <mailto:mcole@ucsd.edu>> kirjoitti
>>> > >>                     8.11.2015 kello 21.37:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                     I have learned from my Russian
>>> > >>                     colleagues that today is the
>>> > >>
>>> > >>             International
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                     Day honoring Men, which I am told is
>>> > >>                     celebrated in 70 countries
>>> > >>
>>> > >>             including
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                     the US (Wikipedia so testifies). But I
>>> > >>                     have never heard of it! Just me,
>>> > >>
>>> > >>             or
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                     is this
>>> > >>                     not a generally recognized holiday in
>>> > >>                     the U.S.?
>>> > >>                     mike
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                     --
>>> > >>
>>> > >>                     It is the dilemma of psychology to
>>> > >>                     deal as a natural science with an
>>> > >>                     object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
>>> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
>>>
>>
>>
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