[Xmca-l] Re: Congratulations Men

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Sun Nov 8 17:53:31 PST 2015


I was thinking about a children's day, too, Huw.

When I was a kid, Nov. 11th was Armistice Day. Then it became Memorial Day,
now it is Veterans day. Benjamin's picture of the Angel of History "to a T"
as we
blokes say.

Mike
PS- All is not gloom vis a vis Nov. 11th. It is the day I met my wife!  :-)

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:

> And, if I recall correctly, a sense of specialness of the day in
> conjunction with a community-wide collective activity (cleaning the rooms,
> including moving heavy furniture to do so).
>
> Huw
>
> On 9 November 2015 at 01:21, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
> > IN his book on teaching deaf/blind kids, A. Meshcheryakov says they used
> > teh celebration of national holidays as a way of imparting a sense of
> time.
> > Andy
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > *Andy Blunden*
> > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> > On 9/11/2015 12:17 PM, Huw Lloyd wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know.  The best thing that I can think of that is consonant with
> >> the media of 'a day' is the recognition of the cultural notion of time.
> >>  Putting it in that context, is does seem the case that some of
> >> long-standing holy-days do implicate certain constants (relative to our
> >> cultures and their histories), e.g. the equinoctes.
> >>
> >> Generally I have an aversion to such artifices as celebratory days, but
> I
> >> think I might participate in something like a children's day, thereby
> >> encouraging some reflection on at least a generational timescale in
> >> contrast to the 24hour/5year media-politicking.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Huw
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9 November 2015 at 00:55, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:
> >> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     I think the point is that holidays have *always* been
> >>     fixed to reinforce the normative order. The only
> >>     exception I know is May Day, which is not a holiday
> >>     here in Oz.
> >>     Andy
> >>     ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>     *Andy Blunden*
> >>     http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> >>     <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> >>
> >>     On 9/11/2015 11:51 AM, mike cole wrote:
> >>
> >>         Dear Colleagues -Here is the latest word on
> >>         International Mens day and its
> >>         presence in the United States thanks to a hint
> >>         about checking Wikipedia:
> >>
> >>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day.
> >>
> >>         Is it just me, or does anyone out there think that
> >>         some thought should be
> >>         giving to gender neutral holidays instead of the
> >>         normative order? For
> >>         example, how about a Parents Day and a
> >>         Grandparents day. With time off and
> >>         a little family time, whatever that family might be.
> >>
> >>         mike
> >>
> >>         On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Hans Knutagård
> >>         <hans.knutagard@ingressus.se
> >>         <mailto:hans.knutagard@ingressus.se>
> >>
> >>             wrote:
> >>             In Sweden we celebrate Fathers day evry year
> >>             the Sunday in November
> >>             between the 8 and 14. It started 1931 as a
> >>             respons to Mother's day in May
> >>             (in Sweden).
> >>
> >>                 8 nov. 2015 kl. 20:58 skrev Rauno Huttunen
> >>                 <rakahu@utu.fi <mailto:rakahu@utu.fi>>:
> >>
> >>                 Hello,
> >>
> >>                 In Finland it is Father's Day.
> >>
> >>                 Rauno Huttunen
> >>
> >>                 Lähetetty iPadista
> >>
> >>                     mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu
> >>                     <mailto:mcole@ucsd.edu>> kirjoitti
> >>                     8.11.2015 kello 21.37:
> >>
> >>                     I have learned from my Russian
> >>                     colleagues that today is the
> >>
> >>             International
> >>
> >>                     Day honoring Men, which I am told is
> >>                     celebrated in 70 countries
> >>
> >>             including
> >>
> >>                     the US (Wikipedia so testifies). But I
> >>                     have never heard of it! Just me,
> >>
> >>             or
> >>
> >>                     is this
> >>                     not a generally recognized holiday in
> >>                     the U.S.?
> >>                     mike
> >>
> >>                     --
> >>
> >>                     It is the dilemma of psychology to
> >>                     deal as a natural science with an
> >>                     object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>



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It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
object that creates history. Ernst Boesch


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