[Xmca-l] Re: Teaching in social context

[mike cole]

Darn good thing it rhymes, Henry, 'cause it doesn't have a whole lot of
reason!

mike

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:59 PM, HENRY SHONERD <hshonerd@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also:
> History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
> Mark Twain
>
> > On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
> pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:
> >
> > history repeats itself, the first as tragedy, then as farce...Karl marx
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
> > President
> > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc.
> > www.mocombeian.com
> > www.readingroomcurriculum.com
> > www.paulcmocombe.info
> >
> > <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Glassman,
> Michael" <glassman.13@osu.edu> </div><div>Date:03/17/2015  3:29 PM
> (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <
> xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu> </div><div>Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Teaching in
> social context </div><div>
> > </div>I think the difference is that this time there is much more push
> back against this type of thing.  Those with control of the megaphone are
> bringing back the same old hits, but perhaps people aren't buying in to
> them that much.  The student and parent revolt against standardized
> testing.  The #Blacklivesmatter.  The mayoral election in Chicago.
> >
> > We certainly do live in interesting times.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Thompson
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:23 PM
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Teaching in social context
> >
> > @mike - sadness.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:13 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Sure looks and feels like the late 1960's, culture of poverty deja
> >> vu-ing all over again.
> >> Goes right along with re-segregation of our schools, overt violence
> >> against people of color, and biological "explanations" that threaten
> >> to become self-fulfilling prophecies.
> >> mike
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Greg Thompson
> >> <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> but Mike (other Greg here), I think Paul was particularly picking up
> >>> on
> >> the
> >>> fact that this was part of a "district wide mock test".
> >>>
> >>> I thought that this kind of cultural and socioeconomic bias in
> >>> testing
> >> had
> >>> been chopped at the roots by the myriad of critiques of this sort of
> >> thing
> >>> back in the 80's and 90's? I would have at least thought that the
> >> problems
> >>> with a passage like this would be obvious to test-makers today. Or
> >>> has
> >> that
> >>> all been forgotten?
> >>>
> >>> More evidence that we are back to the beginning?
> >>>
> >>> [and btw, I'm perhaps even more baffled by how this got integrated
> >>> into a 3rd grade test. Seems a bit beyond what my kids could have
> >>> handled in 3rd grade.]
> >>>
> >>> -greg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Greg--- Not to mention people being caught in the rude.
> >>>>
> >>>> Seems like the grumpy quality of the narrative is being picked up
> >>>> on,
> >> but
> >>>> hard to tell.
> >>>>
> >>>> *The Secret Garden* is antiquarian by American standards, having
> >> appeared
> >>>> in the latter part of the 1900's. I note there is a modern TV
> >>>> series
> >>> about
> >>>> it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul - Would it be permissible to incorporate some of the TV, so
> >>>> the
> >> kids
> >>>> get a richer interpretive object and mix it with reading?
> >>>>
> >>>> mike
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Greg Mcverry
> >>>> <jgregmcverry@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> A hoe, a gardener named weatherstaff  and a mistress, Oh how
> >>>>> meaning
> >>>> could
> >>>>> be misconstrued. And I am not even considering the mansion which
> >>>>> few
> >> of
> >>>>> your wife's students have any real cultural reference point.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:54 PM Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
> >>>>> pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> My wife teaches 3rd grade at an inner-city school.  Today the
> >>> students
> >>>>>> were tested on a district-wide mock test and they came across
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>> attached
> >>>>>> passage.  Half the class came up to her, and said that they
> >>>>>> can not
> >>>> read
> >>>>>> the passage bcuz they are cursing in it...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
> >>>>>> President
> >>>>>> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc.
> >>>>>> www.mocombeian.com
> >>>>>> www.readingroomcurriculum.com
> >>>>>> www.paulcmocombe.info
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with
> >>>> an
> >>> object
> >>>> that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> >>> Assistant Professor
> >>> Department of Anthropology
> >>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> >>> Brigham Young University
> >>> Provo, UT 84602
> >>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> >> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Anthropology
> > 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > Brigham Young University
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> >
>
>
>


-- 
It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
that creates history. Ernst Boesch.