[Xmca-l] Re: Teaching in social context

[mike cole]

Sure looks and feels like the late 1960's, culture of poverty deja vu-ing
all over again.
Goes right along with re-segregation of our schools, overt violence against
people of color, and biological "explanations" that threaten to become
self-fulfilling prophecies.
mike

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> but Mike (other Greg here), I think Paul was particularly picking up on the
> fact that this was part of a "district wide mock test".
>
> I thought that this kind of cultural and socioeconomic bias in testing had
> been chopped at the roots by the myriad of critiques of this sort of thing
> back in the 80's and 90's? I would have at least thought that the problems
> with a passage like this would be obvious to test-makers today. Or has that
> all been forgotten?
>
> More evidence that we are back to the beginning?
>
> [and btw, I'm perhaps even more baffled by how this got integrated into a
> 3rd grade test. Seems a bit beyond what my kids could have handled in 3rd
> grade.]
>
> -greg
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > Greg--- Not to mention people being caught in the rude.
> >
> > Seems like the grumpy quality of the narrative is being picked up on, but
> > hard to tell.
> >
> > *The Secret Garden* is antiquarian by American standards, having appeared
> > in the latter part of the 1900's. I note there is a modern TV series
> about
> > it.
> >
> > Paul - Would it be permissible to incorporate some of the TV, so the kids
> > get a richer interpretive object and mix it with reading?
> >
> > mike
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Greg Mcverry <jgregmcverry@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > A hoe, a gardener named weatherstaff  and a mistress, Oh how meaning
> > could
> > > be misconstrued. And I am not even considering the mansion which few of
> > > your wife's students have any real cultural reference point.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:54 PM Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
> > > pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My wife teaches 3rd grade at an inner-city school.  Today the
> students
> > > > were tested on a district-wide mock test and they came across the
> > > attached
> > > > passage.  Half the class came up to her, and said that they can not
> > read
> > > > the passage bcuz they are cursing in it...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
> > > > President
> > > > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc.
> > > > www.mocombeian.com
> > > > www.readingroomcurriculum.com
> > > > www.paulcmocombe.info
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> object
> > that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>



-- 
It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
that creates history. Ernst Boesch.