[Xmca-l] Re: XMCA home page?

Andy Blunden ablunden@mira.net
Sat Mar 7 18:11:51 PST 2015


Well, CHAT is a very broad church. A kind of x-xmca home page. But yes, 
let's say a CHAT home page.
And I agree: "a good CHAT 'homepage' should be something much more 
dynamic involving community based 'gardening'."
Andy
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*Andy Blunden*
http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/


Huw Lloyd wrote:
> Do you mean an XMCA homepage or a CHAT homepage?
>
> XMCA seems fine as a static entity, but a good CHAT 'homepage' should 
> be something much more dynamic involving community based 'gardening'.
>
> The wiki does support fairly rich structures (consult the system help 
> files), and a homepage on it could conceivably lead folk into 
> discovering the modestly exciting power of a wiki to organise ideas 
> and collective efforts.
>
> Huw
>
>
> On 7 March 2015 at 00:27, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net 
> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>
>     The whole idea of the blogs, etc., is that it would NOT be hosted
>     at UCSD.
>     If it is hosted at UCSD everything has to be done via a technician
>     employed by UCSD who is not a participant in XMCA, or, is limited
>     in its flexibility. Possibly there *are* software packages which
>     could be installed on a UCSD server which could allow fairly free
>     and easy use by xmca participants. But it has not happened so far.
>     Perhaps the Wiki could be adapted to this purpose (i.e. to create
>     a "home page" for xmca)?
>     I'd like to hear Huw's view on this.
>     Andy
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *Andy Blunden*
>     http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>     <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>
>
>     mike cole wrote:
>
>         Thanks for the thoughts, Andy. I am not sure what it means to
>         leave it where it is AND have a blog (hosted at UCSD?). And
>         not sure how fees would be collected or who would agree, etc.
>         How about you organize a committee of willing volunteers,
>         include me as ex officio, and then come back to the list with
>         a proposal?
>
>         mike
>
>
>
>         On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Andy Blunden
>         <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>> wrote:
>
>             Would be goods to see the rest of your message, Renee.
>             Mike, here's what I think.
>             Leave xmca where it is. If some future leader of LCHC wants to
>             delete it, that will have to be handled at the time.
>             To develop the xmca community, I suggest you take up an
>         offer you
>             have had for a website on a non-university server and a
>         technical
>             manager who can just issue server permissions or
>         something. Such a
>             role which would be inherited by whoever took over the
>             responsibility for the server in the future. Fees would be
>         modest
>             in this instance and easily raised through this list.
>             All xmca participants would be offered a blog on this site.
>             blogging is something which is verging on being a skill which
>             everyone should have, and it is very flexible.
>             If half a dozen xmca participants could operate blogs then
>         we'd
>             have something.
>             Nominate an xmca-er - someone like Huw, to manage the
>         coordination
>             of the pages, for example, an index of blogs, news, link
>         to xmca
>             archives, etc. - a minimal front page.
>             That's my view.
>             Andy
>            
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>             *Andy Blunden*
>             http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>         <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>             <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>
>
>             UCB wrote:
>
>                 I'm
>                 Sent from my iPhone
>
>                  
>                     On Mar 5, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Andy Blunden
>                     <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>> wrote:
>
>                     The compensation that our times gives for having
>         melted
>                     everything into air is that Google can always find it,
>                     even if it is scattered to the four winds ... provided
>                     only that you know what you're looking for.
>                     Andy
>                    
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>                     *Andy Blunden*
>                     http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>         <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                     <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>
>
>                     mike cole wrote:
>                        
>                         Right, Andy.
>
>                         LCHC has been a major source of support for MCA
>                         because it started here. but it is an
>         international
>                         journal, and whether it remains anchored at
>         UCSD. The
>                         xmca discussion
>                         could or could not go on in any form imaginable.
>                         Whether or not there is sufficient interest and
>                         willingness of people to collaborate in such
>         an effort
>                         is an open question. Like the future always is.
>
>                         As Alexander Luria wrote an eon ago in the last
>                         paragraph of his autobiography:
>
>                         "People come and go, but the creative sources
>         of great
>                         historical events and important ideas and deeds
>                         remain." Its an optimistic view, but seems
>         appropriate
>                         to the circumstances.
>                         mike
>
>                         On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andy Blunden
>                         <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
>                         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>>
>                         wrote:
>
>                            It's basically a judgment about longevity,
>         I think.
>                            Universities last forever, but sometimes
>         the people
>                         who come after
>                            don't see the point of preserving old
>         archives.                 (That's really
>                            true!).
>                            Volunteer sites, where active participants
>         control
>                         the webpages
>                            last as long as the collective. How long
>         will xmca
>                         live on after us?
>
>                            Andy
>                                          
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>                            *Andy Blunden*
>                            http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>         <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                         <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                            <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>
>
>                            mike cole wrote:
>
>                                Any reason why xmca has to be located
>         at LCHC? mike
>
>                                On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Andy
>         Blunden
>                                <ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
>                         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
>                                <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>                         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>                         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>>> wrote:
>
>                                    A web page without an interested
>         and active
>                         webmaster looking
>                                    after and updating will always be a
>         fossil.
>                                    A volunteer to maintain the UCSD
>         webpages
>                         has to be a part
>                                of the
>                                    CHAT discussion AND an employee of UCSD
>                         with permissions
>                                on the
>                                    server.
>                                    Andy
>                                                        
>          ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                                    *Andy Blunden*
>                                    http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>         <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                         <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                                <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                                    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>
>
>                                    mike cole wrote:
>
>                                        Now what to do about that
>         clunky xmca
>                         web page?
>                                        Any volunteers to provide the
>         proper
>                         facilities?
>                                        mike
>
>                                        On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:46
>         AM, Greg
>                         Thompson
>                                        <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>         <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
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>         <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>                         <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>         <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>>>>>> wrote:
>
>                                            Is there a website
>         somewhere that
>                         these sorts of
>                                things can be
>                                            archived?
>                                            E.g., I just noticed that
>         XMCA's
>                         (kinda clunky!)
>                                home page has
>                                            links to
>                                            videos from 2010 and 2008 but
>                         nothing more recent.
>                                            http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/
>
>                                            Seems a shame for this link
>         only to
>                         appear on
>                                Andy's page
>                                        and in
>                                            this email
>                                            that will soon be buried...
>
>                                            Anyone have any ideas?
>
>                                            -greg
>
>                                            On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:47 PM,
>                         Andy Blunden
>                                        <ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>                         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>                         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
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>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>                         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
>                                <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>                         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>>>> wrote:
>
>                                            > In January and February, I
>                         delivered 10 lectures
>                                on *The
>                                            Concepts of CHAT*
>                                            > in Melbourne.
>                                            > I have edited them up into a
>                         series of videos,
>                                using the
>                                        PowerPoint
>                                            > slides, subtitles and
>         audience
>                         views to enhance the
>                                        talking head.
>                                            > Shukla Sikder and Feiyan
>         Chen did
>                         a great job in
>                                video
>                                        recording
>                                            the whole
>                                            > thing and the quality is
>         good.
>                                            > The concepts covered are:
>         Action,
>                         behaviour and
>                                        consciousness;
>                                            Genetic
>                                            > method; unity and
>         dichotomy;                 Analysis by units
>                                and germ
>                                        cell;  Word
>                                            > meaning and artefact-mediated
>                         action, dual
>                                stimulation;            Perezhivanie and
>                                            > catharsis, social
>         situation of
>                         development,
>                                        disability/compensation;
>                                            > Concepts during
>         childhood;                 Spontaneous, true
>                                and actual
>                                            concepts; the
>                                            > emotions; Activity:
>         operations,
>                         actions and
>                                activities;
>                                        Object
>                                            of activity
>                                            > in Leontyev, Engeström and
>                         Vygotsky; Project as
>                                unit of
>                                        social life.
>                                            > The videos and a link to the
>                         prescribed reading
>                                is at
>                                            >
>         https://vimeo.com/groups/301100/
>                                            >
>                                            > There's 10 hours of video
>         there,
>                         so I don't expect
>                                        reviews from
>                                            xmca-ers,
>                                            > but anyone teaching CHAT
>         might
>                         consider whether
>                                it meets
>                                        some of
>                                            your
>                                            > needs. I try to confine
>         myself to
>                         what I know
>                                something
>                                        about
>                                            and as best I
>                                            > could, stayed away from
>         issues of
>                         Psychology and
>                                Learning
>                                            Science of which
>                                            > I am ignorant. Just the
>         Concepts.
>                                            >
>                                            > Andy
>                                            > --
>                                            >
>                                                            
>          ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                                            > *Andy Blunden*
>                                            >
>         http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>         <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                         <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                                <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                                      
>          <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                                          
>          <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>                                            >
>                                            >
>
>
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>                                            Department of Anthropology
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>
>                                        --         It is the dilemma of
>                         psychology to deal as
>                                a natural science
>                                        with an object that creates
>         history.
>                         Ernst Boesch.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                                --         It is the dilemma of
>         psychology to
>                         deal as a natural science
>                                with an object that creates history.
>         Ernst Boesch.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                         --                 It is the dilemma of
>         psychology to deal as a natural
>                         science with an object that creates history.
>         Ernst Boesch.
>                              
>
>                  
>
>
>
>
>         -- 
>         It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science
>         with an object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>
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