[Xmca-l] Re: The Concepts of CHAT

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Fri Mar 6 16:21:25 PST 2015


Thanks for the thoughts, Andy. I am not sure what it means to leave it
where it is AND have a blog (hosted at UCSD?). And not sure how fees would
be collected or who would agree, etc.

How about you organize a committee of willing volunteers, include me as ex
officio, and then come back to the list with a proposal?

mike



On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> Would be goods to see the rest of your message, Renee.
> Mike, here's what I think.
> Leave xmca where it is. If some future leader of LCHC wants to delete it,
> that will have to be handled at the time.
> To develop the xmca community, I suggest you take up an offer you have had
> for a website on a non-university server and a technical manager who can
> just issue server permissions or something. Such a role which would be
> inherited by whoever took over the responsibility for the server in the
> future. Fees would be modest in this instance and easily raised through
> this list.
> All xmca participants would be offered a blog on this site. blogging is
> something which is verging on being a skill which everyone should have, and
> it is very flexible.
> If half a dozen xmca participants could operate blogs then we'd have
> something.
> Nominate an xmca-er - someone like Huw, to manage the coordination of the
> pages, for example, an index of blogs, news, link to xmca archives, etc. -
> a minimal front page.
> That's my view.
> Andy
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Andy Blunden*
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>
>
> UCB wrote:
>
>> I'm
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> The compensation that our times gives for having melted everything into
>>> air is that Google can always find it, even if it is scattered to the four
>>> winds ... provided only that you know what you're looking for.
>>> Andy
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>
>>>
>>> mike cole wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Right, Andy.
>>>>
>>>> LCHC has been a major source of support for MCA because it started
>>>> here. but it is an international journal, and whether it remains anchored
>>>> at UCSD. The xmca discussion
>>>> could or could not go on in any form imaginable. Whether or not there
>>>> is sufficient interest and willingness of people to collaborate in such an
>>>> effort is an open question. Like the future always is.
>>>>
>>>> As Alexander Luria wrote an eon ago in the last paragraph of his
>>>> autobiography:
>>>>
>>>> "People come and go, but the creative sources of great historical
>>>> events and important ideas and deeds remain." Its an optimistic view, but
>>>> seems appropriate to the circumstances.
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
>>>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    It's basically a judgment about longevity, I think.
>>>>    Universities last forever, but sometimes the people who come after
>>>>    don't see the point of preserving old archives.  (That's really
>>>>    true!).
>>>>    Volunteer sites, where active participants control the webpages
>>>>    last as long as the collective. How long will xmca live on after us?
>>>>
>>>>    Andy
>>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------
>>>>    *Andy Blunden*
>>>>    http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>>    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    mike cole wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        Any reason why xmca has to be located at LCHC? mike
>>>>
>>>>        On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Andy Blunden
>>>>        <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>>>>        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>            A web page without an interested and active webmaster looking
>>>>            after and updating will always be a fossil.
>>>>            A volunteer to maintain the UCSD webpages has to be a part
>>>>        of the
>>>>            CHAT discussion AND an employee of UCSD with permissions
>>>>        on the
>>>>            server.
>>>>            Andy
>>>>                   ------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>            *Andy Blunden*
>>>>            http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>>        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>>>            <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            mike cole wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                Now what to do about that clunky xmca web page?
>>>>                Any volunteers to provide the proper facilities?
>>>>                mike
>>>>
>>>>                On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Greg Thompson
>>>>                <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>>>        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>>>        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>>>        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>>
>>>>                <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>>>        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>>>                <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>>>        <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                    Is there a website somewhere that these sorts of
>>>>        things can be
>>>>                    archived?
>>>>                    E.g., I just noticed that XMCA's (kinda clunky!)
>>>>        home page has
>>>>                    links to
>>>>                    videos from 2010 and 2008 but nothing more recent.
>>>>                    http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/
>>>>
>>>>                    Seems a shame for this link only to appear on
>>>>        Andy's page
>>>>                and in
>>>>                    this email
>>>>                    that will soon be buried...
>>>>
>>>>                    Anyone have any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>                    -greg
>>>>
>>>>                    On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Andy Blunden
>>>>                <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>>>>        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
>>>>                    <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>>>        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>>>        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                    > In January and February, I delivered 10 lectures
>>>>        on *The
>>>>                    Concepts of CHAT*
>>>>                    > in Melbourne.
>>>>                    > I have edited them up into a series of videos,
>>>>        using the
>>>>                PowerPoint
>>>>                    > slides, subtitles and audience views to enhance the
>>>>                talking head.
>>>>                    > Shukla Sikder and Feiyan Chen did a great job in
>>>>        video
>>>>                recording
>>>>                    the whole
>>>>                    > thing and the quality is good.
>>>>                    > The concepts covered are: Action, behaviour and
>>>>                consciousness;
>>>>                    Genetic
>>>>                    > method; unity and dichotomy;  Analysis by units
>>>>        and germ
>>>>                cell;  Word
>>>>                    > meaning and artefact-mediated action, dual
>>>>        stimulation;            Perezhivanie and
>>>>                    > catharsis, social situation of development,
>>>>                disability/compensation;
>>>>                    > Concepts during childhood;  Spontaneous, true
>>>>        and actual
>>>>                    concepts; the
>>>>                    > emotions; Activity: operations, actions and
>>>>        activities;
>>>>                Object
>>>>                    of activity
>>>>                    > in Leontyev, Engeström and Vygotsky; Project as
>>>>        unit of
>>>>                social life.
>>>>                    > The videos and a link to the prescribed reading
>>>>        is at
>>>>                    > https://vimeo.com/groups/301100/
>>>>                    >
>>>>                    > There's 10 hours of video there, so I don't expect
>>>>                reviews from
>>>>                    xmca-ers,
>>>>                    > but anyone teaching CHAT might consider whether
>>>>        it meets
>>>>                some of
>>>>                    your
>>>>                    > needs. I try to confine myself to what I know
>>>>        something
>>>>                about
>>>>                    and as best I
>>>>                    > could, stayed away from issues of Psychology and
>>>>        Learning
>>>>                    Science of which
>>>>                    > I am ignorant. Just the Concepts.
>>>>                    >
>>>>                    > Andy
>>>>                    > --
>>>>                    >
>>>>                       ------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>                    > *Andy Blunden*
>>>>                    > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>>        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>>>                <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>>>                    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
>>>>                    >
>>>>                    >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                    --
>>>>                    Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>>>                    Assistant Professor
>>>>                    Department of Anthropology
>>>>                    880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>>>                    Brigham Young University
>>>>                    Provo, UT 84602
>>>>                    http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                --         It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as
>>>>        a natural science
>>>>                with an object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        --         It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural
>>>> science
>>>>        with an object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
>>>> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


-- 
It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
that creates history. Ernst Boesch.


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