[Xmca-l] Re: "cultivating Minds

[HENRY SHONERD]

And a thousand clowns!

> On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:26 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> This is a long and challenging thread already, Larry. Making the
> connections between
> Boesch, Urs, Simmel,,,,,, is something I will have to think about. Feels
> like a family resemblence alright. But I wonder about the following
> conclusion:
> 
> I am suggesting that Simmel, Urs Furher, and Ernst Boesch were all
> following in the footsteps of the concept of "polyvalence" [multiple worths
> and  values] as symbolic actions.
> 
> Might the similarity arise because symbolic actions are polysemic, and
> polyvalence is a part of
> polysemy of meaning?
> 
> Where do the symbolic interactionists come into this story. Kenneth Burke,
> for example?
> 
> next comes the poetry and music!
> mike
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>> I will follow further in Simmels and Urs Furher's footsteps as this
>> theme also brings in Ernst Boesch's theory of "symbolic action" which was
>> developed as a notion that all phenomena [including action] have both
>> objective and symbolic "aspects". Boesch wrote:
>> 
>> "This 'pervasiveness' of symbolism may be easy to grasp for a psychologist
>> with psychoanalytic experience or with strong artistic tastes; in my case,
>> however, although I believe myself to have a bit of both, this insight had
>> much more 'rational' roots. ... I trace its inception back to the 1963
>> article 'Raum und Zeit als Valenzsysteme', in which I formulated, for the
>> first time, the close *interrelatedness of 'valence' *[LP- worth/value ]
>> and 'structure': the conceptual structuring of space depends, I said, upon
>> the location of valences [worth/values] - it was the *'wish to return'
>> *which
>> led to the specification and stability of *places.*"  [cited in "reasons
>> For a Symbolic Concept of Action" in Culture and Psychology 1997
>> Volume 3(3): pages 423-431]
>> 
>> I am suggesting that Simmel, Urs Furher, and Ernst Boesch were all
>> following in the footsteps of the concept of "polyvalence" [multiple worths
>> and  values] as symbolic actions.
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:23 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Amazing "coincidence" Larry--- I just wrote to Urs who I have not
>>> corresponded with for years as a result of going through his book on
>>> cultivating minds. It has a chapter on behavior
>>> settings as media for promoting children's development that has me
>>> re-thinking a number of issues. Among other things, there is a very
>>> interesting discussion of Roger Barker's research program. Very worth
>> while
>>> 
>>> I could not open that file you sent, but I found the link to the journal
>>> article. Its here:
>>> 
>>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Histarch/ja93v15n1.PDF
>>> 
>>> There are a number of other interesting/relevant articles there. "The
>> sound
>>> of the violin" is a favorite.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for reminding us of Simmel.
>>> Today, March 1, was his birthday!
>>> Coincidence?
>>> mike
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mike,
>>>> I continued to explore Urs Furher's book that you mentioned on Simmel
>>> that
>>>> would be potentially beneficial to follow. In my explorations I came
>>> across
>>>> this article on the metaphor of "traces" or "footprints" in the XMCA
>>>> archives. It was written in 1993 and is an interesting perspective on
>> the
>>>> metaphor of cultivation AS FOOTPRINTS.  It is the third article in the
>>>> newsletter.
>>>> Urs is pointing to the reciprocal processes of "internalizing" and
>>>> "externalizing" the inner "affective sense" of "place" through
>> attachment
>>>> to "home" and "vehicle" as concrete ways to form one's identity through
>>>> attachment/security needs and  autonomy needs.
>>>> Larry
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
>> object
>>> that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
> that creates history. Ernst Boesch.