[Xmca-l] Re: Ruqaiya Hasan

[Martin John Packer]

On Jun 29, 2015, at 4:51 PM, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:

> But
> Ruqaiya and her student Clare Cloran were the ones who really provided
> empirical evidence that class dialects were not simply matters of phonology
> and phonetics. There were differences in lexical choice, and difference in
> grammatical patterns as well. So class "dialects" were not simply dialects.
> In fact, they were NOT dialects at all. 

David, where does this leave Labov's analysis of the negative in Black vernacular English, in which he seems to see "radically different kinds of grammatical operations"?  And here's his rebuttal of the notion that African American kids are intellectually deficient; he writes that "All linguists agree that nonstandard dialects are highly structured systems"; evidently not just different in phonology and phonetics.

<http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/95sep/ets/labo.htm>

Martin