[Xmca-l] Re: "Language Gap" forum in JLA

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Mon Jun 1 12:16:06 PDT 2015


did you see my paper on this issue using bill hall's work?
Its one of my list of topics lurching along

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On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:

> I agree. The "word gap" research has often been conducted using
> standardized vocabulary tests that assume that if words aren't on the
> tests, then they don't really count. And guess whose words are on the
> tests? Not the kid in the housing project or barrio.
>
> But I've heard well-regarded university professors refer to the Matthew
> Effect of rich getting richer and poor getting poorer based on how kids are
> talked to at home. How many white university researchers--the sort of
> people who makes these claims--have ever tried to get up a housing project
> staircase to talk to anyone and see what they're saying and where they
> learned it from? (I say staircase because when I lived in Chicago, a
> chronic problem of high rise housing projects was that gangs would disable
> the elevators as soon as they opened and patrol the lobbies and stairwells
> to control life in the building.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 2:21 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: "Language Gap" forum in JLA
>
> Very interesting paper. It is amazing how the culture of poverty has made
> such a comback.
> mike
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:18 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > thanks!!
> > mike
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >> A lot of pretty smart contributors to this forum. p
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes
> > you see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something
> > that isn't even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes you
> see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something that isn't
> even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*
>
>


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All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes
you see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something
that isn't even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*


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