[Xmca-l] Re: Shpet & principium cognescenti

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Tue Jan 27 17:29:33 PST 2015


That is a wonderful overview of Spet's life and sequence of ideas, Larry.
It clearly draws a line from Husserl to Shpet and, we know from the writing
of Zinchenko and Wertsch, from Spet to
Vygotsky. Mysl i slovo is "thought and word" in reference to the journal.

Vygotsky was not taken out and shot and he did not make public his
indebtedness to Shpet, or so it seems. Instead he died of tuberculosis, as
the terror began to make itself public.

Great to have a skeleton of the story
mike

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:21 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:

> I can try an answer, Huw. These idea of a triadic system, spirals of
> development, etc
> are core metaphors for expressing some sort of thirdness about human life.
> Father/son and holy ghost, id/ego/superego, subject/object/medium etc. It
> is a part of the Judeo-Christian system and aligns with non-religiously
> affiliated intuitions that dualism does not cut it as a mode of thought.
> The trouble is, there are only two kinds of people in the world....
> !
> mike
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There seems to be a clear parallel between Vygotsky's use of the
>> formulation "in itself, for others, for itself" and Shpet's referencing
>> theological principium cognescenti which according to my brief browsing
>> are
>> three principles:
>> principium essendi, principium cognoscendi externum, principium
>> cognoscendi
>> internum.
>>
>> Is anyone here familiar with the etymology of these principles and their
>> bearing on Vygotsky's work?  Is there more than a superficial resemblance?
>>
>> Huw
>>
>
>
>
> --
> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal with a natural science as an
> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>
>
>


-- 
It is the dilemma of psychology to deal with a natural science as an object
that creates history. Ernst Boesch.


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