[Xmca-l] Re: What is a Pedagogy of the Oppressors?

[Annalisa Aguilar]

Andy,

You answered the first question though not the others. 

You may not believe me that the first question was rhetorical, but not the others. 

It seems you have misunderstood me 100%!  :)

Kind regards,

Annalisa

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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: What is a Pedagogy of the Oppressors?

The quote is of course a translation. Marx wrote in German. In any case,
the 19th century concept of "man" which he references, was used also
without qualification by the great feminist, and English-speaking
contemporary of Marx, Mary Wollstonecraft. The discovery of the
oppressive function of gendered language was a gain of Second Wave
feminism of the 1960s of which we are all the beneficiaries.

Andy
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Annalisa Aguilar wrote:
> Hi Andy!
>
> With regard to this:
>
>  "The materialist doctrine that men are products of circumstances and
>     upbringing, and that, therefore, changed men are products of changed
>     circumstances and changed upbringing, forgets that it is men who
>     change circumstances and that the educator must himself be educated.
>     Hence this doctrine is bound to divide society into two parts, one
>     of which is superior to society. The coincidence of the changing of
>     circumstances and of human activity or self-change can be conceived
>     and rationally understood only as **revolutionary practice**."
>
> First I'd ask, what about the women? Where are they in this scheme?
>
> Second, does this education that Marx considers (educating the educated) concern the care of others? Where is the feeling? How is compassion taught? What is the view on the pain of others? How is that "rationally understood"?
>
> Third, revolution frequently is bloody. How does Marx answer for that? Or is that just an inconvenience?
>
> Also, I'm not certain how this defines the pedagogy of the oppressor. It certainly identifies a need for "re-education," but what IS the education that the educator must let go?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Annalisa
>
>