[Xmca-l] Re: Kozol's writing place

HENRY SHONERD hshonerd@gmail.com
Sat Aug 22 15:52:29 PDT 2015


Larry,
I love this quote from Vygotsky. Inner speech, inner dialog, as I understand it. It reminds me of: How do I know what I am going to say, until I have said it? In the interview, Kozol says that his books begin to write themselves. In an interview some years ago E.L. Doctorow said the same thing. But the books of both authors are years in the making. Vygotsky talks of incubation in his article Imagination and Creativity in Childhood. 
Henry

> On Aug 22, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Lplarry <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> What does it mean to "essay".
> Vygotsky wrote:
> The relation of thought to word is not a thing but a process, a continual MOVEMENT back and forth from thought to word and from word to thought. In that process the RELATION OF thought to word UNDERGOES changes which themselves may be regarded AS DEVELOPMENT in the functional sense. Thought is not merely expressed  in words, it comes INTO EXISTENCE THROUGH THEM.
> 
> ESSAY as art form
> ESSAY as thought coming into existence
> ESSAY as having "an" experience.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Lplarry" <lpscholar2@gmail.com>
> Sent: ‎2015-‎08-‎22 10:18 AM
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Xmca-l] Re: Kozol's writing place
> 
> Another "link" back to "opyt" as "experience".
> One trans/lation I found of "opyt" is "essay" which  opens a door into the "creative" Process of art forms .
> 
> 
> 
> From: Robert Lake
> Sent: ‎2015-‎08-‎22 10:10 AM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Kozol's writing place
> 
> 
> Thanks  Henry. I kept thinking of Vera's book as well I was watching it.
> RL
> On Aug 22, 2015 1:04 PM, "HENRY SHONERD" <hshonerd@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Robert,
>> The whole half hour interview is worth a whole lot! Thank you! Things I
>> especially liked: His sharing of the artifacts, his messy method, and , of
>> course,  the place where he writes.( Larry Purss just shared an article on
>> Meade that cites the trascendetalists of 19th Century America, who I
>> associate with the very kind of New England house where Kozol writes.) All
>> of the interview reminded me of Vera John Steiner’s Notebooks of the Mind
>> on the creative process. And the importance of lived experience Who
>> couldn’t love the guy? And they fired him!
>> Henry
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> The first 12 minutes of th
>>> ​e program linked below​
>>> are worth watching
>>> ​ because shed light on Kozol's creative process of writing and reveal
>> some
>>> of the sources of his inspiration to write.
>>> Langston Hughes sent Kozol an
>>> autographed
>>> photo
>>> ​ of himself​
>>> 
>>> ​after​
>>> 
>>> ​Kozol​
>>> was fired
>>> ​ from his first teaching job​
>>> for reading one of
>>> ​Hughes'​
>>> poems in a high school English class.
>>>>>> ​Kozol​
>>> says reading Rilke, Yeats and Auden are his soul foo
>>> ​d​ and
>>> ​ he was also a personal friend of Mister Rogers.* Who knew?​*
>>> http://www.c-span.org/video/?288596-2/jonathan-kozol-writing-books.
>>> 
>>> Robert Lake  Ed.D.
>>> Associate Professor
>>> Social Foundations of Education
>>> Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading
>>> Georgia Southern University
>>> Secretary/Treasurer-AERA- Paulo Freire Special Interest Group
>>> P. O. Box 8144
>>> Phone: (912) 478-0355
>>> Fax: (912) 478-5382
>>> Statesboro, GA  30460
>>> *He not busy being born is busy dying.*
>>> Bob Dylan (1964).
>> 
>> 




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