[Xmca-l] Re: vygotsky's theory and symbolic interactionism

[Andy Blunden]

Greg, Mead did actually read the Phenomenology and explicitly claimed 
that his I/Me concept was based on the Phenomenology. Vygotsky did not 
read Hegel (only Lenin, Marx, Engels and those of his contemporaries who 
did read Hegel).
However, my reading of Mead is that he never grasped the significance of 
mediation in communication and subjectivity, despite the name  - 
"symbolic interationism" - given to the school he spawned. I think, as 
Chuck said, he saw using words as a creative act and seems not to have 
reflected on the implications of the fact that the symbol pre-exists the 
action of using it.

Andy
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*Andy Blunden*
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Greg Thompson wrote:
> Paul,
> And another piece you might be interested in:
> Winter, J. A. and Goldfield, E. C. (1991), Caregiver-Child Interaction in
> the Development of Self: The Contributions of Vygotsky, Bruner, and Kaye to
> Mead's Theory. Symbolic Interaction, 14: 433-447.
> doi: 10.1525/si.1991.14.4.433
>
> I suspect a Hegelian/Marxian root is shared between Vygotsky and Mead. Mead
> said at one point that his social psychology was an attempt to do what
> Hegel did, with the hopes that it would be "less incorrigible." I have the
> exact quote somewhere if you're interested.
>
> The Vygotsky-Hegel connections have been much debated here on XMCA, but it
> seems that there is good reason to think that Vygotsky would have been
> influenced by Hegel, whether directly or indirectly (quick duck - I think
> they'll be some words flying soon in defense of one side or the other of
> this argument...).
>
> I'm interested in this intersection as well, more in terms of links and
> complementarities with Goffman and Vygotsky, but I'm happy to chat about
> the Mead/Vygotsky link.
>
> -greg
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:53 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>> Anne Edwards has an article on this topic in *The Cambridge Companion to
>> Vygotsky".
>>
>> I have inquired of Anne, and would of anyone interested, to understand
>> where the concept of culture appears in the Meadian framework.
>>
>> mike
>>
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>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
>> pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:
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>>> I am working on a paper comparing and contrasting george herbert mead's
>>> symbolic interactionism with
>>> vygotsky's theory....any suggestions anyone?
>>>
>>> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
>>> President
>>> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc.
>>> www.mocombeian.com
>>> www.readingroomcurriculum.com
>>> www.paulcmocombe.info
>>>
>>> Race and Class Distinctions within Black Communities
>>> www.routledge.com/9780415714372
>>>       
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