From boblake@georgiasouthern.edu Sat Feb 1 06:19:47 2014 From: boblake@georgiasouthern.edu (Robert Lake) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 09:19:47 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] In 1958 Pete Seeger Wrote and Recorded a Song For His Own Passing Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VHVY8KOzuw *TO MY OLD BROWN EARTH * To my old brown earth And to my old blue sky I'll now give these last few molecules of "I." And you who sing, And you who stand nearby, I do charge you not to cry. Guard well our human chain, Watch well you keep it strong, As long as sun will shine. And this our home, Keep pure and sweet and green, For now I'm yours And you are also mine. Words and Music by Pete Seeger (1958) (c) 1964 (renewed) by Stormking Music Inc. From smago@uga.edu Sun Feb 2 04:14:17 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 12:14:17 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: Sam Cooke 50 year ago... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <045cd8f0fa9b4a0b939294fb842db790@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Taking nothing away from Pete Seeger, here's a feature on one of my very favorite singers, Sam Cooke, who was killed in his 20s but might also have had a career as a social critic had he survived. http://www.npr.org/2014/02/01/268995033/sam-cooke-and-the-song-that-almost-scared-him?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebook From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 3 02:14:04 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:14:04 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: Book Series CfP: Palgrave Studies in Global Citizenship Education and Democracy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1cd6790bb46945d4b7cec272ebf8f5bd@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> THIS IS A FORWARDED MESSAGE. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THE SENDER. READ THE MESSAGE CAREFULLY FOR INFORMATION ON THE ORIGINAL SENDER Dear AERA SIG Colleagues: My name is Jason Laker and I am an AERA Member and Professor of Education at San Jos? State University in California, USA. I am editing a new series with Palgrave UK entitled, "Palgrave Studies in Global Citizenship Education and Democracy." I would greatly appreciate it if you would forward this to the SIG e-news list for the benefit of fellow AERA SIG colleagues who may be interested in developing a book for possible inclusion. Thank you very much! Jason Here is a link to the series page: http://www.palgrave.com/products/SearchResults.aspx?s=GCED&fid=449802). Inquiries can be directed to me at jlaker.sjsu@gmail.com DESCRIPTION: Palgrave Studies in Global Citizenship Education and Democracy Series Editor: Jason Laker, Professor, San Jos? State University, USA This series will engage with the theoretical and practical debates regarding citizenship, human rights education, social inclusion, and individual and group identities as they relate to the role of higher and adult education on an international scale. Books in the series will consider hopeful possibilities for the capacity of higher and adult education to enable citizenship, human rights, democracy and the common good, including emerging research and interesting and effective practices. It will also participate in and stimulate deliberation and debate about the constraints, barriers and sources and forms of resistance to realizing the promise of egalitarian Civil Societies. The series will facilitate continued conversation on policy and politics, curriculum and pedagogy, review and reform, and provide a comparative overview of the different conceptions and approaches to citizenship education and democracy around the world. -- Jason A. Laker, Ph.D. Professor, Department of Counselor Education & Ed.D. Program in Educational Leadership Co-Investigator, Sexual Coercion and Violence in College: Reforming Policies and Practices for Consent Education and Personal Agency Series Editor, Palgrave Studies in Global Citizenship Education and Democracy San Jos? State University One Washington Square, Sweeney Hall 404 San Jos?, CA 95192-0073 O: 408-924-3654 F: 408-924-4137 "The only ethics you can have, with regard to the exercise of power, is the freedom of others." -Foucault "You were born with wings. Why prefer to crawl through life? -Rumi It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious. -Oscar Wilde From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 3 02:49:12 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:49:12 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Dylan at the super bowl Message-ID: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. Here's one media account: BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the Chobani ad. Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an established star or have written something that brings in royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," often they're just trying to earn a steady living. Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too oriented to producing a hit. I must say, this one puzzled me. From peterfh46@gmail.com Mon Feb 3 03:31:03 2014 From: peterfh46@gmail.com (Peter Hourdequin) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:31:03 +0900 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when he sings: "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot and they make you king. / " Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. > On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > Apologies to Pete Seeger...... > > For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. Here's one media account: > > > BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the Chobani ad. > > Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an established star or have written something that brings in royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," often they're just trying to earn a steady living. > > Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too oriented to producing a hit. > > I must say, this one puzzled me. > > > From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 3 03:40:08 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 11:40:08 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has been offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians how to make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But Dylan has always been an iconoclast. -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Hourdequin Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when he sings: "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot and they make you king. / " Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. > On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > Apologies to Pete Seeger...... > > For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. Here's one media account: > > > BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the Chobani ad. > > Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an established star or have written something that brings in royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," often they're just trying to earn a steady living. > > Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too oriented to producing a hit. > > I must say, this one puzzled me. > > > From bruce@brucerob.eu Mon Feb 3 04:05:11 2014 From: bruce@brucerob.eu (Bruce Robinson) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:05:11 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <219045a9-4d86-491f-84f9-d6ca7ecea034@email.android.com> I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). Bruce R Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has been >offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians how to >make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But Dylan has >always been an iconoclast. > >-----Original Message----- >From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >[mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >Peter Hourdequin >Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > >I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must say >that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when he >sings: >"They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot and >they make you king. / " >Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >"Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / I >say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" /They >don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above the >law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too much >to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ > >Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." > >In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred day >of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling about >the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American >consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is >selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. > > >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> >> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >> >> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a >surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car >manufacturer. It appears at >http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >Here's one media account: >> >> >> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and >that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on >to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, >let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will >build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, >if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the >Chobani ad. >> >> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an >established star or have written something that brings in royalties >over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone >players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and >worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family >(James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and >cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >> >> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, >he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare >to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too >oriented to producing a hit. >> >> I must say, this one puzzled me. >> >> >> -- Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 3 04:46:43 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:46:43 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: <219045a9-4d86-491f-84f9-d6ca7ecea034@email.android.com> References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <219045a9-4d86-491f-84f9-d6ca7ecea034@email.android.com> Message-ID: <8eccb8a380814b82b7c743e7903e7c58@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). Bruce R Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has been >offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians how to >make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But Dylan has >always been an iconoclast. > >-----Original Message----- >From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >[mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >Peter Hourdequin >Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > >I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must say >that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when he >sings: >"They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot and >they make you king. / " >Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >"Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / I >say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" /They >don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above the >law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too much >to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ > >Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." > >In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred day >of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling about >the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American >consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is >selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. > > >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> >> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >> >> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a >surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car >manufacturer. It appears at >http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >Here's one media account: >> >> >> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and >that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on >to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, >let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will >build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, >if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the >Chobani ad. >> >> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an >established star or have written something that brings in royalties >over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone >players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and >worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family >(James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and >cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >> >> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, >he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare >to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too >oriented to producing a hit. >> >> I must say, this one puzzled me. >> >> >> -- Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From peterfh46@gmail.com Mon Feb 3 05:46:10 2014 From: peterfh46@gmail.com (Peter Hourdequin) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:46:10 +0900 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: <8eccb8a380814b82b7c743e7903e7c58@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <219045a9-4d86-491f-84f9-d6ca7ecea034@email.android.com> <8eccb8a380814b82b7c743e7903e7c58@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states. In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the rust belt continues to rust. The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the US. Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other viable jobs for those rust belt employees? And where is the market that will drive these jobs? I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real production seems pretty empty. > On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > > I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. > I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). > Bruce R > > Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has been >> offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians how to >> make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But Dylan has >> always been an iconoclast. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >> Peter Hourdequin >> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >> >> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must say >> that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >> songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when he >> sings: >> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot and >> they make you king. / " >> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / I >> say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" /They >> don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above the >> law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too much >> to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ >> >> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." >> >> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >> well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred day >> of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling about >> the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American >> consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is >> selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. >> >> >>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>> >>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >>> >>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a >> surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car >> manufacturer. It appears at >> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >> Here's one media account: >>> >>> >>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and >> that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on >> to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, >> let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will >> build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, >> if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the >> Chobani ad. >>> >>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an >> established star or have written something that brings in royalties >> over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone >> players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and >> worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family >> (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and >> cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >>> >>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, >> he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare >> to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too >> oriented to producing a hit. >>> >>> I must say, this one puzzled me. >>> >>> >>> > > -- > Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > From mpacker@uniandes.edu.co Mon Feb 3 06:13:14 2014 From: mpacker@uniandes.edu.co (Martin John Packer) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:13:14 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <219045a9-4d86-491f-84f9-d6ca7ecea034@email.android.com> <8eccb8a380814b82b7c743e7903e7c58@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: I didn't see the ad (or the game!), but Detroit desperately needs any help it can get, or simply some attention in the public media. Martin On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Peter Hourdequin wrote: > I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. > > But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states. In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the rust belt continues to rust. > > The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the US. Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other viable jobs for those rust belt employees? And where is the market that will drive these jobs? > > I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real production seems pretty empty. > >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> >> Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson >> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >> >> I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. >> I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). >> Bruce R >> >> Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >>> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has been >>> offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians how to >>> make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But Dylan has >>> always been an iconoclast. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >>> Peter Hourdequin >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>> >>> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must say >>> that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >>> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >>> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >>> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >>> songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when he >>> sings: >>> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >>> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot and >>> they make you king. / " >>> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >>> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / I >>> say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" /They >>> don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above the >>> law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too much >>> to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ >>> >>> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >>> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." >>> >>> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >>> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >>> well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred day >>> of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling about >>> the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American >>> consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is >>> selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>> >>>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >>>> >>>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >>> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a >>> surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car >>> manufacturer. It appears at >>> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >>> Here's one media account: >>>> >>>> >>>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >>> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >>> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and >>> that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on >>> to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, >>> let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will >>> build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, >>> if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the >>> Chobani ad. >>>> >>>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >>> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an >>> established star or have written something that brings in royalties >>> over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone >>> players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and >>> worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family >>> (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and >>> cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >>> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >>>> >>>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >>> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, >>> he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare >>> to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too >>> oriented to producing a hit. >>>> >>>> I must say, this one puzzled me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > From dkirsh@lsu.edu Mon Feb 3 06:17:57 2014 From: dkirsh@lsu.edu (David H Kirshner) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:17:57 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an established star or have written something that brings in royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. Well, I hope so. I hope Dylan did this out of economic necessity with full understanding that in endorsing the consumerist culture of self-absorption he's betraying an ethos of art as personal and social transformation that has been part of his cultural meaning and legacy. David -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces+dkirsh=lsu.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+dkirsh=lsu.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Hourdequin Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 5:31 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when he sings: "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot and they make you king. / " Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. > On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > Apologies to Pete Seeger...... > > For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. Here's one media account: > > > BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the Chobani ad. > > Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an established star or have written something that brings in royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," often they're just trying to earn a steady living. > > Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too oriented to producing a hit. > > I must say, this one puzzled me. > > > From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 3 06:45:43 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:45:43 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <219045a9-4d86-491f-84f9-d6ca7ecea034@email.android.com> <8eccb8a380814b82b7c743e7903e7c58@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: I included a link to the ad in my original post. -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Martin John Packer Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:13 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl I didn't see the ad (or the game!), but Detroit desperately needs any help it can get, or simply some attention in the public media. Martin On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Peter Hourdequin wrote: > I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. > > But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states. In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the rust belt continues to rust. > > The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the US. Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other viable jobs for those rust belt employees? And where is the market that will drive these jobs? > > I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real production seems pretty empty. > >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> >> Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and >> thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson >> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >> >> I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. >> I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). >> Bruce R >> >> Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >>> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has >>> been offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians >>> how to make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But >>> Dylan has always been an iconoclast. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >>> Peter Hourdequin >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>> >>> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must >>> say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >>> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >>> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >>> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >>> songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when >>> he >>> sings: >>> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >>> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot >>> and they make you king. / " >>> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >>> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / >>> I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" >>> /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is >>> above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it >>> costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper >>> someplace else./ >>> >>> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >>> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." >>> >>> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >>> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >>> well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred >>> day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed >>> feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part >>> of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument >>> that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>> >>>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >>>> >>>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >>> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In >>> rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for >>> Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at >>> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >>> Here's one media account: >>>> >>>> >>>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >>> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >>> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars >>> and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he >>> goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew >>> your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your >>> phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the >>> night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" >>> that played in the Chobani ad. >>>> >>>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >>> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're >>> an established star or have written something that brings in >>> royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the >>> greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a >>> two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to >>> support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was >>> notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >>> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >>>> >>>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >>> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first >>> order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's >>> ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt >>> they were too oriented to producing a hit. >>>> >>>> I must say, this one puzzled me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > From glassman.13@osu.edu Mon Feb 3 06:54:01 2014 From: glassman.13@osu.edu (Glassman, Michael) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:54:01 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com>, Message-ID: <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB154082@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> It seems to me there is a lot of context here that shouldn't be easily dismissed. The first is that the UAW is one of the first and most important unions in the United States. This is certainly a sub-text of the commercial, although it is difficult to say this one something like the Super Bowl because there will be an enormous amount of push back, and the idea will be lost. To a certain extent the commercial reminded me at least a little bit of the "Look for the union label" campaign of my youth. The second subtext is trade agreement - U.S. workers and the environment are being destroyed by corrupt trade agreements. The idea that free trade is better than protectionism has really made has been used a a wedge issue that has destroyed so many families - especially because there really is no such thing as free trade. The third issue is the rise of multi-national corporations and their complete un-mooring from any societies. I think open communication and a distributed world view is important, but so is protecting societies as a stable base - there is a need to balance the two (wasn't that one of Vygotsky's point). All and all not such a bad advertisement I think. One can make the argument that it was not really nationalist because in 2014 in the U.S. nationalism does not move in the direction of talking about how important and special the worker is (more towards how special and important our bombs are). As for Dylan. Well he was never Woody Guthrie to begin with (although I'm not sure Guthrie wouldn't have made something similar if he had creative control). That is just another one of the lies we baby boomers tell ourselves (and that's with Knocking on Heaven's door being my all time favorite song). Michael ________________________________________ From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of David H Kirshner [dkirsh@lsu.edu] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:17 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an established star or have written something that brings in royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. Well, I hope so. I hope Dylan did this out of economic necessity with full understanding that in endorsing the consumerist culture of self-absorption he's betraying an ethos of art as personal and social transformation that has been part of his cultural meaning and legacy. David -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces+dkirsh=lsu.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+dkirsh=lsu.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Hourdequin Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 5:31 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when he sings: "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot and they make you king. / " Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. > On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > Apologies to Pete Seeger...... > > For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. Here's one media account: > > > BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the Chobani ad. > > Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an established star or have written something that brings in royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," often they're just trying to earn a steady living. > > Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too oriented to producing a hit. > > I must say, this one puzzled me. > > > From bazerman@education.ucsb.edu Mon Feb 3 06:51:45 2014 From: bazerman@education.ucsb.edu (Charles Bazerman) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:51:45 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <219045a9-4d86-491f-84f9-d6ca7ecea034@email.android.com> <8eccb8a380814b82b7c743e7903e7c58@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Capitalism and "Buy American" are very complicated these days. Chrysler for a while was owned by Daimler Benz, then the US government owned a large bailout piece, and the unions had a big stake through the health and pension funds. The Obama administration made a point of saying the bailout was to protect the workers, not the stockholders or corporation. Fiat has been increasing its ownership stake and has just completed buying out all parties and paying off the union obligations. While Chrysler cars for the US market are now assembled in the US (as are a number of "non-US" Brands such as Toyota), I am not sure of what percentage of materials and components are U.S. origin. No doubt Dylan is a good symbol for "buy American" but probably not so much for "acheter mondial Fran?ais" or "Deutsch Genauigkeit" (though Janice Joplin's estate did license "Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz" for cheeky Benz commercials). I'll let you figure it out. While I'll enjoy the products of the entertainment industry and always appreciate talented artists no matter who pays the piper (Bach was paid by the church and Mozart mostly by Royalty), for true culture hero, I'll stay with Pete. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Hourdequin Date: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:46 pm Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" > I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which > are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be > the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I > am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt > producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not > "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. > > But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product > to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when > Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), > this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states. > In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the > rust belt continues to rust. > > The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer > choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, > and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has > led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I > think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics > manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans > support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the > US. Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan > on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other > viable jobs for those rust belt employees? And where is the market > that will drive these jobs? > > I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind > in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the > worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real > production seems pretty empty. > > > On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > > > Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and > thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu > [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > > > > I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but > disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American > imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is > nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American > workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the > Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a > job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before > buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other > solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to > make socially useful products. > > I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy > British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). > > Bruce R > > > > Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > >> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played > > >> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has > been > >> offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians how to > > >> make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But Dylan has > > >> always been an iconoclast. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu > >> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of > > >> Peter Hourdequin > >> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM > >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > >> > >> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must > say > >> that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many > >> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from > >> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, > > >> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two > >> songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when > he > >> sings: > >> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel > > >> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot > and > >> they make you king. / " > >> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: > >> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. > / I > >> say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" > /They > >> don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above > the > >> law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too > much > >> to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ > >> > >> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. > /Sure > >> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." > >> > >> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a > >> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger > as > >> well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred > day > >> of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling > about > >> the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American > > >> consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is > > >> selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. > >> > >> > >>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > >>> > >>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... > >>> > >>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super > >> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In > rather a > >> surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the > car > >> manufacturer. It appears at > >> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. > >> Here's one media account: > >>> > >>> > >>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a > >> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked > >> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars > and > >> that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes > on > >> to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your > beer, > >> let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We > will > >> build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for > Dylan, > >> if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in > the > >> Chobani ad. > >>> > >>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a > >> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless > you're an > >> established star or have written something that brings in royalties > > >> over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest > saxophone > >> players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and > > >> worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family > > >> (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted > and > >> cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," > >> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. > >>> > >>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record > >> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first > order, > >> he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. > Compare > >> to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too > > >> oriented to producing a hit. > >>> > >>> I must say, this one puzzled me. > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > -- > > Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > From joeg4us@roadrunner.com Mon Feb 3 07:29:15 2014 From: joeg4us@roadrunner.com (Joseph Gilbert) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:29:15 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Dylan is concerned for America. What is happening to our way of life, our standard of living? Also, he wants to reach people wherever they are. The Superbowl is the best place to contact Americans. So what if he also wants to make more $s?! What's wrong with that? Nothing! Those who are alergic to money have a problem. Money is neither good nor bad, what one does with it matters. Joseph Gilbert On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:49 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > Apologies to Pete Seeger...... > > For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. Here's one media account: > > > BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in the Chobani ad. > > Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're an established star or have written something that brings in royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," often they're just trying to earn a steady living. > > Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too oriented to producing a hit. > > I must say, this one puzzled me. > > > From leifstrandberg.ab@telia.com Mon Feb 3 07:31:33 2014 From: leifstrandberg.ab@telia.com (Leif Strandberg) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:31:33 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: References: <73e114443d8e441885bcb20b9f0343a0@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <57281AF9-A339-40A0-9B21-BA7E58A86774@gmail.com> <1ef28623067743b59f3a7ac8d1a71d54@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <219045a9-4d86-491f-84f9-d6ca7ecea034@email.android.com> <8eccb8a380814b82b7c743e7903e7c58@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <6AEF118E-623C-4F34-B207-6221EE39F710@telia.com> In my country Sweden our wellknown football-artist Zlatan Ibrahimovic? makes the same thing as Dylan ? promoting the Automobil Business? here we are talking Volvo and the slogan is: ?Made by Sweden? (and Volvo (?born in Sweden?) is now a Chinese car, and Zlatan Ibrahimovic? is indeed born i Sweden? I find it interesting and hopeful that origin and identity can flow across borders, and change?. and become new things. Leif Sweden 3 feb 2014 kl. 15:51 skrev Charles Bazerman : > Capitalism and "Buy American" are very complicated these days. Chrysler for a while was owned by Daimler Benz, then the US government owned a large bailout piece, and the unions had a big stake through the health and pension funds. The Obama administration made a point of saying the bailout was to protect the workers, not the stockholders or corporation. Fiat has been increasing its ownership stake and has just completed buying out all parties and paying off the union obligations. While Chrysler cars for the US market are now assembled in the US (as are a number of "non-US" Brands such as Toyota), I am not sure of what percentage of materials and components are U.S. origin. No doubt Dylan is a good symbol for "buy American" but probably not so much for "acheter mondial Fran?ais" or "Deutsch Genauigkeit" (though Janice Joplin's estate did license "Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz" for cheeky Benz commercials). > > I'll let you figure it out. While I'll enjoy the products of the entertainment industry and always appreciate talented artists no matter who pays the piper (Bach was paid by the church and Mozart mostly by Royalty), for true culture hero, I'll stay with Pete. > Chuck > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Hourdequin > Date: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:46 pm > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" > >> I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which >> are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be >> the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I >> am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt >> producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not >> "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. >> >> But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product >> to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when >> Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), >> this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states. >> In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the >> rust belt continues to rust. >> >> The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer >> choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, >> and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has >> led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I >> think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics >> manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans >> support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the >> US. Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan >> on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other >> viable jobs for those rust belt employees? And where is the market >> that will drive these jobs? >> >> I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind >> in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the >> worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real >> production seems pretty empty. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>> >>> Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and >> thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM >>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>> >>> I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but >> disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American >> imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is >> nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American >> workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the >> Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a >> job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before >> buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other >> solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to >> make socially useful products. >>> I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy >> British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). >>> Bruce R >>> >>> Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >> >>>> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has >> been >>>> offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians how to >> >>>> make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But Dylan has >> >>>> always been an iconoclast. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >> >>>> Peter Hourdequin >>>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>>> >>>> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must >> say >>>> that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >>>> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >>>> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >> >>>> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >>>> songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when >> he >>>> sings: >>>> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >> >>>> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot >> and >>>> they make you king. / " >>>> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >>>> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. >> / I >>>> say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" >> /They >>>> don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is above >> the >>>> law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it costs too >> much >>>> to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper someplace else./ >>>> >>>> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. >> /Sure >>>> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." >>>> >>>> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >>>> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger >> as >>>> well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred >> day >>>> of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed feeling >> about >>>> the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part of American >> >>>> consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument that he is >> >>>> selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >>>>> >>>>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >>>> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In >> rather a >>>> surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for Chrysler, the >> car >>>> manufacturer. It appears at >>>> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >>>> Here's one media account: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >>>> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >>>> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars >> and >>>> that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he goes >> on >>>> to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew your >> beer, >>>> let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your phone. We >> will >>>> build your car." It was the second appearance of the night for >> Dylan, >>>> if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" that played in >> the >>>> Chobani ad. >>>>> >>>>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >>>> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless >> you're an >>>> established star or have written something that brings in royalties >> >>>> over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the greatest >> saxophone >>>> players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a two-year hiatus and >> >>>> worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to support his family >> >>>> (James Brown, his original employer, was notoriously tight-fisted >> and >>>> cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >>>> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >>>>> >>>>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >>>> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first >> order, >>>> he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's ad. >> Compare >>>> to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt they were too >> >>>> oriented to producing a hit. >>>>> >>>>> I must say, this one puzzled me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >> > From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Mon Feb 3 07:57:27 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:57:27 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl Message-ID: <9c5tjrekpkge02l9l0fcihb0.1391443047497@email.android.com> C. Wright mills was accurate when he described the emerging post industrial power elites of america.. ?Celebrities are the means by which we are forced to consume... Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com?
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From: Peter Smagorinsky
Date:02/03/2014 9:45 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl
I included a link to the ad in my original post. -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Martin John Packer Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:13 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl I didn't see the ad (or the game!), but Detroit desperately needs any help it can get, or simply some attention in the public media. Martin On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Peter Hourdequin wrote: > I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. > > But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states.? In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the rust belt continues to rust. > > The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the US.? Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other viable jobs for those rust belt employees?? And where is the market that will drive these jobs?? > > I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real production seems pretty empty. > >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> >> Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and >> thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson >> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >> >> I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. >> I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that? sankwithout trace). >> Bruce R >> >> Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >>> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has >>> been offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians >>> how to make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But >>> Dylan has always been an iconoclast. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >>> Peter Hourdequin >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>> >>> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must >>> say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >>> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >>> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >>> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >>> songs.? On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when >>> he >>> sings: >>> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >>> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot >>> and they make you king. / " >>> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >>> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / >>> I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" >>> /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is >>> above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it >>> costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper >>> someplace else./ >>> >>> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >>> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." >>> >>> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >>> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >>> well.? Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred >>> day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed >>> feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part >>> of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument >>> that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>> >>>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >>>> >>>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >>> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In >>> rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for >>> Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at >>> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >>> Here's one media account: >>>> >>>> >>>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >>> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >>> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars >>> and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he >>> goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew >>> your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your >>> phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the >>> night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" >>> that played in the Chobani ad. >>>> >>>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >>> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're >>> an established star or have written something that brings in >>> royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the >>> greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a >>> two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to >>> support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was >>> notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >>> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >>>> >>>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >>> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first >>> order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's >>> ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt >>> they were too oriented to producing a hit. >>>> >>>> I must say, this one puzzled me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Mon Feb 3 07:59:34 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:59:34 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl Message-ID: I believe Bob Dylan is being used to go after or appeal to the people who write on this site...just as rappers and athletes are used to go after young black males and females in urban America. Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com?
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I included a link to the ad in my original post. -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Martin John Packer Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:13 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl I didn't see the ad (or the game!), but Detroit desperately needs any help it can get, or simply some attention in the public media. Martin On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Peter Hourdequin wrote: > I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. > > But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states.? In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the rust belt continues to rust. > > The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the US.? Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other viable jobs for those rust belt employees?? And where is the market that will drive these jobs?? > > I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real production seems pretty empty. > >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> >> Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and >> thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson >> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >> >> I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. >> I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that? sankwithout trace). >> Bruce R >> >> Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >>> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has >>> been offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians >>> how to make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But >>> Dylan has always been an iconoclast. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >>> Peter Hourdequin >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>> >>> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must >>> say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >>> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >>> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >>> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >>> songs.? On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when >>> he >>> sings: >>> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >>> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot >>> and they make you king. / " >>> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >>> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / >>> I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" >>> /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is >>> above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it >>> costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper >>> someplace else./ >>> >>> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >>> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." >>> >>> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >>> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >>> well.? Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred >>> day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed >>> feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part >>> of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument >>> that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>> >>>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >>>> >>>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >>> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In >>> rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for >>> Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at >>> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >>> Here's one media account: >>>> >>>> >>>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >>> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >>> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars >>> and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he >>> goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew >>> your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your >>> phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the >>> night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" >>> that played in the Chobani ad. >>>> >>>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >>> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're >>> an established star or have written something that brings in >>> royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the >>> greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a >>> two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to >>> support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was >>> notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >>> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >>>> >>>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >>> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first >>> order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's >>> ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt >>> they were too oriented to producing a hit. >>>> >>>> I must say, this one puzzled me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > From jennamcjenna@gmail.com Mon Feb 3 08:55:07 2014 From: jennamcjenna@gmail.com (Jenna McWilliams) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 11:55:07 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8DAD98F3-361B-4D23-B483-35139174900D@gmail.com> One thing we know for sure about Dylan is that he does what he can to surprise people. That he starred in that ridiculous commercial is to some extent typical, canonical Dylan. I hope that as they wrapped the commercial he thought with a smirk about how much his appearance would screw with people's heads. This year's Super Bowl was rife with cultural throwbacks. The Red Hot Chili Peppers, a thunderously popular band in the mid-1990s, performed as a sort of side-show to Bruno Mars, apparently the youngest person to ever headline the Super Bowl. The Red Hot Chili Peppers played half of one song--their most popular song ever, but popular 20 years ago. Laurence Fishburne reprised his role from The Matrix (1999) to sell cars. The American corporation Radio Shack tried to rebrand itself with a commercial that involved the phrase "Hey, Radio Shack--the 1980s called: They want their store back", followed by famous celebrities and characters from the 1980s (Hulk Hogan, ALF, the California Raisins, Mary Lou Retton) rushing in to strip the store clean. And on, and on, and on. To me, the commercials felt bizarrely tone deaf: Does patriotic/pop culture nostalgia really resonate with viewers in this cultural moment? I can't tell if other Super Bowl viewers felt the same...or if I've just been reading XMCA for long enough now that I've fallen out of step with American cultural shifts. Certainly the people I was watching the Super Bowl with seemed to want me to just stop yammering...but then again, if you show up to a Super Bowl party, it's generally bad form to engage in cultural critique. So I stopped talking and crammed some guacamole into my mouth. To be fair, it was excellent guacamole. Jenna McWilliams Cultural-Historical Research SIG Communications Chair Learning Sciences Program, Indiana University ~ jenmcwil@indiana.edu jennamcjenna@gmail.com On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe wrote: > I believe Bob Dylan is being used to go after or appeal to the people who write on this site...just as rappers and athletes are used to go after young black males and females in urban America. > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > President > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > www.mocombeian.com > www.readingroomcurriculum.com > >
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I included a link to the ad in my original post. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Martin John Packer > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:13 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > > I didn't see the ad (or the game!), but Detroit desperately needs any help it can get, or simply some attention in the public media. > > Martin > > On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Peter Hourdequin wrote: > >> I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. >> >> But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states. In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the rust belt continues to rust. >> >> The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the US. Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other viable jobs for those rust belt employees? And where is the market that will drive these jobs? >> >> I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real production seems pretty empty. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>> >>> Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and >>> thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM >>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>> >>> I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. >>> I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). >>> Bruce R >>> >>> Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >>>> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has >>>> been offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians >>>> how to make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But >>>> Dylan has always been an iconoclast. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >>>> Peter Hourdequin >>>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>>> >>>> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must >>>> say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >>>> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >>>> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >>>> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >>>> songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when >>>> he >>>> sings: >>>> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >>>> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot >>>> and they make you king. / " >>>> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >>>> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / >>>> I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" >>>> /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is >>>> above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it >>>> costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper >>>> someplace else./ >>>> >>>> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >>>> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." >>>> >>>> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >>>> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >>>> well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred >>>> day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed >>>> feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part >>>> of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument >>>> that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >>>>> >>>>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >>>> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In >>>> rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for >>>> Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at >>>> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >>>> Here's one media account: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >>>> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >>>> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars >>>> and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he >>>> goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew >>>> your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your >>>> phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the >>>> night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" >>>> that played in the Chobani ad. >>>>> >>>>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >>>> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're >>>> an established star or have written something that brings in >>>> royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the >>>> greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a >>>> two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to >>>> support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was >>>> notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >>>> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >>>>> >>>>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >>>> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first >>>> order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's >>>> ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt >>>> they were too oriented to producing a hit. >>>>> >>>>> I must say, this one puzzled me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >> > > > > From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 3 09:09:17 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: [LING-ETHNOG] 2 Chairs at Lancaster University Dept of Linguistics and English Language In-Reply-To: References: <989820f8e03d46f6bf19251967479381@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <9e0e627d5d0f41d0a494b04e805afc25@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> THIS IS A FORWARDED MESSAGE. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THE SENDER. READ THE MESSAGE CAREFULLY FOR INFORMATION ON THE ORIGINAL SENDER Dear linguistic ethnographers, could I draw your attention to this job ad, from the Dept of Linguistics and English Language at Lancaster University: http://hr-jobs.lancs.ac.uk/Vacancy.aspx?ref=A885 We are advertising for two Chairs in the following specific areas of Applied Linguistics, several of which could potentially match the interests of LEF people: * Discourse Studies * Language, Gender and Sexuality * Literacy Studies * Intercultural Communication * Educational Linguistics (second language teaching pedagogies from a sociocultural perspective, critical pedagogy, language teacher development, classroom research) It's a lovely place to work, with great colleagues :), and particularly so if these are the kinds of areas that you are interested in. Karin ====================================================================== Dr Karin Tusting Lecturer in Linguistics and Literacy Studies Department of Linguistics and English Language Lancaster University LA1 4YD 01524-510825 http://www.ling.lancs.ac.uk/profiles/Karin-Tusting/ From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Mon Feb 3 15:20:36 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 21:20:36 -0200 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl In-Reply-To: <9c5tjrekpkge02l9l0fcihb0.1391443047497@email.android.com> References: <9c5tjrekpkge02l9l0fcihb0.1391443047497@email.android.com> Message-ID: I am not a North American. I am a South American. Specifically a Chilean with a strong jewish heritage. So I have always looked at the role cars play in the American imaginary with some uneasiness and astonishment. (Most of all, because cars are one the most depredatory technologies ever mass-build in human history). When I lived in the USA the first thing that impressed me is that without a car there is almost no real everyday citizenship there. And by citizenship. I mean access to, for instance, public natural parks and to other public goods (e.g. schools, hospitals, and so on). Most generally, if you want to move more or less freely you need a car. Therefore I can understand why people equal cars and freedom (which is a reverse of the fact that they are dependent on cars, mostly). That's not true in many places of the world, certainly, where public transport is a better way to move people around. And where cars are (or were) more of a nuisance. (I lived two years in the USA without one as I just didn't like cars; my wife and I have to get one when my wife was expecting because of obvious reasons. Unfortunately I have kept the bad habit). Then, after 9/11, I learnt how cars meant more than citizenship. GM made their ads about "keep america rolling" right after the September attacks. Do you remember them? In many countries, using a national disgrace to support the commercial interest of a corporation would have backfired as people would have thought that they were being manipulated. Not in North America. Buying a car was now a way to overcome terrorism and recovering America's muscle and strength. The ad made by Bob Dylan is on the same sort of nationalistic genre. I don't know Dylan's track as a socially minded singer t but I can't imagine Victor Jara or Violeta Parra doing a commercial such as that one. Before leaving, I stopped by Detroit on my way to a summer school in the University of Michigan. Then, I understood even less. A full American iconic city provided testimony that public and private interests do not coincide. The GM headquarters dominated the skyline of a destroyed city. Then, I left the USA. And then, the crisis came along the American government bailout of the auto industry, including GM. By December 2013 GM was free again from USA taxpayer ownership whereas Detroit had filed for bankruptcy. I am not an economist. Some people say that Obama's role in the bailout of the auto industry was one of his cleverest moves. I assume that those saying it don't worry too much about the decay of many American cities such as Detroit. And now, this ad. To be honest, I am not surprised that Bob Dylan, other American icon, uses his symbolic charisma to convince the American public that they need "to keep America rolling", whatever that means. Certainly it does not resonate with me. I have never liked the use of national values to sell the produce of any industry. I don't like it here in Chile when we use it to refer to mining, winery or anything. At the end the ad, though, becomes openly chauvinistic... Sad that Dylan lends his credentials to that sort of discourse. But who knows, maybe he does not consider himself as somebody that appeals to an international audience. As I said, I am not a North American. I am a South American. That sort of stuff can't resonate with me. And then, I remember that there are other things "made in the USA" that are a real part of the "international arts" to compensate for this. At this moment, some of the best work of Phillip Seymour Hoffman comes to my mind. But also, many other american artists (specially poets) that I treasure as an important part of my own cultural background. On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe wrote: > C. Wright mills was accurate when he described the emerging post industrial power elites of america.. Celebrities are the means by which we are forced to consume... > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > President > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > www.mocombeian.com > www.readingroomcurriculum.com > >
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From: Peter Smagorinsky
Date:02/03/2014 9:45 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl
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I included a link to the ad in my original post. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Martin John Packer > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:13 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl > > I didn't see the ad (or the game!), but Detroit desperately needs any help it can get, or simply some attention in the public media. > > Martin > > On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Peter Hourdequin wrote: > >> I agree that "buy American" can play into nationalist sentiments which are often based on some version of patriotism. 'Buy local' would be the same thing on a community scale, but it's certainly a sentiment I am more comfortable with. I also agree with the idea of the rust belt producing different products, though it is hard to argue cars are not "socially useful," despite their awful environmental record. >> >> But there is also the significant fact that it is hard for any product to be produced without a market. And so it is in fact true that when Americans choose to buy their cars from elsewhere (a logical choice), this has an effect on the workers who once made cars in the states. In the absence of demand for other things these people can make, the rust belt continues to rust. >> >> The reality is also that trade policy which influences consumer choices much more than patriotic sentiment is not written by workers, and the version of capitalism that many in America have embraced has led to the hollowing out of America's manufacturing sector (though I think some sectors such as military hardware and aeronautics manufacture remain strong). Thus Dylan's argument that Americans support the production of one type of product (the automobile) in the US. Again, I share the confusion of hearing this message from Dylan on behalf of a giant American corporation. But where are the other viable jobs for those rust belt employees? And where is the market that will drive these jobs? >> >> I do think there are various kinds of patriotism, and perhaps the kind in which one has pride in something one's country produces is not the worst of them. On the contrary patriotic pride without any real production seems pretty empty. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>> >>> Bruce, you're put your finger on my uneasiness when viewing and >>> thinking about the ad. Thanks,Peter >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Robinson >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:05 AM >>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>> >>> I'm not really concerned about Dylan selling out (again) but disagree that 'Buy American' is something dissociated from American imperialism or is something to be supported. Its message is nationalist, implicitly protectionist and preaches that American workers have more in common with indigenous employers than with the Chinese or other third world workers this policy would put out of a job. Plus it's utopian to think people will put patriotism before buying a better and cheaper product from elsewhere. There are other solutions to rust belt unemployment like using the workers' skills to make socially useful products. >>> I'm not an American but ok would say the same thing about a 'Buy British' campaign (they was one in the 60-s that sankwithout trace). >>> Bruce R >>> >>> Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>> Dylan was also excoriated by his folk fan base when he first played >>>> electric instruments in the 1960s, so the "sellout" accusation has >>>> been offered before. I'm not in the business of telling musicians >>>> how to make a living, so am not making that judgment myself. But >>>> Dylan has always been an iconoclast. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of >>>> Peter Hourdequin >>>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:31 AM >>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Dylan at the super bowl >>>> >>>> I also found this puzzling when I read about it today, but I must >>>> say that my first reaction was mixed feelings. Patriotism has many >>>> varieties, and the "buy American" message is quite different from >>>> supporting American imperialism. Back on his 1983 album, Infidels, >>>> Dylan took a fairly straight-forward stand on these issues in two >>>> songs. On "Sweetheart like you" he paraphrases Samuel Johnson when >>>> he >>>> sings: >>>> "They say that patriotism is the last refuge / To which a scoundrel >>>> clings. / Steal a little and they throw you in jail, /Steal a lot >>>> and they make you king. / " >>>> Then on a later track entitled Union Sundown, he writes: >>>> "Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work. / >>>> I say, "Why you say that for / When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?" >>>> /They don't make nothin' here no more, / You know, capitalism is >>>> above the law. /It say, "It don't count 'less it sells." / When it >>>> costs too much to build it at home/ You just build it cheaper >>>> someplace else./ >>>> >>>> Well, it's sundown on the union /And what's made in the U.S.A. /Sure >>>> was a good idea / 'Til greed got in the way." >>>> >>>> In this light, Dylan's Super Bowl message is consistent with a >>>> pro-American worker stance that I think was shared by Pete Seeger as >>>> well. Still, shilling for an American automaker on the most sacred >>>> day of America's consumerist culture does leave me with mixed >>>> feeling about the artist and his role. But since Dylan has been part >>>> of American consumer culture for five decades, I think the argument >>>> that he is selling out some principle that he once avowed is less than convincing. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apologies to Pete Seeger...... >>>>> >>>>> For those of you who don't follow American football, the "Super >>>> Bowl"-the championship game-is the mecca of US advertising. In >>>> rather a surprise, Bob Dylan was featured in a lengthy ad for >>>> Chrysler, the car manufacturer. It appears at >>>> http://pitchfork.com/news/53797-watch-bob-dylan-stars-in-chryslers-super-bowl-commercial/. >>>> Here's one media account: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BOB DYLAN'S SUPER BOWL: Legendary musician Bob Dylan appeared in a >>>> Chrysler ad that had been kept tightly under wraps. Dylan walked >>>> through the streets of Detroit explaining that the city made cars >>>> and that "cars made America." In case you didn't get the point, he >>>> goes on to explain in his familiar raspy voice: "Let Germany brew >>>> your beer, let Switzerland make your watch, let Asia assemble your >>>> phone. We will build your car." It was the second appearance of the >>>> night for Dylan, if you count his popular 1960s tune of "I Want You" >>>> that played in the Chobani ad. >>>>> >>>>> Just to be clear: I don't begrudge musicians' efforts to make a >>>> living. I've read some musicians' autobiographies, and unless you're >>>> an established star or have written something that brings in >>>> royalties over time, life is a constant struggle. One of the >>>> greatest saxophone players of his generation, Maceo Parker, took a >>>> two-year hiatus and worked as a garbage collector to earn enough to >>>> support his family (James Brown, his original employer, was >>>> notoriously tight-fisted and cold-hearted with his band members). So, when musicians "sell out," >>>> often they're just trying to earn a steady living. >>>>> >>>>> Dylan's a little different, given his songwriting royalties, record >>>> sales, and concert revenues. Once a social critic of the first >>>> order, he went as patriotic mainstream as possible in last night's >>>> ad. Compare to Pete Seeger, who quit the Weavers because he felt >>>> they were too oriented to producing a hit. >>>>> >>>>> I must say, this one puzzled me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >> > > > > From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Mon Feb 3 15:28:44 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 21:28:44 -0200 Subject: [Xmca-l] The Dangers of Certainty: A Lesson From Auschwitz - NYTimes.com Message-ID: This piece at the NYT may trigger some interesting commentary here. David http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/the-dangers-of-certainty/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0 From lchcmike@gmail.com Mon Feb 3 16:30:21 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:30:21 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: Learning Cultures In-Reply-To: <73b2417da294e46879a0f987cb25905b2b5.20140203185910@mail74.atl51.rsgsv.net> References: <73b2417da294e46879a0f987cb25905b2b5.20140203185910@mail74.atl51.rsgsv.net> Message-ID: Of potential interest for New York readers, assuming they can make it through the snow! mike ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Learning Cultures Date: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:59 AM Subject: Learning Cultures To: mike cole Is this email not displaying correctly? 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See Registration instructions below. *Registration: **RSVP with your name, contact telephone number, and institutional affiliation to:* learningculturesinfo@gmail.com. If you register but find you cannot attend, please notify us of your absence so that we can plan accordingly. *Lunch* *is not provided*. Informal brownbag/Q&A sessions will be scheduled mid-day between a presentation of the Learning Cultures model and classroom visits. *Copyright (c) 2014 Learning Cultures, All rights reserved.* [image: Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp] unsubscribe from this list| update subscription preferences From goncu@uic.edu Mon Feb 3 19:37:39 2014 From: goncu@uic.edu (Goncu, Artin) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 21:37:39 -0600 Subject: [Xmca-l] Culture, nature, and children Message-ID: Dear All: I am writing to inquire if anybody knows of work that focuses on cultural differences in attributions of value/prejudice to different aspects of nature (e.g., owls bring bad luck). I am especially interested in research that looks at how such values are communicated to children either at home and in the community or in certain institutions such as schools, museums, etc. If you have anything to offer, please let me know off the net. Thank you very much, ag Artin Goncu, Ph.D Co-editor, Mind, Culture, and Activity:An International Journal Professor Emeritus, University of Illinois at Chicago College of Education M/C 147 1040 W. Harrison St. Chicago, IL 60607 From kellogg59@hanmail.net Mon Feb 3 22:20:19 2014 From: kellogg59@hanmail.net (kellogg) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 15:20:19 +0900 (KST) Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children Message-ID: <20140204152019.HM.b0000000008eHAN@kellogg59.wwl1601.hanmail.net> From smago@uga.edu Tue Feb 4 02:47:48 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 10:47:48 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <133cc9a192bf4fedaff38848519d30d4@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> It's pretty common in Native American perspectives to look to nature for exemplars. Here's one source: http://www.drstandley.com/nativeamerican_animal_medicine.shtml but it's also written about from a scholarly perspective, (e.g., Four Arrows, http://www.fielding.edu/whyFielding/about/facultyBio.aspx?Channel=%2FChannels%2FAdmissions&WorkflowItemID=86129da5-9bb3-4a93-8802-3fd5bd72f130). -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Goncu, Artin Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 10:38 PM To: rogoff; suzanne; xmca; frank kessel; gauvain Subject: [Xmca-l] Culture, nature, and children Dear All: I am writing to inquire if anybody knows of work that focuses on cultural differences in attributions of value/prejudice to different aspects of nature (e.g., owls bring bad luck). I am especially interested in research that looks at how such values are communicated to children either at home and in the community or in certain institutions such as schools, museums, etc. If you have anything to offer, please let me know off the net. Thank you very much, ag Artin Goncu, Ph.D Co-editor, Mind, Culture, and Activity:An International Journal Professor Emeritus, University of Illinois at Chicago College of Education M/C 147 1040 W. Harrison St. Chicago, IL 60607 From smago@uga.edu Tue Feb 4 02:47:48 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 10:47:48 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <133cc9a192bf4fedaff38848519d30d4@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> It's pretty common in Native American perspectives to look to nature for exemplars. Here's one source: http://www.drstandley.com/nativeamerican_animal_medicine.shtml but it's also written about from a scholarly perspective, (e.g., Four Arrows, http://www.fielding.edu/whyFielding/about/facultyBio.aspx?Channel=%2FChannels%2FAdmissions&WorkflowItemID=86129da5-9bb3-4a93-8802-3fd5bd72f130). -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Goncu, Artin Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 10:38 PM To: rogoff; suzanne; xmca; frank kessel; gauvain Subject: [Xmca-l] Culture, nature, and children Dear All: I am writing to inquire if anybody knows of work that focuses on cultural differences in attributions of value/prejudice to different aspects of nature (e.g., owls bring bad luck). I am especially interested in research that looks at how such values are communicated to children either at home and in the community or in certain institutions such as schools, museums, etc. If you have anything to offer, please let me know off the net. Thank you very much, ag Artin Goncu, Ph.D Co-editor, Mind, Culture, and Activity:An International Journal Professor Emeritus, University of Illinois at Chicago College of Education M/C 147 1040 W. Harrison St. Chicago, IL 60607 From smago@uga.edu Tue Feb 4 03:59:11 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:59:11 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Dangers of Certainty: A Lesson From Auschwitz - NYTimes.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4263703b389640ecbf3b51d56414098e@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Thanks David. I recently finished reading an extraordinary book, Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands: Europe between Stalin and Hitler, which relies on archival evidence recently available to detail the astounding rates of starvation and death under these two mass murderers. Like most people, I have always associated Hitler's regime with Auschwitz and concentration camps, but those were later developments; just as horrific were the giant pits into which Jews fell following a bullet to the head, executed in mass killings on an extraordinary scale. I recommend this book to anyone who is interested in the period from 1925 through the early 1950s, particularly in the Ukraine, Belarus, and the rest of the region between Germany and Russia during an era of endless political and ethnic annihilation. Stalin's systematic starvation of Ukrainian peasants in order to collectivize their harvest to feed the industrial working class makes for difficult, yet important reading. p -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:29 PM To: Activity eXtended Mind Culture Subject: [Xmca-l] The Dangers of Certainty: A Lesson From Auschwitz - NYTimes.com This piece at the NYT may trigger some interesting commentary here. David http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/the-dangers-of-certainty/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0 From haydizulfei@rocketmail.com Tue Feb 4 22:32:02 2014 From: haydizulfei@rocketmail.com (Haydi Zulfei) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 06:32:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children In-Reply-To: <20140204152019.HM.b0000000008eHAN@kellogg59.wwl1601.hanmail.net> References: <20140204152019.HM.b0000000008eHAN@kellogg59.wwl1601.hanmail.net> Message-ID: <1391581922.65480.YahooMailNeo@web173201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hi David Mine still blank ! You can act as before ; send to my personal address ; it will be ok ;?In any case I like and have to read it ; then?what remains to be worried about if I take just a second to?resend it . Best Haydi? From: kellogg To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 9:50:19 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children From dkellogg60@gmail.com Tue Feb 4 23:07:35 2014 From: dkellogg60@gmail.com (David Kellogg) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 23:07:35 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children In-Reply-To: <1391581922.65480.YahooMailNeo@web173201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140204152019.HM.b0000000008eHAN@kellogg59.wwl1601.hanmail.net> <1391581922.65480.YahooMailNeo@web173201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: (Haydi--thanks for the offer. I think, but I am not sure, that I solved the problem--with much generous help from Andy. If you don't see this on the list, we can try reposting again. For any other who are having this problem, what you have to do is to use some email provider that allows you the option of sending naked HTML text--e.g. "plain text" in gmail. My previous web-based Korean provider made this impossible.) Dear Professor Goncu: I just finished writing a book which is about one third fables, and while I was proofreading it I was struck by Vygotsky's distinction between lyrical treatments of nature and proverbial ones. To connect this with a concurrent thread, the late Jacob Bronowski, referred to by David Preiss, once wrote a poem (part of a Socratic dialogue) that goes like this (if I can remember it rightly): The force that makes the winter grow Its feathered hexagons of snow And drives the bee to match at home Their calculated honeycomb Is abacus and rose combined Their icy sweetness fills my mind Reminded that in thing and wing Lie taut yet living, coiled, a spring The abacus is science--concerned with nature. The rose is human values--that is, human art. But of course an abacus is a man made object, and a rose is a natural one (as Bronowski points out). Vygotsky finds something similar in the fable--the "lyrical" ones may be naturalistic in content, but they are formally not so much concerned with nature as with human artifice. The proverbial ones are formally "natural" (in the sense that they are evolved rather than designed in their grammar and their phonology). But in their content they are not simply concerned with human values but also with getting along with nature. To give a single example, in Korea the lyrical meaning of a tiger is a rather stupid, brutal animal, something like a jackass with claws, and the obvious analogy (for most Koreans) is a minor official, a village bully or a particularly thuggish and thick headed policeman. But proverbially, (that is, in proverbs, particularly in proverbs of Chinese origin) the tiger is a totem of natural strength, grace, beauty, and bravery. Here's an example from my own, anglophone, culture. In English we say "the early bird gets the worm", is almost a fable: the bird is not a bird and the worm is not a word. But we also say: "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise". This is less fabulous and more proverbial, more prosaic: the man is a man, and "early to bed" really means go to bed. Halliday, as usual, has an explanation. With "forest" cultures, folk wisdom tends to the quite literal: when you talk about catching worms, it's probably in the context of eating them or using them to fish. With "farming" cultures, the animals take on a much more human guise, and the proverbs become much more like fables. It is only with our own, "factory" culture that nature becomes something to drive your American made automobile through. David Kellogg Hankuk University of Foreign Studies On 4 February 2014 22:32, Haydi Zulfei wrote: > Hi David > Mine still blank ! You can act as before ; send to my personal address ; it will be ok ; In any case I like and have to read it ; then what remains to be worried about if I take just a second to resend it . > Best > Haydi > > From: kellogg > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" > Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 9:50:19 > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children From vygotsky@unm.edu Wed Feb 5 16:45:14 2014 From: vygotsky@unm.edu (Vera John-Steiner) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:45:14 -0700 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children In-Reply-To: References: <20140204152019.HM.b0000000008eHAN@kellogg59.wwl1601.hanmail.net> <1391581922.65480.YahooMailNeo@web173201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004001cf22d4$b3ed05a0$1bc710e0$@edu> David, Perhaps you have solved the problem and you could resend your message. Thanks, Vera -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Kellogg Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:08 AM To: Haydi Zulfei; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children (Haydi--thanks for the offer. I think, but I am not sure, that I solved the problem--with much generous help from Andy. If you don't see this on the list, we can try reposting again. For any other who are having this problem, what you have to do is to use some email provider that allows you the option of sending naked HTML text--e.g. "plain text" in gmail. My previous web-based Korean provider made this impossible.) Dear Professor Goncu: I just finished writing a book which is about one third fables, and while I was proofreading it I was struck by Vygotsky's distinction between lyrical treatments of nature and proverbial ones. To connect this with a concurrent thread, the late Jacob Bronowski, referred to by David Preiss, once wrote a poem (part of a Socratic dialogue) that goes like this (if I can remember it rightly): The force that makes the winter grow Its feathered hexagons of snow And drives the bee to match at home Their calculated honeycomb Is abacus and rose combined Their icy sweetness fills my mind Reminded that in thing and wing Lie taut yet living, coiled, a spring The abacus is science--concerned with nature. The rose is human values--that is, human art. But of course an abacus is a man made object, and a rose is a natural one (as Bronowski points out). Vygotsky finds something similar in the fable--the "lyrical" ones may be naturalistic in content, but they are formally not so much concerned with nature as with human artifice. The proverbial ones are formally "natural" (in the sense that they are evolved rather than designed in their grammar and their phonology). But in their content they are not simply concerned with human values but also with getting along with nature. To give a single example, in Korea the lyrical meaning of a tiger is a rather stupid, brutal animal, something like a jackass with claws, and the obvious analogy (for most Koreans) is a minor official, a village bully or a particularly thuggish and thick headed policeman. But proverbially, (that is, in proverbs, particularly in proverbs of Chinese origin) the tiger is a totem of natural strength, grace, beauty, and bravery. Here's an example from my own, anglophone, culture. In English we say "the early bird gets the worm", is almost a fable: the bird is not a bird and the worm is not a word. But we also say: "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise". This is less fabulous and more proverbial, more prosaic: the man is a man, and "early to bed" really means go to bed. Halliday, as usual, has an explanation. With "forest" cultures, folk wisdom tends to the quite literal: when you talk about catching worms, it's probably in the context of eating them or using them to fish. With "farming" cultures, the animals take on a much more human guise, and the proverbs become much more like fables. It is only with our own, "factory" culture that nature becomes something to drive your American made automobile through. David Kellogg Hankuk University of Foreign Studies On 4 February 2014 22:32, Haydi Zulfei wrote: > Hi David > Mine still blank ! You can act as before ; send to my personal address ; it will be ok ; In any case I like and have to read it ; then what remains to be worried about if I take just a second to resend it . > Best > Haydi > > From: kellogg > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" > Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 9:50:19 > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children From dkellogg60@gmail.com Wed Feb 5 17:14:11 2014 From: dkellogg60@gmail.com (David Kellogg) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:14:11 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children In-Reply-To: <004001cf22d4$b3ed05a0$1bc710e0$@edu> References: <20140204152019.HM.b0000000008eHAN@kellogg59.wwl1601.hanmail.net> <1391581922.65480.YahooMailNeo@web173201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <004001cf22d4$b3ed05a0$1bc710e0$@edu> Message-ID: (It works, Vera! The previous thread on Boal and Brecht was the one that Haydi reposted. The letter I posted to Professor Goncu was the only other thing I wrote.) As we all know, Rousseau was a great champion of nature and not so big on culture. But the other thing we all know about Rousseau is that he wrote that a child is not a miniature adult. It has always seemed to me that these two things are essentially in contradiction, since the idea of a qualitatively different period called childhood is not particularly natural and certainly doesn't exist amongst animals. So I have been re-reading Emile. I haven't found the exact quote where Rousseau talks about the miniature adult, but I have found enough to make me think that Rousseau didn't have in mind what we have in mind when we quote him. "The man must be considered in the man, and the child in the child. To assign each his place and settle him in it, to order the human passions according to man's consitutition is all that we can do for his well-being." p. 80. This sounds very child-centred, doesn't it. It's anything but! Rousseau is arguing against John Locke, who was the main proponent of what would be called child centred education today. Locke famously believed that the child was a tabula rasa, a blank slate, and that educating the child was largely a matter of reasoning with the child, so that laws of reason would be written on that blank slate. Rousseau considers this folly: we only need reason when we are strong enough to fend for ourselves. But the child is, and should be, weak and dependent. Rousseau says: "Nature wants children to be children before being men. If we want to pervert this order, we shall produce precocious fruits which will be immature and insipid and will not be long in rotting. We shall have young doctors (that is, "young Ph.D.s"--DK) and old children. Childhood has its ways of seeing, thinking and feeling which are proper to it. Nothing is less sensible than to want to substitute ours for theirs, and I would like as little to insist that a ten-year-old be five feet tall as that he possess judgement. Actually, what would reason do for him at that age? It is the bridle of strength, and the child does not need this bridle." p. 90 What bridle does the child need? Well, says Rousseau, the child needs to obey. But what the child must obey is not AUTHORITY--because authority is not a natural law. What the child needs to obey is FORCE. "Let him know only that he is weak and you are strong, that by his condition and yours he is necessarily at your mercy. Let him know it, learn it, feel it. Let his haughty head at an early date feel the harsh yoke which nature imposes on man, the heavey yoke of necessity under which every finite being must bend." p. 91. Rousseau's point is that the child must understand the power of adults as a completely natural power and not as one based in social law or human reason. As you can see, this is not what we would call child-centred education today! Rousseau does have a kind of merciless consistency though. His argument for making education pleasant for children goes something like this. Over half of the children we are now teaching will never grow up (because of the very high infant mortality rates and the low life expectancy in eighteenth century Europe). So we need to make education valuable and interesting year by year, in case they die before they actually get a job. This is the argument called "surrender value" by Michael West when he realized that most fourth graders in Bengal at the turn of the nineteenth century would never make it to eight grade, and he used it to promote READING, since this was a practical skill that would make a difference to Bengali farmers and conversation was not. It seems to me that this explains why nature needs to be sentimentalized by culture. The hard truth, of which Rousseau is fully aware, is that nature is a child abuser (and it rather explains why he was so willing to donate his own children to a foundling asylum!). When I was a kid, we had a little ditty that went like this: Don't worry if your job is small And your rewards are few Remember that the mighty oak Was once a nut like you! Being kids, we thought this was hilarious--that it was a very clever way indeed of calling your best friend crazy. We were blissfully unaware of the "surrender value" idea--we saw education as a long term investment and not as a quick 'in and out" speculation. So of course the joke was on us; very few of us managed to get big jobs or substantial rewards, and none of us are mighty spreading oaks today. Most of us are not actually dead yet though! David Kellogg Hankuk University of Education Rousseau, J.-J. (1762/1978). Emile, or, On Education. New York: Harper Collins. On 5 February 2014 16:45, Vera John-Steiner wrote: > David, > Perhaps you have solved the problem and you could resend your message. > Thanks, > Vera > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu > [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Kellogg > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:08 AM > To: Haydi Zulfei; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children > > (Haydi--thanks for the offer. I think, but I am not sure, that I solved the > problem--with much generous help from Andy. If you don't see this on the > list, we can try reposting again. For any other who are having this problem, > what you have to do is to use some email provider that allows you the option > of sending naked HTML text--e.g. > "plain text" in gmail. My previous web-based Korean provider made this > impossible.) > > Dear Professor Goncu: > > I just finished writing a book which is about one third fables, and while I > was proofreading it I was struck by Vygotsky's distinction between lyrical > treatments of nature and proverbial ones. > > To connect this with a concurrent thread, the late Jacob Bronowski, referred > to by David Preiss, once wrote a poem (part of a Socratic > dialogue) that goes like this (if I can remember it rightly): > > The force that makes the winter grow > Its feathered hexagons of snow > And drives the bee to match at home > Their calculated honeycomb > Is abacus and rose combined > Their icy sweetness fills my mind > Reminded that in thing and wing > Lie taut yet living, coiled, a spring > > The abacus is science--concerned with nature. The rose is human values--that > is, human art. But of course an abacus is a man made object, and a rose is a > natural one (as Bronowski points out). > > Vygotsky finds something similar in the fable--the "lyrical" ones may be > naturalistic in content, but they are formally not so much concerned with > nature as with human artifice. The proverbial ones are formally "natural" > (in the sense that they are evolved rather than designed in their grammar > and their phonology). But in their content they are not simply concerned > with human values but also with getting along with nature. > > To give a single example, in Korea the lyrical meaning of a tiger is a > rather stupid, brutal animal, something like a jackass with claws, and the > obvious analogy (for most Koreans) is a minor official, a village bully or a > particularly thuggish and thick headed policeman. But proverbially, (that > is, in proverbs, particularly in proverbs of Chinese origin) the tiger is a > totem of natural strength, grace, beauty, and bravery. > > Here's an example from my own, anglophone, culture. In English we say "the > early bird gets the worm", is almost a fable: the bird is not a bird and the > worm is not a word. But we also say: "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a > man healthy, wealthy, and wise". This is less fabulous and more proverbial, > more prosaic: the man is a man, and "early to bed" really means go to bed. > > Halliday, as usual, has an explanation. With "forest" cultures, folk wisdom > tends to the quite literal: when you talk about catching worms, it's > probably in the context of eating them or using them to fish. > With "farming" cultures, the animals take on a much more human guise, and > the proverbs become much more like fables. It is only with our own, > "factory" culture that nature becomes something to drive your American made > automobile through. > > David Kellogg > Hankuk University of Foreign Studies > > > On 4 February 2014 22:32, Haydi Zulfei wrote: >> Hi David >> Mine still blank ! You can act as before ; send to my personal address ; > it will be ok ; In any case I like and have to read it ; then what remains > to be worried about if I take just a second to resend it . >> Best >> Haydi >> >> From: kellogg >> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" >> Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 9:50:19 >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children > From goncu@uic.edu Wed Feb 5 18:23:32 2014 From: goncu@uic.edu (Goncu, Artin) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 20:23:32 -0600 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children In-Reply-To: References: <20140204152019.HM.b0000000008eHAN@kellogg59.wwl1601.hanmail.net> <1391581922.65480.YahooMailNeo@web173201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0ba7e98e4c2d24046c03bf11f3dae129.squirrel@webmail.uic.edu> Thank you, David, and Peter previously. Best, ag On Wed, February 5, 2014 1:07 am, David Kellogg wrote: > (Haydi--thanks for the offer. I think, but I am not sure, that I > solved the problem--with much generous help from Andy. If you don't > see this on the list, we can try reposting again. For any other who > are having this problem, what you have to do is to use some email > provider that allows you the option of sending naked HTML text--e.g. > "plain text" in gmail. My previous web-based Korean provider made this > impossible.) > > Dear Professor Goncu: > > I just finished writing a book which is about one third fables, and > while I was proofreading it I was struck by Vygotsky's distinction > between lyrical treatments of nature and proverbial ones. > > To connect this with a concurrent thread, the late Jacob Bronowski, > referred to by David Preiss, once wrote a poem (part of a Socratic > dialogue) that goes like this (if I can remember it rightly): > > The force that makes the winter grow > Its feathered hexagons of snow > And drives the bee to match at home > Their calculated honeycomb > Is abacus and rose combined > Their icy sweetness fills my mind > Reminded that in thing and wing > Lie taut yet living, coiled, a spring > > The abacus is science--concerned with nature. The rose is human > values--that is, human art. But of course an abacus is a man made > object, and a rose is a natural one (as Bronowski points out). > > Vygotsky finds something similar in the fable--the "lyrical" ones may > be naturalistic in content, but they are formally not so much > concerned with nature as with human artifice. The proverbial ones are > formally "natural" (in the sense that they are evolved rather than > designed in their grammar and their phonology). But in their content > they are not simply concerned with human values but also with getting > along with nature. > > To give a single example, in Korea the lyrical meaning of a tiger is a > rather stupid, brutal animal, something like a jackass with claws, and > the obvious analogy (for most Koreans) is a minor official, a village > bully or a particularly thuggish and thick headed policeman. But > proverbially, (that is, in proverbs, particularly in proverbs of > Chinese origin) the tiger is a totem of natural strength, grace, > beauty, and bravery. > > Here's an example from my own, anglophone, culture. In English we say > "the early bird gets the worm", is almost a fable: the bird is not a > bird and the worm is not a word. But we also say: "Early to bed, early > to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise". This is less > fabulous and more proverbial, more prosaic: the man is a man, and > "early to bed" really means go to bed. > > Halliday, as usual, has an explanation. With "forest" cultures, folk > wisdom tends to the quite literal: when you talk about catching worms, > it's probably in the context of eating them or using them to fish. > With "farming" cultures, the animals take on a much more human guise, > and the proverbs become much more like fables. It is only with our > own, "factory" culture that nature becomes something to drive your > American made automobile through. > > David Kellogg > Hankuk University of Foreign Studies > > > On 4 February 2014 22:32, Haydi Zulfei wrote: >> Hi David >> Mine still blank ! You can act as before ; send to my personal address ; >> it will be ok ; In any case I like and have to read it ; then what >> remains to be worried about if I take just a second to resend it . >> Best >> Haydi >> >> From: kellogg >> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" >> Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 9:50:19 >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Culture, nature, and children > > Artin Goncu, Ph.D Co-editor, Mind, Culture, and Activity:An International Journal Professor Emeritus, University of Illinois at Chicago College of Education M/C 147 1040 W. Harrison St. Chicago, IL 60607 From lchcmike@gmail.com Thu Feb 6 07:56:25 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 07:56:25 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Do not watch! Message-ID: Dear Colleagues-- Please warn our Russian colleagues that under no conditions should they watch the Colbert show interview with those two Russian young women. Colbert stupidly had translation both directions so its very easy to understand in two languages and people might get upset. To be sure to avoid this tragic mistake, put the following url in your "never open this site" folder. http://pitchfork.com/news/53841-watch-pussy-riot-on-the-colbert-report/ mike PS-- And don't go see Dallas Buyers Club either. From lchcmike@gmail.com Thu Feb 6 17:20:26 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:20:26 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Tool use among herons, in color Message-ID: To add to our growing collection that humans are subhuman, as if the evidence were not on the front pages were not enough. From Radiolab website Enjoy. mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PastedGraphic-1.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 1725394 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://mailman.ucsd.edu/mailman/private/xmca-l/attachments/20140206/5b0d90d4/attachment-0001.tiff From huw.softdesigns@gmail.com Fri Feb 7 06:30:03 2014 From: huw.softdesigns@gmail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:30:03 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Do not watch! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a UK resident I'm deprived of the freedom of not not watching this talk show. So any insightful and profound lampooning and extolling will, alas, pass me by. On the subject of eastern strife, its interesting how a new noun may help raise consciousness amongst some Ukrainians. "Titushko" sounds a bit more like a sneeze than a thug... perhaps the noun-symbol is still evolving ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26066837). Its not clear to me whether joining EU will be a "better" option for Ukranians but atleast they're enforcing their own decisions. Some very real strife going on, evidenced by the skilled cohesion of the protestors -- I loved the clip of welders demonstrating their skills and commitments working on the barricades. ( https://twitter.com/furgulcast/status/410881169270403072/photo/1) Do we need oppressors to help coil the springs of action (and consciousness)? In Europe 2014 is a centenary year, suggesting that centenaries are more important than the events remembered. We have the lowest common denominator (I think most Europeans can count to one hundred) with the state of the art of gloss -- shiny bright 4th hand experience filtered through the number 100. The bits and pieces of 1914 media I've seen have been rather good, however, which only puts to shame the centenary branch that these thoughtful life embracing efforts stem from. And what will the Chinese do with their horse? Myth is a large part of the media there is it not? Huw On 6 February 2014 15:56, mike cole wrote: > Dear Colleagues-- > > Please warn our Russian colleagues that under no conditions should they > watch the Colbert show interview with those two Russian young > women. Colbert stupidly had translation both directions so its very easy to > understand in two languages and people might get upset. > > To be sure to avoid this tragic mistake, put the following url in your > "never open this site" folder. > http://pitchfork.com/news/53841-watch-pussy-riot-on-the-colbert-report/ > > > mike > > PS-- And don't go see Dallas Buyers Club either. > From huw.softdesigns@gmail.com Fri Feb 7 06:30:03 2014 From: huw.softdesigns@gmail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:30:03 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Do not watch! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a UK resident I'm deprived of the freedom of not not watching this talk show. So any insightful and profound lampooning and extolling will, alas, pass me by. On the subject of eastern strife, its interesting how a new noun may help raise consciousness amongst some Ukrainians. "Titushko" sounds a bit more like a sneeze than a thug... perhaps the noun-symbol is still evolving ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26066837). Its not clear to me whether joining EU will be a "better" option for Ukranians but atleast they're enforcing their own decisions. Some very real strife going on, evidenced by the skilled cohesion of the protestors -- I loved the clip of welders demonstrating their skills and commitments working on the barricades. ( https://twitter.com/furgulcast/status/410881169270403072/photo/1) Do we need oppressors to help coil the springs of action (and consciousness)? In Europe 2014 is a centenary year, suggesting that centenaries are more important than the events remembered. We have the lowest common denominator (I think most Europeans can count to one hundred) with the state of the art of gloss -- shiny bright 4th hand experience filtered through the number 100. The bits and pieces of 1914 media I've seen have been rather good, however, which only puts to shame the centenary branch that these thoughtful life embracing efforts stem from. And what will the Chinese do with their horse? Myth is a large part of the media there is it not? Huw On 6 February 2014 15:56, mike cole wrote: > Dear Colleagues-- > > Please warn our Russian colleagues that under no conditions should they > watch the Colbert show interview with those two Russian young > women. Colbert stupidly had translation both directions so its very easy to > understand in two languages and people might get upset. > > To be sure to avoid this tragic mistake, put the following url in your > "never open this site" folder. > http://pitchfork.com/news/53841-watch-pussy-riot-on-the-colbert-report/ > > > mike > > PS-- And don't go see Dallas Buyers Club either. > From lchcmike@gmail.com Fri Feb 7 08:41:45 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 08:41:45 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News Message-ID: Our colleague and friend, Volodya Zinchenko, has died. He will be sorely missed by his many friends and by world wide scholarly efforts to understand the nature of human nature. Attached is an appreciation of his work that Jim Wertsch and I wrote not too long ago. Many of his writings can be found in *Soviet Psychology* and *Journal of Russian and East European Psychology*. Words fall silent in the void he leaves behind. mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: vpz final.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 442894 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://mailman.ucsd.edu/mailman/private/xmca-l/attachments/20140207/bbb91d16/attachment.pdf From ulvi.icil@gmail.com Fri Feb 7 09:17:04 2014 From: ulvi.icil@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?VWx2aSDEsMOnaWw=?=) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 19:17:04 +0200 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great loss. Ulvi 2014-02-07 18:41 GMT+02:00 mike cole : > Our colleague and friend, Volodya Zinchenko, has died. He will be sorely > missed by his many friends and by world wide scholarly efforts to > understand the nature of human nature. Attached is an appreciation of his > work that Jim Wertsch and I wrote not too long ago. Many of his > writings can be found in *Soviet Psychology* and *Journal of Russian and > East European Psychology*. > > Words fall silent in the void he leaves behind. > mike > From nataliag@sfu.ca Fri Feb 7 09:55:43 2014 From: nataliag@sfu.ca (Natalia Gajdamaschko) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:55:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <844276408.8557661.1391795743446.JavaMail.root@sfu.ca> Very sad news. He was my teacher. He was the best! ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike cole" To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 8:41:45 AM Subject: [Xmca-l] Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News Our colleague and friend, Volodya Zinchenko, has died. He will be sorely missed by his many friends and by world wide scholarly efforts to understand the nature of human nature. Attached is an appreciation of his work that Jim Wertsch and I wrote not too long ago. Many of his writings can be found in *Soviet Psychology* and *Journal of Russian and East European Psychology*. Words fall silent in the void he leaves behind. mike From nataliag@sfu.ca Fri Feb 7 09:55:43 2014 From: nataliag@sfu.ca (Natalia Gajdamaschko) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:55:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <844276408.8557661.1391795743446.JavaMail.root@sfu.ca> Very sad news. He was my teacher. He was the best! ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike cole" To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 8:41:45 AM Subject: [Xmca-l] Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News Our colleague and friend, Volodya Zinchenko, has died. He will be sorely missed by his many friends and by world wide scholarly efforts to understand the nature of human nature. Attached is an appreciation of his work that Jim Wertsch and I wrote not too long ago. Many of his writings can be found in *Soviet Psychology* and *Journal of Russian and East European Psychology*. Words fall silent in the void he leaves behind. mike From ellampert@gmail.com Fri Feb 7 10:55:55 2014 From: ellampert@gmail.com (Elina Lampert-Shepel) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:55:55 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News In-Reply-To: <844276408.8557661.1391795743446.JavaMail.root@sfu.ca> References: <844276408.8557661.1391795743446.JavaMail.root@sfu.ca> Message-ID: Sad news, indeed. No matter what interested his tireless creative mind and refulgent soul - general psychology, ergonomics, philosophy, or poetical anthropology - it was always deeply humanistic and personal. His jokes and "fables" will live as long as those who were privileged to be listeners will remember them. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Natalia Gajdamaschko wrote: > Very sad news. He was my teacher. He was the best! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike cole" > To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu > Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 8:41:45 AM > Subject: [Xmca-l] Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News > > Our colleague and friend, Volodya Zinchenko, has died. He will be sorely > missed by his many friends and by world wide scholarly efforts to > understand the nature of human nature. Attached is an appreciation of his > work that Jim Wertsch and I wrote not too long ago. Many of his > writings can be found in *Soviet Psychology* and *Journal of Russian and > East European Psychology*. > > Words fall silent in the void he leaves behind. > mike > From lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Fri Feb 7 11:31:01 2014 From: lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org (Lois Holzman) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:31:01 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News In-Reply-To: References: <844276408.8557661.1391795743446.JavaMail.root@sfu.ca> Message-ID: That's lovely, Elina, and it resonates. I'm happy to have met and conversed with him once about every ten years since the late 70s. He always gave something new to ponder. Lois Lois Holzman Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy 104-106 South Oxford Street Brooklyn, New York 11217 Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 Fax +1.718.797.3966 lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Social Media Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter Blogs Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News Websites Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World All Stars Project On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Elina Lampert-Shepel wrote: > Sad news, indeed. No matter what interested his tireless creative mind and > refulgent soul - general psychology, ergonomics, philosophy, or poetical > anthropology - it was always deeply humanistic and personal. His jokes and > "fables" will live as long as those who were privileged to be listeners > will remember them. > > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Natalia Gajdamaschko wrote: > >> Very sad news. He was my teacher. He was the best! >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mike cole" >> To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu >> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 8:41:45 AM >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News >> >> Our colleague and friend, Volodya Zinchenko, has died. He will be sorely >> missed by his many friends and by world wide scholarly efforts to >> understand the nature of human nature. Attached is an appreciation of his >> work that Jim Wertsch and I wrote not too long ago. Many of his >> writings can be found in *Soviet Psychology* and *Journal of Russian and >> East European Psychology*. >> >> Words fall silent in the void he leaves behind. >> mike >> From vklinin@informatik.umu.se Fri Feb 7 12:21:10 2014 From: vklinin@informatik.umu.se (Victor Kaptelinin) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:21:10 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News In-Reply-To: References: <844276408.8557661.1391795743446.JavaMail.root@sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20140207212110.Horde.dDfxVrFpdRFS9UA2QGYQL-A@www8.informatik.umu.se> It is such a huge loss. With his death an era in Russian psychology is over. Not only was he an incredibly deep, creative, engaging, and powerful thinker, he also had an incredibly deep, creative, engaging, and powerful personality. I am indebted to Vladimir Petrovich, my teacher, so much and in so many different ways; and I am sure many, many people feel the same. Victor Citerar Lois Holzman : > That's lovely, Elina, and it resonates. I'm happy to have met and > conversed with him once about every ten years since the late 70s. He > always gave something new to ponder. > Lois > > Lois Holzman > Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy > 104-106 South Oxford Street > Brooklyn, New York 11217 > Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX > Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 > Fax +1.718.797.3966 > lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org > Social Media > Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter > Blogs > Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News > Websites > Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World > All Stars Project > > > > On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Elina Lampert-Shepel wrote: > >> Sad news, indeed. No matter what interested his tireless creative mind and >> refulgent soul - general psychology, ergonomics, philosophy, or poetical >> anthropology - it was always deeply humanistic and personal. His jokes and >> "fables" will live as long as those who were privileged to be listeners >> will remember them. >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Natalia Gajdamaschko >> wrote: >> >>> Very sad news. He was my teacher. He was the best! >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "mike cole" >>> To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu >>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 8:41:45 AM >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News >>> >>> Our colleague and friend, Volodya Zinchenko, has died. He will be sorely >>> missed by his many friends and by world wide scholarly efforts to >>> understand the nature of human nature. Attached is an appreciation of his >>> work that Jim Wertsch and I wrote not too long ago. Many of his >>> writings can be found in *Soviet Psychology* and *Journal of Russian and >>> East European Psychology*. >>> >>> Words fall silent in the void he leaves behind. >>> mike >>> From lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Fri Feb 7 14:21:05 2014 From: lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org (Lois Holzman) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 17:21:05 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News In-Reply-To: References: <844276408.8557661.1391795743446.JavaMail.root@sfu.ca> Message-ID: <907AADF9-0771-4D85-867E-967F1EADAC04@eastsideinstitute.org> That's lovely, Elina, and it resonates. I'm happy to have met and conversed with him once about every ten years since the late 70s. He always gave something new to ponder. Lois Lois Holzman Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy 104-106 South Oxford Street Brooklyn, New York 11217 Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 Fax +1.718.797.3966 lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Social Media Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter Blogs Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News Websites Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World All Stars Project On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Elina Lampert-Shepel wrote: > Sad news, indeed. No matter what interested his tireless creative mind and > refulgent soul - general psychology, ergonomics, philosophy, or poetical > anthropology - it was always deeply humanistic and personal. His jokes and > "fables" will live as long as those who were privileged to be listeners > will remember them. > > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Natalia Gajdamaschko wrote: > >> Very sad news. He was my teacher. He was the best! >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mike cole" >> To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu >> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 8:41:45 AM >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko. Sad News >> >> Our colleague and friend, Volodya Zinchenko, has died. He will be sorely >> missed by his many friends and by world wide scholarly efforts to >> understand the nature of human nature. Attached is an appreciation of his >> work that Jim Wertsch and I wrote not too long ago. Many of his >> writings can be found in *Soviet Psychology* and *Journal of Russian and >> East European Psychology*. >> >> Words fall silent in the void he leaves behind. >> mike >> From lchcmike@gmail.com Sat Feb 8 12:44:33 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:44:33 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Colleagues-- At present there is a severe crisis affecting our colleagues at the Institute of Psychololgy, Academy of Education, in Mosow. I am forwarding a petition that is circulating in Russian. It seems to me that the world of socio-cultural-historical psychology might want to circulate a petition in English and send it to the proper Russian authorities. I am completely tied down with other obligations at the moment, but some some oneS from this list, the ISCAR list, the AERA lists would get a petition going around, it would be a good thing to do. Thank you Bella for forwarding this translation. For those of you know russian, you can vote on the petition by visiting the Russian cultural-historical facebook page. Help please. mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Thank you Peter. Now to start spreading the word. Mike On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX > An American Educational Research Association List If you need assistance > with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net. > From lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Sat Feb 8 14:09:00 2014 From: lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org (Lois Holzman) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 17:09:00 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Russian Academy of Education: Keep the Institute of Psychology open - Sign the Petition! In-Reply-To: References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Signed and spreading the word Lois Lois Holzman Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy 104-106 South Oxford Street Brooklyn, New York 11217 Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 Fax +1.718.797.3966 lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Social Media Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter Blogs Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News Websites Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World All Stars Project On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:01 PM, mike cole wrote: > Thank you Peter. > Now to start spreading the word. > Mike > > On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX >> An American Educational Research Association List If you need assistance >> with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net. >> From lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Sat Feb 8 14:09:00 2014 From: lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org (Lois Holzman) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 17:09:00 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Russian Academy of Education: Keep the Institute of Psychology open - Sign the Petition! In-Reply-To: References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Signed and spreading the word Lois Lois Holzman Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy 104-106 South Oxford Street Brooklyn, New York 11217 Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 Fax +1.718.797.3966 lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Social Media Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter Blogs Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News Websites Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World All Stars Project On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:01 PM, mike cole wrote: > Thank you Peter. > Now to start spreading the word. > Mike > > On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX >> An American Educational Research Association List If you need assistance >> with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net. >> From huw.softdesigns@gmail.com Sat Feb 8 15:30:29 2014 From: huw.softdesigns@gmail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 23:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Russian Academy of Education: Keep the Institute of Psychology open - Sign the Petition! In-Reply-To: References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: It seems that it is the building rather than the institute that is focal point of concern. What are the cultural politics of heritage buildings in Russia, do they have any accord with UNESCO for example? http://en.unesco.org/themes/protecting-our-heritage-and-fostering-creativity 100 years is not typically remarkable duration for European heritage buildings but for a site of cultural practice situated within (and perhaps in the face of) the turbulence of Russian history does seem remarkable. 100 years seems like a good time to recognise some further status. Perhaps the petition should be directed to that? i.e. to recognising its cultural heritage and ongoing role. In its current form, I am not quite sure what "keep it open" means. My reflections were that something more specific and positive might be good. Best, Huw On 8 February 2014 22:09, Lois Holzman wrote: > Signed and spreading the word > Lois > > > Lois Holzman > Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy > 104-106 South Oxford Street > Brooklyn, New York 11217 > Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX > Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 > Fax +1.718.797.3966 > lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org > Social Media > Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter > Blogs > Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News > Websites > Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World > All Stars Project > > > > On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:01 PM, mike cole wrote: > > > Thank you Peter. > > Now to start spreading the word. > > Mike > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > > >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX > >> An American Educational Research Association List If you need assistance > >> with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net > . > >> > > From huw.softdesigns@gmail.com Sat Feb 8 15:30:29 2014 From: huw.softdesigns@gmail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 23:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Russian Academy of Education: Keep the Institute of Psychology open - Sign the Petition! In-Reply-To: References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: It seems that it is the building rather than the institute that is focal point of concern. What are the cultural politics of heritage buildings in Russia, do they have any accord with UNESCO for example? http://en.unesco.org/themes/protecting-our-heritage-and-fostering-creativity 100 years is not typically remarkable duration for European heritage buildings but for a site of cultural practice situated within (and perhaps in the face of) the turbulence of Russian history does seem remarkable. 100 years seems like a good time to recognise some further status. Perhaps the petition should be directed to that? i.e. to recognising its cultural heritage and ongoing role. In its current form, I am not quite sure what "keep it open" means. My reflections were that something more specific and positive might be good. Best, Huw On 8 February 2014 22:09, Lois Holzman wrote: > Signed and spreading the word > Lois > > > Lois Holzman > Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy > 104-106 South Oxford Street > Brooklyn, New York 11217 > Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX > Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 > Fax +1.718.797.3966 > lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org > Social Media > Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter > Blogs > Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News > Websites > Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World > All Stars Project > > > > On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:01 PM, mike cole wrote: > > > Thank you Peter. > > Now to start spreading the word. > > Mike > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > > >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX > >> An American Educational Research Association List If you need assistance > >> with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net > . > >> > > From lchcmike@gmail.com Sat Feb 8 17:11:26 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 17:11:26 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Russian Academy of Education: Keep the Institute of Psychology open - Sign the Petition! In-Reply-To: References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: You may well be correct, Huw. But this is the petition the Russians have chosen, so it seems it will have to do. I am betting on the Oligarchs to build a fancy hotel with expensive restaurants and clothing stores on the ground floor. I mean, what if G. Washington had built Teacher's College in Times Square (out in the sticks at the time)? Where would it be today? But I signed the petition. mike On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Huw Lloyd wrote: > It seems that it is the building rather than the institute that is focal > point of concern. What are the cultural politics of heritage buildings in > Russia, do they have any accord with UNESCO for example? > > > http://en.unesco.org/themes/protecting-our-heritage-and-fostering-creativity > > 100 years is not typically remarkable duration for European heritage > buildings but for a site of cultural practice situated within (and perhaps > in the face of) the turbulence of Russian history does seem remarkable. > > 100 years seems like a good time to recognise some further status. > Perhaps the petition should be directed to that? i.e. to recognising its > cultural heritage and ongoing role. > > In its current form, I am not quite sure what "keep it open" means. My > reflections were that something more specific and positive might be good. > > Best, > Huw > > > On 8 February 2014 22:09, Lois Holzman wrote: > >> Signed and spreading the word >> Lois >> >> >> Lois Holzman >> Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy >> 104-106 South Oxford Street >> Brooklyn, New York 11217 >> Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX >> Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 >> Fax +1.718.797.3966 >> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org >> Social Media >> Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter >> Blogs >> Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News >> Websites >> Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World >> All Stars Project >> >> >> >> On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:01 PM, mike cole wrote: >> >> > Thank you Peter. >> > Now to start spreading the word. >> > Mike >> > >> > On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> > >> >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX >> >> An American Educational Research Association List If you need >> assistance >> >> with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net >> . >> >> >> >> > From lchcmike@gmail.com Sat Feb 8 17:11:26 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 17:11:26 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Russian Academy of Education: Keep the Institute of Psychology open - Sign the Petition! In-Reply-To: References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: You may well be correct, Huw. But this is the petition the Russians have chosen, so it seems it will have to do. I am betting on the Oligarchs to build a fancy hotel with expensive restaurants and clothing stores on the ground floor. I mean, what if G. Washington had built Teacher's College in Times Square (out in the sticks at the time)? Where would it be today? But I signed the petition. mike On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Huw Lloyd wrote: > It seems that it is the building rather than the institute that is focal > point of concern. What are the cultural politics of heritage buildings in > Russia, do they have any accord with UNESCO for example? > > > http://en.unesco.org/themes/protecting-our-heritage-and-fostering-creativity > > 100 years is not typically remarkable duration for European heritage > buildings but for a site of cultural practice situated within (and perhaps > in the face of) the turbulence of Russian history does seem remarkable. > > 100 years seems like a good time to recognise some further status. > Perhaps the petition should be directed to that? i.e. to recognising its > cultural heritage and ongoing role. > > In its current form, I am not quite sure what "keep it open" means. My > reflections were that something more specific and positive might be good. > > Best, > Huw > > > On 8 February 2014 22:09, Lois Holzman wrote: > >> Signed and spreading the word >> Lois >> >> >> Lois Holzman >> Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy >> 104-106 South Oxford Street >> Brooklyn, New York 11217 >> Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX >> Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 >> Fax +1.718.797.3966 >> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org >> Social Media >> Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter >> Blogs >> Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News >> Websites >> Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World >> All Stars Project >> >> >> >> On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:01 PM, mike cole wrote: >> >> > Thank you Peter. >> > Now to start spreading the word. >> > Mike >> > >> > On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> > >> >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX >> >> An American Educational Research Association List If you need >> assistance >> >> with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net >> . >> >> >> >> > From boblake@georgiasouthern.edu Sat Feb 8 17:48:02 2014 From: boblake@georgiasouthern.edu (Robert Lake) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 20:48:02 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Russian Academy of Education: Keep the Institute of Psychology open - Sign the Petition! In-Reply-To: References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: signed On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 4:01 PM, mike cole wrote: > Thank you Peter. > Now to start spreading the word. > Mike > > On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX > > An American Educational Research Association List If you need assistance > > with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net > . > > > From lchcmike@gmail.com Sat Feb 8 17:50:54 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 17:50:54 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <41AB7869-3E10-4F6F-BA73-481576BEC721@uow.edu.au> References: <13F7A72D-D7EE-4078-A781-601686FEBF4D@uow.edu.au> <41AB7869-3E10-4F6F-BA73-481576BEC721@uow.edu.au> Message-ID: 7 (499) 245-16-41, 246-81-77 this is fax of the academy of education sovet @ monmonitor.ru this is a "hot line" of the min. of education and science On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Irina Verenikina wrote: > Yes, great Michael > Many thanks > Irina > > On 09/02/2014, at 12:15 PM, mike cole wrote: > > > I can send around info on fax #, but it seems to me that this petition > should be sent to all ISCAR members. > > It probably will do no good, but it would be nice to see a little > international solidarity. That is the institute > > where Vygotsky, Luria, Leontiev, Davydov............... all worked. > > > > I'll forward around the fax number and an email address. > > mike > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Irina Verenikina > wrote: > > Hi Michael > > > > Oh no - this is the Institute I was part of for over 10 years - before > Sasha invited me to join VelHam > > We can write up a support letter on behalf of Organising Committee - do > you know who is the best contact in Russia to liaise with to discuss the > details of most effective way to go? > > > > Take care > > Irina > > > > On 09/02/2014, at 7:44 AM, mike cole wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues-- > > > > > > At present there is a severe crisis affecting our colleagues at the > Institute of Psychololgy, Academy of > > > Education, in Mosow. I am forwarding a petition that is circulating in > Russian. It seems to me that the world of socio-cultural-historical > psychology might want to circulate a petition in English and send it to the > proper Russian authorities. I am completely tied down with other > obligations at the moment, but some some oneS from this > > > list, the ISCAR list, the AERA lists would get a petition going > around, it would be a good thing to do. > > > > > > Thank you Bella for forwarding this translation. For those of you know > russian, you can vote on the petition by visiting the Russian > cultural-historical facebook page. > > > Help please. > > > mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From ablunden@mira.net Sat Feb 8 17:57:23 2014 From: ablunden@mira.net (Andy Blunden) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 12:57:23 +1100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <13F7A72D-D7EE-4078-A781-601686FEBF4D@uow.edu.au> <41AB7869-3E10-4F6F-BA73-481576BEC721@uow.edu.au> Message-ID: <52F6E083.5080404@mira.net> The Institute's website: http://www.pirao.ru/en/ signed andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Andy Blunden* http://home.mira.net/~andy/ mike cole wrote: > 7 (499) 245-16-41, 246-81-77 this is fax of the academy of education > > > sovet @ monmonitor.ru this is a "hot line" of the min. of education and > science > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Irina Verenikina wrote: > > >> Yes, great Michael >> Many thanks >> Irina >> >> On 09/02/2014, at 12:15 PM, mike cole wrote: >> >> >>> I can send around info on fax #, but it seems to me that this petition >>> >> should be sent to all ISCAR members. >> >>> It probably will do no good, but it would be nice to see a little >>> >> international solidarity. That is the institute >> >>> where Vygotsky, Luria, Leontiev, Davydov............... all worked. >>> >>> I'll forward around the fax number and an email address. >>> mike >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Irina Verenikina >>> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Michael >>> >>> Oh no - this is the Institute I was part of for over 10 years - before >>> >> Sasha invited me to join VelHam >> >>> We can write up a support letter on behalf of Organising Committee - do >>> >> you know who is the best contact in Russia to liaise with to discuss the >> details of most effective way to go? >> >>> Take care >>> Irina >>> >>> On 09/02/2014, at 7:44 AM, mike cole wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Dear Colleagues-- >>>> >>>> At present there is a severe crisis affecting our colleagues at the >>>> >> Institute of Psychololgy, Academy of >> >>>> Education, in Mosow. I am forwarding a petition that is circulating in >>>> >> Russian. It seems to me that the world of socio-cultural-historical >> psychology might want to circulate a petition in English and send it to the >> proper Russian authorities. I am completely tied down with other >> obligations at the moment, but some some oneS from this >> >>>> list, the ISCAR list, the AERA lists would get a petition going >>>> >> around, it would be a good thing to do. >> >>>> Thank you Bella for forwarding this translation. For those of you know >>>> >> russian, you can vote on the petition by visiting the Russian >> cultural-historical facebook page. >> >>>> Help please. >>>> mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > From lchcmike@gmail.com Sat Feb 8 18:42:59 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 18:42:59 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Russian Academy of Education: Keep the Institute of Psychology open - Sign the Petition! In-Reply-To: References: <49d2b3e0acb74760ab07bcbeb59b8258@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: its so virusy i itch already mike On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Robert Lake wrote: > signed > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 4:01 PM, mike cole wrote: > >> Thank you Peter. >> Now to start spreading the word. >> Mike >> >> On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> >> > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/LISCFX >> > An American Educational Research Association List If you need >> assistance >> > with this list, please send an email to listadmin@aera.net >> . >> > >> > > From joe.glick@gmail.com Sat Feb 8 21:13:18 2014 From: joe.glick@gmail.com (JAG) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 00:13:18 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Signed and spread Message-ID: <12FAE38C-E390-4479-AFD9-7A45C4962171@gmail.com> The petition I mean. Sent from my iPhone From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 10 03:07:28 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:07:28 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] of relevance to the possible closing of the institute Message-ID: [ViewsEurope] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 74070 bytes Desc: image001.gif Url : https://mailman.ucsd.edu/mailman/private/xmca-l/attachments/20140210/01f9044a/attachment.gif From nickrenz@uchicago.edu Mon Feb 10 09:37:21 2014 From: nickrenz@uchicago.edu (Elizabeth Hadley Nickrenz) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:21 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] CFP: Psyche and Brain in the 21st Century Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Please consider submitting an abstract for the following panel, organized by Samantha Gottlieb and myself through the Science, Technology and Medicine Special Interest Group of the Society for Medical Anthropology. Best Elizabeth Fein, Ph.D. Department of Comparative Human Development University of Chicago Call for Papers: Psyche and Brain in the 21st Century American Anthropological Association Annual Meeting, December 2014 The past several ?Decades of the Brain? have witnessed a critical shift in human ontology: from psyche to brain. In influential psychoanalytic theories of the 20th century, the origin of human motivation, belief and behavior was thought to be the psyche: a deep and often unpredictable interior space whose contents can be accessed only indirectly and inferentially, and whose terrain is shaped most deeply through interpersonal relationships. Today, the explanatory model of the psyche has been eclipsed by an ideal of the brain: a stable material object whose processes can be visualized through technoscience and predictably modified through biomedical intervention. Yet claims that this shift to ?brainhood? is absolute, complete, or unidirectional miss the many ways that these models inform each other, and overlook the many contexts within which the psyche endures as an organizing principle of human epistemology and behavior. In keeping with the AAA 2014 meeting?s ?provocation to examine the truths we encounter, produce and communicate? this panel aims to explore transitions and spaces of tensionbetween between psyche and brain as human ontologies. Resisting the conceptualizations of these categories as polar opposites or two mutually exclusive ends of a continuum, this panel seeks to explore their points of continuity and coexistence. How do ?narratives, actions, sediment and bone? interact in contemporary conceptualizations of human motivation, intention, desire, and action? While there are many factors driving the ?neuro turn,? across a dazzling array of domains, the psyche remains a powerful force in conceptualizations of human self and behavior. However, its presence may today be felt most strongly outside of the so-called ?psyences? ? psychology, psychiatry, psychopharmacology, and other forms of ?mental health? expertise ? in domains such as literature, advertising, and allied health professions. We are thus soliciting papers that explore these questions in a wide variety of settings. Relevant ethnographic fields might include mental health care facilities and treatment interventions, but also integrated care clinics, schools, marketing, the legal and/or justice system, artificial intelligence and behavior prediction algorithms, and anywhere else that consequential inferences are made about how people behave and why they do what they do. How do such practices call upon and integrate models of psyche and brain, in order to predict, understand, or shape human experience and behavior? For consideration, please submit a 250 word abstract to Elizabeth Fein at nickrenz@uchicago.edu by February 28th, 2014. Elizabeth Fein, Ph.D. Department of Comparative Human Development University of Chicago From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 10 10:11:18 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:11:18 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: New Journal In-Reply-To: <325145724.46810.1392055090442.JavaMail.zimbra@psu.edu> References: <2111950636.46264.1392054350301.JavaMail.zimbra@psu.edu> <1939497872.46461.1392054613935.JavaMail.zimbra@psu.edu> <325145724.46810.1392055090442.JavaMail.zimbra@psu.edu> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: James Lantolf [mailto:jpl7@psu.edu] Peter, I'm writing to invite you to submit a manuscript to our new journal, Language and Sociocultural Theory. It is published by Equinox Press. Its focus, as indicated in the title, is on either analyzing language, understood in a broad sense to include L1, L2, literacy, learning, teaching, multilingualism, policy, planning, etc. from the perspective of SCT or on analyzing the role of language in SCT. The journal is published twice a year with the first issue ready to appear this april. The second issue would appear in the fall, either late Oct. or early Nov. Here is the url for the website of the journal where you can find information on submissions. Let me know if you have questions. https://www.equinoxpub.com/journals/index.php/LST I look forward to your response. Best, Jim From MArfken@upei.ca Tue Feb 11 05:32:44 2014 From: MArfken@upei.ca (Michael Arfken) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:32:44 -0400 Subject: [Xmca-l] Special Issue: Psychology & Social Justice - Journal of Theoretical and Philosophical Psychology (Feb, 2014) Message-ID: <52F9EE3C0200005E0004410A@oes-grpwise.novell.upei.ca> ***Apologies For Cross-Postings*** Special Issue: PSYCHOLOGY & SOCIAL JUSTICE Journal of Theoretical and Philosophical Psychology (http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/teo/) February, 2014 (Volume 34) Guest Editors: Michael Arfken and Jeffery Yen -Introduction- Psychology and Social Justice: Theoretical and Philosophical Engagements Michael Arfken & Jeffery Yen -Articles- Social Justice and Psychology: What Is, and What Should Be Winnifred R. Louis, Kenneth I. Mavor, Stephen T. La Macchia & Catherine E. Amiot Madness and Justice Ian Parker The Personal and Political Economy of Psychologists' Desires for Social Justice Richard T. G. Walsh & Ravi Gokani Belief in a Just God (and a Just Society): A System Justification Perspective on Religious Ideology John T. Jost, Carlee Beth Hawkins, Brian A. Nosek, Erin P. Hennes, Chadly Stern, Samuel D. Gosling & Jesse Graham _________________________________ Michael Arfken, PhD Department of Psychology University of Prince Edward Island Email: marfken@upei.ca Website: http://marfken.googlepages.com/ From smago@uga.edu Fri Feb 14 03:01:00 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:01:00 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: Special Issue L1 Educational Studies in Language and Literature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6fb8dc8ee5504503a9b88596cf516e08@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> From: Rijlaarsdam, Gert [mailto:G.C.W.Rijlaarsdam@uva.nl] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:23 PM To: Peter Smagorinsky Subject: Special Issue L1 Educational Studies in Language and Literature Dear L1-Educational Studies in Language & Literature user, It is with great pleasure that we announce the publication of double issue, a special issue on Early Literacy Research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk & Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. It contains 9 research articles and an introduction that contextualize the studies in the new curricular developments in Poland, and the specific requirements of Polish language system for early literacy developments. Hereby we would like to thank both guest editors, reviewers and authors for their efforts to make this issue possible. You will find the whole issue here: http://l1.publication-archive.com/show-issue/8 Below you will find a shortened introduction, and links to separate papers. Kind regards, Gert Rijlaarsdam on behalf of the editorial team Tanja Janssen Isabel Mart?nez ?lvarez Nikolaj Frydensbjerg Elf Shek Kam Tse Early literacy Research in Poland - conditions, acquisition, contexts. Editorial El?bieta Awramiuk* & Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis** *University of Bialystok, Poland **Educational Research Institute, Warsaw, Poland It is with great pleasure that we present the L1 readers with the first special issue devoted to teaching Polish as a native language. In recent years, the Polish education system has been reformed. This includes i.e. changes in the school and preschool entrance age. The age at which children start a compulsory annual preschool education has been decreased to 5 years olds (before it was 6 years old), and compulsory school education starts now at the age of 6 (it was 7 previously). The changes are introduced gradually. They now mean an absolute preschool obligation for all five-year-olds, which can only be realized in kindergartens or special school units that are adapted to it in an appropriate way. When it comes to compulsory school education, until 2014, the decision on whether to send a six-year-old child to school is to be made by the parents. In such circumstances, in present first grades, there are both six-year-old children and seven-year-old children. The situation will change in September 2014, when all six-year-olds will have to start their school education in the first grade. The aim is that five-year-old children attend mandatorily an annual school preparation course, and then - at the age of six - continue their education at the first grade of primary school. The results presented in the special issue of L1 Early literacy in Poland come both from the period of introducing the above-mentioned reform and from earlier time, which is clearly indicated in the texts. The texts collected in the current issue relate to children attending preschool and the first level of education. The general aim of the preschool in Poland is to develop social skills of children by forming their ability to communicate with both the adults and children, fostering their development. The early school education is integrated. It combines the contents of particular elements of education in a way enabling children to gain knowledge and skills that form a whole and are not separate from one another. The primary aim is to foster the child's overall development. Within the annual preschool course, apart from numerous social, emotional and cognitive skills, readiness for reading and writing is developed. The core curriculum assumes that during this time, reading, writing, letters etc. are not yet taught, but some exercises are introduced, and namely exercises improving the organization of perception field and eye-hand coordination (which is needed for drawing, cutting and learning to write). Also, the interest in reading and writing is developed, as well as the ability to construct sentences, segment sentences into words and isolate sounds in words of simple phonetic structure. Within school education at the level of integrated teaching, the teaching of native language in the first grade includes verbal expression, the culture of language and initial reading and writing education. When it comes to reading and writing, the student finishing the first grade knows i.a. all the letters of alphabet, can read and write simple, short texts, cares for the esthetics and graphic correctness of writing, can use the following terms with understanding: word, sound, letter, syllable, sentence. At the end of the third grade of primary school, the student can read, understand, analyze and interpret texts for children at the first educational level, is sensitive to esthetics, broadens his/her vocabulary by contact with literary works and art for children. In addition he/she can write in a clear and esthetic manner, cares for grammatical and orthographical correctness and punctuation and does his/her homework on his/her own if possible. Moving to the characteristics of the Polish language, it is necessary to start with the indication that Polish belongs to the group of West Slavic Languages, which is a part of the Indo-European language family. According to the comparative typology it is described as morphophonemic, inflectional, consonantal language. This means that it is a language, in which numerous morphological alternations take place and consonants form over 70% of the whole phonological system. Graphic variability of words is the effect of morphological alternations, which has significant consequences for literacy education. In learning how to read and write, the global method is not very effective. Analytical-synthetic methods turn out to be much better and they are dominant in Polish schools. Writing cannot merely rely on auditory experience, because Polish spelling codes both phonological and morphological information. In addition, Polish inflection results in multifunctional grammatical word endings and allows for relatively free word order. In order to code 37 phonemes, 44 graphemes are used in Polish, because apart from single letters, 12 complex graphemes are used (e.g. RZ, SI, DZI). Among Polish graphemes there are pairs which denote the same phonological unit (e.g. ? - U, ? - SI). Due to the fact that Polish orthography allows for relations among various phonic realizations of the same morpheme, almost each letter may correspond to two various phonemes and almost each letter may occur in a position, which is pronounced in accordance with the spelling. The Polish writing system is a system with average transparency. The relationship between grapheme and phoneme is not as clear as it is in Finnish, but it is not as irregular as in English. This lack of transparency poses greater problems in writing, as in many cases the written representation of a word is not compatible with its pronunciation. This is connected to the phenomenon of devoicing that is a result of the phonetic neighborhood (e.g. in the word ?awka 'bench' [v] becomes voiceless because of the neighborhood of [k] and the whole cluster is realized voiceless [fk]) and to the rule of voiceless final position (e.g. kot 'cat' - kod 'code' sound identical). The basic problem of a person speaking Polish is not how to read a word that he/she sees, but rather how to spell the word that he/she hears. Due to the transfer of morphological information by writing in the Polish language (as in many other alphabetical scripts), the relation grapheme - phoneme is more logical than the relation phoneme - grapheme, which means that knowing the basic rules, it is easier to read a given word than to write it. The issue of Early literacy in Poland was aimed to form a research landscape on teaching and learning of reading and writing in Polish in kindergarten and at the first stage of education. Certainly, the presented texts cannot show the full picture of the Polish scientific activity in this area, however, they might give an idea of topics of the research conducted, methodologies used and show that Polish researchers conduct studies in international teams. Articles in the double issue Awramiuk, E., & Krasowicz-Kupis, G. (2014). Early literacy research in Poland - conditions, acquisition, contexts. Editorial. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol. 14, p. 1 - 5. Kamykowska, J., Haman, E., Latvala J.-M., Richardson, U., Lyytinen, H. (2013). Developmental changes of early reading skills in six-year-old Polish children and GraphoGame as a computer-based intervention to support them. Contribution to a double special issue on Early Literacy Research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, 13 , p. 1-17. Uszy?ska-Jarmoc, J. & ?ak, M. (2013). The First Schoolbook - the Tool of Reproducing Culture by the Child or the Tool of Child's Participation in Culture? Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.13 , p. 1-18. Trysi?ska, M. (2013). Kind and unkind communicative behaviour of cartoon characters as a source of language competence for young children. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol. 13 , p. 1-15. Guzy, A & Niesporek-Szamburska, B (2013). Relations between children's spatial thinking and their linguistic and communicative skills. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, 13 , p. 1-28. Jaszczyszyn, E. (2013). Initial learning to read in kindergarten - formal and research perspective. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.13 , p. 1-16. Jab?o?ski, S. (2013). Inhibitory control and literacy development among 3- to 5-year-old chil-dren. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.13 , p. 1-25. Sochacka, K. (2013). The stability of gender-related differences in early reading development in Polish children. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.13 , p. 1-18. Wiejak, K. (2014). Recognition of figurative language and reading ability in Polish school children. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.14 , p. 1-14. Awramiuk, E., & Krasowicz-Kupis, G. (2014). Reading and spelling acquisition in Polish: Educational and linguistic determinants. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.14 , p. 1-24. From hans.knutagard@hkr.se Fri Feb 14 05:23:40 2014 From: hans.knutagard@hkr.se (Hans =?UTF-8?B?S251dGFnw6VyZA==?=) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:23:40 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology In-Reply-To: <52F9EE3C0200005E0004410A@oes-grpwise.novell.upei.ca> References: <52F9EE3C0200005E0004410A@oes-grpwise.novell.upei.ca> Message-ID: Dear friends, for your information: Finally ? the Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology is completed! 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[ http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diva-portal.org%2Fsmash%2Fget%2Fdiva2%3A696493%2FFULLTEXT01.pdf&h=HAQET2Ko_&enc=AZM8O54UTEF9q1cPX8r8Wh99fCCUaj6Gb5YhleMYwdQo0qJRoaowW0IHxb0znnPcTABQyrOsYUzlbUH1jUhRedxqbFvm4WtagzHrOC7soREYaM8J3dV4o0Qco NE5MNrrsvG_EixECekFurrFHde-ra4X&s=1 ]http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf Yours Hans Knutag?rd Universitetslektor i socialt arbete/Senior Lecturer in social work Sektionen f?r h?lsa och samh?lle/Department of Health and Society 291 88 H?gskolan Kristianstad/SE-291 88 Kristianstad University, Sweden Tel: 044-20 38 25 / Phone +46 (0)44-20 38 25 e-mail: hans.knutagard@hkr.se From hans.knutagard@hkr.se Fri Feb 14 05:47:50 2014 From: hans.knutagard@hkr.se (Hans =?UTF-8?B?S251dGFnw6VyZA==?=) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:47:50 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Sorry Message-ID: I am sorry, do not know whar happened to the link. Here it come again http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf Yours Hans From leifstrandberg.ab@telia.com Fri Feb 14 05:56:21 2014 From: leifstrandberg.ab@telia.com (Leif Strandberg) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:56:21 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sorry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C5F21E0-DBD9-4334-89A7-EF0CAD1E2342@telia.com> Hej Hans, s? nu? funkar det tack f?r din/er sammanst?llning? jag hade t?nkt komma men min mamma begravdes precis de d?r dagarna? n?sta g?ng kommer jag hoppas det ?r bra med dig med mig ?r det bra bor numera i H?lsingland Leif 14 feb 2014 kl. 14:47 skrev "Hans Knutag?rd" : > I am sorry, do not know whar happened to the link. Here it come again > > http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf > > Yours > > Hans > From kplakits@gmail.com Fri Feb 14 06:11:41 2014 From: kplakits@gmail.com (kplakits@gmail.com) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:11:41 +0200 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology In-Reply-To: References: <52F9EE3C0200005E0004410A@oes-grpwise.novell.upei.ca> Message-ID: <95CE431F32EF44B6B1DA4F229DA2E5FC@NIKAVAIO> CONGRATS -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Katerina Plakitsi Associate Professor of Science Education School of Education Depart. of Early Childhood Education University of Ioannina Greece Tel.: +302651005771 (office) Fax.: +302651005842 Mob.: +306972898463 http://users.uoi.gr/kplakits www.lib.uoi.gr/serp http://erasmus-ip.uoi.gr -----?????? ??????----- From: Hans Knutag?rd Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:23 PM To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology Dear friends, for your information: Finally ? the Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology is completed! [ http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diva-portal.org%2Fsmash%2Fget%2Fdiva2%3A696493%2FFULLTEXT01.pdf&h=HAQET2Ko_&enc=AZM8O54UTEF9q1cPX8r8Wh99fCCUaj6Gb5YhleMYwdQo0qJRoaowW0IHxb0znnPcTABQyrOsYUzlbUH1jUhRedxqbFvm4WtagzHrOC7soREYaM8J3dV4o0Qco NE5MNrrsvG_EixECekFurrFHde-ra4X&s=1 ]http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf Yours Hans Knutag?rd Universitetslektor i socialt arbete/Senior Lecturer in social work Sektionen f?r h?lsa och samh?lle/Department of Health and Society 291 88 H?gskolan Kristianstad/SE-291 88 Kristianstad University, Sweden Tel: 044-20 38 25 / Phone +46 (0)44-20 38 25 e-mail: hans.knutagard@hkr.se From kplakits@gmail.com Fri Feb 14 06:11:41 2014 From: kplakits@gmail.com (kplakits@gmail.com) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:11:41 +0200 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology In-Reply-To: References: <52F9EE3C0200005E0004410A@oes-grpwise.novell.upei.ca> Message-ID: <95CE431F32EF44B6B1DA4F229DA2E5FC@NIKAVAIO> CONGRATS -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Katerina Plakitsi Associate Professor of Science Education School of Education Depart. of Early Childhood Education University of Ioannina Greece Tel.: +302651005771 (office) Fax.: +302651005842 Mob.: +306972898463 http://users.uoi.gr/kplakits www.lib.uoi.gr/serp http://erasmus-ip.uoi.gr -----?????? ??????----- From: Hans Knutag?rd Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:23 PM To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology Dear friends, for your information: Finally ? the Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology is completed! [ http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diva-portal.org%2Fsmash%2Fget%2Fdiva2%3A696493%2FFULLTEXT01.pdf&h=HAQET2Ko_&enc=AZM8O54UTEF9q1cPX8r8Wh99fCCUaj6Gb5YhleMYwdQo0qJRoaowW0IHxb0znnPcTABQyrOsYUzlbUH1jUhRedxqbFvm4WtagzHrOC7soREYaM8J3dV4o0Qco NE5MNrrsvG_EixECekFurrFHde-ra4X&s=1 ]http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf Yours Hans Knutag?rd Universitetslektor i socialt arbete/Senior Lecturer in social work Sektionen f?r h?lsa och samh?lle/Department of Health and Society 291 88 H?gskolan Kristianstad/SE-291 88 Kristianstad University, Sweden Tel: 044-20 38 25 / Phone +46 (0)44-20 38 25 e-mail: hans.knutagard@hkr.se From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Fri Feb 14 07:22:07 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:22:07 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] =?iso-8859-1?q?Decentring_the_West=3A_the_idea_of_democracy_and_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?the_struggle_for_hegemony=22=A0?= Message-ID: <8tmnss0ygli8tniruui37d4j.1392391062014@email.android.com> Fyi...those researching democracy. We are pleased to inform you that your article "Decentring the West: the idea of democracy and the struggle for hegemony" has been published on Taylor & Francis Online. It is available at:?http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13510347.2013.870159. share online access to your article with up to 50 colleagues by forwarding this eprint link?http://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/W88vFj62vyBmARJxVG5q/full?or by adding it to your social media profile. Research suggests that early readership drives citation levels up. Regards, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com www.paulcmocombe.info? Race and Class Distinctions within Black Communities? www.routledge.com/9780415714372 -------- Original message -------- From: kplakits@gmail.com Date:02/14/2014 9:11 AM (GMT-05:00) To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" ,xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology CONGRATS -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Katerina Plakitsi Associate Professor of Science Education School of Education Depart. of Early Childhood Education University of Ioannina Greece Tel.: +302651005771 (office) Fax.: +302651005842 Mob.: +306972898463 http://users.uoi.gr/kplakits www.lib.uoi.gr/serp http://erasmus-ip.uoi.gr -----?????? ??????----- From: Hans Knutag?rd Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:23 PM To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology Dear friends, for your information: Finally ? the Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology is completed! [ http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diva-portal.org%2Fsmash%2Fget%2Fdiva2%3A696493%2FFULLTEXT01.pdf&h=HAQET2Ko_&enc=AZM8O54UTEF9q1cPX8r8Wh99fCCUaj6Gb5YhleMYwdQo0qJRoaowW0IHxb0znnPcTABQyrOsYUzlbUH1jUhRedxqbFvm4WtagzHrOC7soREYaM8J3dV4o0Qco NE5MNrrsvG_EixECekFurrFHde-ra4X&s=1 ]http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf Yours Hans Knutag?rd Universitetslektor i socialt arbete/Senior Lecturer in social work Sektionen f?r h?lsa och samh?lle/Department of Health and Society 291 88 H?gskolan Kristianstad/SE-291 88 Kristianstad University, Sweden Tel: 044-20 38 25 / Phone +46 (0)44-20 38 25 e-mail: hans.knutagard@hkr.se From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Fri Feb 14 07:22:07 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:22:07 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] =?iso-8859-1?q?Decentring_the_West=3A_the_idea_of_democracy_and_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?the_struggle_for_hegemony=22=A0?= Message-ID: <8tmnss0ygli8tniruui37d4j.1392391062014@email.android.com> Fyi...those researching democracy. We are pleased to inform you that your article "Decentring the West: the idea of democracy and the struggle for hegemony" has been published on Taylor & Francis Online. It is available at:?http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13510347.2013.870159. share online access to your article with up to 50 colleagues by forwarding this eprint link?http://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/W88vFj62vyBmARJxVG5q/full?or by adding it to your social media profile. Research suggests that early readership drives citation levels up. Regards, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com www.paulcmocombe.info? Race and Class Distinctions within Black Communities? www.routledge.com/9780415714372 -------- Original message -------- From: kplakits@gmail.com Date:02/14/2014 9:11 AM (GMT-05:00) To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" ,xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology CONGRATS -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Katerina Plakitsi Associate Professor of Science Education School of Education Depart. of Early Childhood Education University of Ioannina Greece Tel.: +302651005771 (office) Fax.: +302651005842 Mob.: +306972898463 http://users.uoi.gr/kplakits www.lib.uoi.gr/serp http://erasmus-ip.uoi.gr -----?????? ??????----- From: Hans Knutag?rd Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:23 PM To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology Dear friends, for your information: Finally ? the Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology is completed! [ http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diva-portal.org%2Fsmash%2Fget%2Fdiva2%3A696493%2FFULLTEXT01.pdf&h=HAQET2Ko_&enc=AZM8O54UTEF9q1cPX8r8Wh99fCCUaj6Gb5YhleMYwdQo0qJRoaowW0IHxb0znnPcTABQyrOsYUzlbUH1jUhRedxqbFvm4WtagzHrOC7soREYaM8J3dV4o0Qco NE5MNrrsvG_EixECekFurrFHde-ra4X&s=1 ]http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf Yours Hans Knutag?rd Universitetslektor i socialt arbete/Senior Lecturer in social work Sektionen f?r h?lsa och samh?lle/Department of Health and Society 291 88 H?gskolan Kristianstad/SE-291 88 Kristianstad University, Sweden Tel: 044-20 38 25 / Phone +46 (0)44-20 38 25 e-mail: hans.knutagard@hkr.se From shirinvossoughi@gmail.com Fri Feb 14 11:58:31 2014 From: shirinvossoughi@gmail.com (Shirin Vossoughi) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:58:31 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Decentring the West: the idea of democracy and the struggle for hegemony" Message-ID: Thank you Paul, I very much look forward to reading this. shirin On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe < pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote: > Fyi...those researching democracy. > > > > We are pleased to inform you that your article "Decentring the West: the > idea of democracy and the struggle for hegemony" has been published on > Taylor & Francis Online. It is available at: > http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13510347.2013.870159. > > share online access to your article with up to 50 colleagues by forwarding > this eprint link > http://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/W88vFj62vyBmARJxVG5q/full or by adding > it to your social media profile. Research suggests that early readership > drives citation levels up. > > Regards, > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > President > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > www.mocombeian.com > www.readingroomcurriculum.com > www.paulcmocombe.info > > Race and Class Distinctions within Black Communities > www.routledge.com/9780415714372 > > -------- Original message -------- > From: kplakits@gmail.com > Date:02/14/2014 9:11 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" , > xmca-l@ucsd.edu > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology > > CONGRATS > > > > -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- > Katerina Plakitsi > Associate Professor of Science Education > School of Education > Depart. of Early Childhood Education > University of Ioannina > Greece > Tel.: +302651005771 (office) > Fax.: +302651005842 > Mob.: +306972898463 > http://users.uoi.gr/kplakits > www.lib.uoi.gr/serp > http://erasmus-ip.uoi.gr > -----?????? ??????----- > From: Hans Knutag?rd > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:23 PM > To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu > Subject: [Xmca-l] The Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology > > Dear friends, > > for your information: > > Finally ? the Nordic ISCAR 2013 anthology is completed! > > [ > > http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diva-portal.org%2Fsmash%2Fget%2Fdiva2%3A696493%2FFULLTEXT01.pdf&h=HAQET2Ko_&enc=AZM8O54UTEF9q1cPX8r8Wh99fCCUaj6Gb5YhleMYwdQo0qJRoaowW0IHxb0znnPcTABQyrOsYUzlbUH1jUhRedxqbFvm4WtagzHrOC7soREYaM8J3dV4o0Qco > NE5MNrrsvG_EixECekFurrFHde-ra4X&s=1 NE5MNrrsvG_EixECekFurrFHde-ra4X&s=1> > ]http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf > > Yours > Hans Knutag?rd > > Universitetslektor i socialt arbete/Senior Lecturer in social work > Sektionen f?r h?lsa och samh?lle/Department of Health and Society > 291 88 H?gskolan Kristianstad/SE-291 88 Kristianstad University, Sweden > Tel: 044-20 38 25 / Phone +46 (0)44-20 38 25 > e-mail: hans.knutagard@hkr.se > > > From lchcmike@gmail.com Fri Feb 14 13:42:22 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:42:22 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sorry In-Reply-To: <6C5F21E0-DBD9-4334-89A7-EF0CAD1E2342@telia.com> References: <6C5F21E0-DBD9-4334-89A7-EF0CAD1E2342@telia.com> Message-ID: Thanks very much for sending, Hans. mike 2014-02-14 5:56 GMT-08:00 Leif Strandberg : > Hej Hans, > > s? nu... funkar det > > tack f?r din/er sammanst?llning... jag hade t?nkt komma men min mamma > begravdes precis de d?r dagarna... n?sta g?ng kommer jag > > hoppas det ?r bra med dig > med mig ?r det bra > > bor numera i H?lsingland > > Leif > > > 14 feb 2014 kl. 14:47 skrev "Hans Knutag?rd" : > > > I am sorry, do not know whar happened to the link. Here it come again > > > > http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf > > > > Yours > > > > Hans > > > > > From lchcmike@gmail.com Fri Feb 14 14:37:20 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:37:20 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sorry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hans-- It is clear from even a rapid scan of the book you sent that there is a great deal there of interest to xmca readers. I for example, would warmly welcome a discussion of the article by Theodor Enerstvedt about Rubenshtein and activity theory. Might he be interested in discussing these issues on xmca? Long ago as an even more naive beginner, I reviewed Payne's book on Rubenshtein. I also noted that in the last decade, members of the cultural historical school have often included him in their discussions of activity. If it is not known to you, an article by Andrei Brushlinsky was published in the precursor to MCA http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Histarch/ap83v5n2.PDF#page=1 Note that Leontiev himself has come in for some severe criticism for the affinities between his theory and the Soviet state (In this regard, I have always found it odd that Rubenshtein received a Stalin prize). Anyway, if only for the opportunity to discuss the variety of understandings of the term, internalization, that appear on MCA,it could be helpful to discuss the Theodor Enerstvedt piece. mike On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Hans Knutag?rd wrote: > I am sorry, do not know whar happened to the link. Here it come again > > http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf > > Yours > > Hans > > From pfarruggio@utpa.edu Fri Feb 14 18:25:27 2014 From: pfarruggio@utpa.edu (Peter Farruggio) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 02:25:27 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: FW: Special Issue L1 Educational Studies in Language and Literature In-Reply-To: <6fb8dc8ee5504503a9b88596cf516e08@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: , <6fb8dc8ee5504503a9b88596cf516e08@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E5596860664F@CC-INFDBMBX6.ds.utpa.edu> If I interpret this correctly, they will begin to teach "phonics" to very young children, as is being done with a vengeance in the US and other English speaking countries. Specifically, it seems they will have kids breaking words down into phonemes. "Also, the interest in reading and writing is developed, as well as the ability to construct sentences, segment sentences into words and isolate sounds in words of simple phonetic structure." As an experienced Reading Specialist in two languages (English, Spanish), I will caution: DON'T DO THIS! It has proven to be a big waste of time in US schools, and has actually hampered the development of fluid and comprehensible reading/writing for so many children. The so-called research in support of "systematic phonics" instruction in English is seriously flawed, as it defines "reading" as sounding out words (both real and make-believe) on word lists instead of reading real texts with comprehension For those interested, Stephen Krashen reviews the research here http://www.nochildleft.com/2003/may03reading.html Cheers, Pete Farruggio ________________________________________ From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Peter Smagorinsky [smago@uga.edu] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:01 AM To: LEGO-L@listserv.uga.edu; LLE-L@listserv.uga.edu; (NCRLL@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU); eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: Special Issue L1 Educational Studies in Language and Literature From: Rijlaarsdam, Gert [mailto:G.C.W.Rijlaarsdam@uva.nl] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:23 PM To: Peter Smagorinsky Subject: Special Issue L1 Educational Studies in Language and Literature Dear L1-Educational Studies in Language & Literature user, It is with great pleasure that we announce the publication of double issue, a special issue on Early Literacy Research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk & Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. It contains 9 research articles and an introduction that contextualize the studies in the new curricular developments in Poland, and the specific requirements of Polish language system for early literacy developments. Hereby we would like to thank both guest editors, reviewers and authors for their efforts to make this issue possible. You will find the whole issue here: http://l1.publication-archive.com/show-issue/8 Below you will find a shortened introduction, and links to separate papers. Kind regards, Gert Rijlaarsdam on behalf of the editorial team Tanja Janssen Isabel Mart?nez ?lvarez Nikolaj Frydensbjerg Elf Shek Kam Tse Early literacy Research in Poland - conditions, acquisition, contexts. Editorial El?bieta Awramiuk* & Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis** *University of Bialystok, Poland **Educational Research Institute, Warsaw, Poland It is with great pleasure that we present the L1 readers with the first special issue devoted to teaching Polish as a native language. In recent years, the Polish education system has been reformed. This includes i.e. changes in the school and preschool entrance age. The age at which children start a compulsory annual preschool education has been decreased to 5 years olds (before it was 6 years old), and compulsory school education starts now at the age of 6 (it was 7 previously). The changes are introduced gradually. They now mean an absolute preschool obligation for all five-year-olds, which can only be realized in kindergartens or special school units that are adapted to it in an appropriate way. When it comes to compulsory school education, until 2014, the decision on whether to send a six-year-old child to school is to be made by the parents. In such circumstances, in present first grades, there are both six-year-old children and seven-year-old children. The situation will change in September 2014, when all six-year-olds will have to start their school education in the first grade. The aim is that five-year-old children attend mandatorily an annual school preparation course, and then - at the age of six - continue their education at the first grade of primary school. The results presented in the special issue of L1 Early literacy in Poland come both from the period of introducing the above-mentioned reform and from earlier time, which is clearly indicated in the texts. The texts collected in the current issue relate to children attending preschool and the first level of education. The general aim of the preschool in Poland is to develop social skills of children by forming their ability to communicate with both the adults and children, fostering their development. The early school education is integrated. It combines the contents of particular elements of education in a way enabling children to gain knowledge and skills that form a whole and are not separate from one another. The primary aim is to foster the child's overall development. Within the annual preschool course, apart from numerous social, emotional and cognitive skills, readiness for reading and writing is developed. The core curriculum assumes that during this time, reading, writing, letters etc. are not yet taught, but some exercises are introduced, and namely exercises improving the organization of perception field and eye-hand coordination (which is needed for drawing, cutting and learning to write). Also, the interest in reading and writing is developed, as well as the ability to construct sentences, segment sentences into words and isolate sounds in words of simple phonetic structure. Within school education at the level of integrated teaching, the teaching of native language in the first grade includes verbal expression, the culture of language and initial reading and writing education. When it comes to reading and writing, the student finishing the first grade knows i.a. all the letters of alphabet, can read and write simple, short texts, cares for the esthetics and graphic correctness of writing, can use the following terms with understanding: word, sound, letter, syllable, sentence. At the end of the third grade of primary school, the student can read, understand, analyze and interpret texts for children at the first educational level, is sensitive to esthetics, broadens his/her vocabulary by contact with literary works and art for children. In addition he/she can write in a clear and esthetic manner, cares for grammatical and orthographical correctness and punctuation and does his/her homework on his/her own if possible. Moving to the characteristics of the Polish language, it is necessary to start with the indication that Polish belongs to the group of West Slavic Languages, which is a part of the Indo-European language family. According to the comparative typology it is described as morphophonemic, inflectional, consonantal language. This means that it is a language, in which numerous morphological alternations take place and consonants form over 70% of the whole phonological system. Graphic variability of words is the effect of morphological alternations, which has significant consequences for literacy education. In learning how to read and write, the global method is not very effective. Analytical-synthetic methods turn out to be much better and they are dominant in Polish schools. Writing cannot merely rely on auditory experience, because Polish spelling codes both phonological and morphological information. In addition, Polish inflection results in multifunctional grammatical word endings and allows for relatively free word order. In order to code 37 phonemes, 44 graphemes are used in Polish, because apart from single letters, 12 complex graphemes are used (e.g. RZ, SI, DZI). Among Polish graphemes there are pairs which denote the same phonological unit (e.g. ? - U, ? - SI). Due to the fact that Polish orthography allows for relations among various phonic realizations of the same morpheme, almost each letter may correspond to two various phonemes and almost each letter may occur in a position, which is pronounced in accordance with the spelling. The Polish writing system is a system with average transparency. The relationship between grapheme and phoneme is not as clear as it is in Finnish, but it is not as irregular as in English. This lack of transparency poses greater problems in writing, as in many cases the written representation of a word is not compatible with its pronunciation. This is connected to the phenomenon of devoicing that is a result of the phonetic neighborhood (e.g. in the word ?awka 'bench' [v] becomes voiceless because of the neighborhood of [k] and the whole cluster is realized voiceless [fk]) and to the rule of voiceless final position (e.g. kot 'cat' - kod 'code' sound identical). The basic problem of a person speaking Polish is not how to read a word that he/she sees, but rather how to spell the word that he/she hears. Due to the transfer of morphological information by writing in the Polish language (as in many other alphabetical scripts), the relation grapheme - phoneme is more logical than the relation phoneme - grapheme, which means that knowing the basic rules, it is easier to read a given word than to write it. The issue of Early literacy in Poland was aimed to form a research landscape on teaching and learning of reading and writing in Polish in kindergarten and at the first stage of education. Certainly, the presented texts cannot show the full picture of the Polish scientific activity in this area, however, they might give an idea of topics of the research conducted, methodologies used and show that Polish researchers conduct studies in international teams. Articles in the double issue Awramiuk, E., & Krasowicz-Kupis, G. (2014). Early literacy research in Poland - conditions, acquisition, contexts. Editorial. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol. 14, p. 1 - 5. Kamykowska, J., Haman, E., Latvala J.-M., Richardson, U., Lyytinen, H. (2013). Developmental changes of early reading skills in six-year-old Polish children and GraphoGame as a computer-based intervention to support them. Contribution to a double special issue on Early Literacy Research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, 13 , p. 1-17. Uszy?ska-Jarmoc, J. & ?ak, M. (2013). The First Schoolbook - the Tool of Reproducing Culture by the Child or the Tool of Child's Participation in Culture? Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.13 , p. 1-18. Trysi?ska, M. (2013). Kind and unkind communicative behaviour of cartoon characters as a source of language competence for young children. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol. 13 , p. 1-15. Guzy, A & Niesporek-Szamburska, B (2013). Relations between children's spatial thinking and their linguistic and communicative skills. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, 13 , p. 1-28. Jaszczyszyn, E. (2013). Initial learning to read in kindergarten - formal and research perspective. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.13 , p. 1-16. Jab?o?ski, S. (2013). Inhibitory control and literacy development among 3- to 5-year-old chil-dren. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.13 , p. 1-25. Sochacka, K. (2013). The stability of gender-related differences in early reading development in Polish children. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.13 , p. 1-18. Wiejak, K. (2014). Recognition of figurative language and reading ability in Polish school children. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.14 , p. 1-14. Awramiuk, E., & Krasowicz-Kupis, G. (2014). Reading and spelling acquisition in Polish: Educational and linguistic determinants. Contribution to a double special issue on Early literacy research in Poland, edited by El?bieta Awramiuk and Gra?yna Krasowicz-Kupis. L1-Educational Studies in Language and Literature, vol.14 , p. 1-24. From greg.a.thompson@gmail.com Fri Feb 14 20:13:14 2014 From: greg.a.thompson@gmail.com (Greg Thompson) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:13:14 -0700 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sorry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was wondering if anyone has the original Russian for the paragraph that is the classic statement by Vygotsky on the concept (I'm not going to be able to do anything with it, but I know people who can...). It is on p. 113 of the Enerstvedt piece, and is taken from Mind in Society, the chapter titled Internalization of Higher Psychological Functions. Here is the text: "An interpersonal process is transformed into an intrapersonal one. Every function in the child's cultural development appears twice: first on the social level, and later, on the individual level; first, between people (interpsychological) and then inside the child (intrapsychological). This applies equally to voluntary attention, to logical memory, and in the formation of concepts. All the higher functions originate as actual relations between human beings." Anyone have the Russian original and could send it to the listserve? I'm very interested in the Enerstvedt piece and particularly the discussion of internalization. Thanks, greg On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:37 PM, mike cole wrote: > Hans-- > > It is clear from even a rapid scan of the book you sent that there is a > great deal there of interest to xmca readers. I for example, would warmly > welcome a discussion of the article by Theodor Enerstvedt about Rubenshtein > and activity theory. Might he be interested in discussing these issues on > xmca? > > Long ago as an even more naive beginner, I reviewed Payne's book on > Rubenshtein. I also noted that in the last decade, members of the cultural > historical school have often included him in their discussions of activity. > If it is not known to you, an article by Andrei Brushlinsky was published > in the precursor to MCA > > http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Histarch/ap83v5n2.PDF#page=1 > > Note that Leontiev himself has come in for some severe criticism for the > affinities between his theory and the Soviet state (In this regard, I have > always found it odd that Rubenshtein received a Stalin prize). > > Anyway, if only for the opportunity to discuss the variety of > understandings of the term, internalization, that appear on MCA,it could be > helpful to discuss the > Theodor Enerstvedt piece. > > mike > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Hans Knutag?rd >wrote: > > > I am sorry, do not know whar happened to the link. Here it come again > > > > http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf > > > > Yours > > > > Hans > > > > > -- Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D. Visiting Assistant Professor Department of Anthropology 883 Spencer W. Kimball Tower Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson From lpscholar2@gmail.com Sat Feb 15 16:19:46 2014 From: lpscholar2@gmail.com (Larry Purss) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:19:46 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Sorry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I read the article by Enerstvedt and am left with more questions. In particular the notion of both/and in the conjunction BOTH activity AND interchange. I am left wondering first if there are clear differences between the concepts [activity AND interchange] and if these concepts express different aspects of human nature? For example learning conventional pre existing forms of activity in contrast to the emergence of novelty within inter-change, inter-subjective INTER-VALS? The theme of the *between* AS *inter* and the gap that can never be overcome within intervals as THIS gap IS the *beyond* which extends the conventional AS the truth that the conventional can always be *otherwise*. However without the conventional there does not exist the *potential* for the *otherwise* to come into existence. BOTH/AND Both *activity* AND *interchange* Internalization AS both activity and interchange On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Greg Thompson wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has the original Russian for the paragraph that > is the classic statement by Vygotsky on the concept (I'm not going to be > able to do anything with it, but I know people who can...). It is on p. 113 > of the Enerstvedt piece, and is taken from Mind in Society, the chapter > titled Internalization of Higher Psychological Functions. Here is the text: > > "An interpersonal process is transformed into an intrapersonal one. Every > function in > the child's cultural development appears twice: first on the social level, > and later, on > the individual level; first, between people (interpsychological) and then > inside the child > (intrapsychological). This applies equally to voluntary attention, to > logical memory, > and in the formation of concepts. All the higher functions originate as > actual relations > between human beings." > > Anyone have the Russian original and could send it to the listserve? > > I'm very interested in the Enerstvedt piece and particularly the discussion > of internalization. > > Thanks, > greg > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:37 PM, mike cole wrote: > > > Hans-- > > > > It is clear from even a rapid scan of the book you sent that there is a > > great deal there of interest to xmca readers. I for example, would warmly > > welcome a discussion of the article by Theodor Enerstvedt about > Rubenshtein > > and activity theory. Might he be interested in discussing these issues on > > xmca? > > > > Long ago as an even more naive beginner, I reviewed Payne's book on > > Rubenshtein. I also noted that in the last decade, members of the > cultural > > historical school have often included him in their discussions of > activity. > > If it is not known to you, an article by Andrei Brushlinsky was published > > in the precursor to MCA > > > > http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Histarch/ap83v5n2.PDF#page=1 > > > > Note that Leontiev himself has come in for some severe criticism for the > > affinities between his theory and the Soviet state (In this regard, I > have > > always found it odd that Rubenshtein received a Stalin prize). > > > > Anyway, if only for the opportunity to discuss the variety of > > understandings of the term, internalization, that appear on MCA,it could > be > > helpful to discuss the > > Theodor Enerstvedt piece. > > > > mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Hans Knutag?rd > >wrote: > > > > > I am sorry, do not know whar happened to the link. Here it come again > > > > > > http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:696493/FULLTEXT01.pdf > > > > > > Yours > > > > > > Hans > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D. > Visiting Assistant Professor > Department of Anthropology > 883 Spencer W. Kimball Tower > Brigham Young University > Provo, UT 84602 > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson > From smago@uga.edu Sun Feb 16 07:09:54 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:09:54 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Professors, We Need You! Message-ID: Professors, We Need You! FEB. 15, 2014 Nicholas Kristof SOME of the smartest thinkers on problems at home and around the world are university professors, but most of them just don't matter in today's great debates. The most stinging dismissal of a point is to say: "That's academic." In other words, to be a scholar is, often, to be irrelevant. One reason is the anti-intellectualism in American life, the kind that led Rick Santorum to scold President Obama as "a snob" for wanting more kids to go to college, or that led congressional Republicans to denounce spending on social science research. Yet it's not just that America has marginalized some of its sharpest minds. They have also marginalized themselves. "All the disciplines have become more and more specialized and more and more quantitative, making them less and less accessible to the general public," notes Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former dean of the Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton and now the president of the New America Foundation. There are plenty of exceptions, of course, including in economics, history and some sciences, in professional schools like law and business, and, above all, in schools of public policy; for that matter, we have a law professor in the White House. But, over all, there are, I think, fewer public intellectuals on American university campuses today than a generation ago. A basic challenge is that Ph.D. programs have fostered a culture that glorifies arcane unintelligibility while disdaining impact and audience. This culture of exclusivity is then transmitted to the next generation through the publish-or-perish tenure process. Rebels are too often crushed or driven away. "Many academics frown on public pontificating as a frivolous distraction from real research," said Will McCants, a Middle East specialist at the Brookings Institution. "This attitude affects tenure decisions. If the sine qua non for academic success is peer-reviewed publications, then academics who 'waste their time' writing for the masses will be penalized." The latest attempt by academia to wall itself off from the world came when the executive council of the prestigious International Studies Association proposed that its publication editors be barred from having personal blogs. The association might as well scream: We want our scholars to be less influential! A related problem is that academics seeking tenure must encode their insights into turgid prose. As a double protection against public consumption, this gobbledygook is then sometimes hidden in obscure journals - or published by university presses whose reputations for soporifics keep readers at a distance. Jill Lepore, a Harvard historian who writes for The New Yorker and is an exception to everything said here, noted the result: "a great, heaping mountain of exquisite knowledge surrounded by a vast moat of dreadful prose." As experiments, scholars have periodically submitted meaningless gibberish to scholarly journals - only to have the nonsense respectfully published. My onetime love, political science, is a particular offender and seems to be trying, in terms of practical impact, to commit suicide. "Political science Ph.D.'s often aren't prepared to do real-world analysis," says Ian Bremmer, a Stanford political science Ph.D. who runs the Eurasia Group, a consulting firm. In the late 1930s and early 1940s, one-fifth of articles in The American Political Science Review focused on policy prescriptions; at last count, the share was down to 0.3 percent. Universities have retreated from area studies, so we have specialists in international theory who know little that is practical about the world. After the Arab Spring, a study by the Stimson Center looked back at whether various sectors had foreseen the possibility of upheavals. It found that scholars were among the most oblivious - partly because they relied upon quantitative models or theoretical constructs that had been useless in predicting unrest. Many academic disciplines also reduce their influence by neglecting political diversity. Sociology, for example, should be central to so many national issues, but it is so dominated by the left that it is instinctively dismissed by the right. In contrast, economics is a rare academic field with a significant Republican presence, and that helps tether economic debates to real-world debates. That may be one reason, along with empiricism and rigor, why economists (including my colleague in columny, Paul Krugman) shape debates on issues from health care to education. Professors today have a growing number of tools available to educate the public, from online courses to blogs to social media. Yet academics have been slow to cast pearls through Twitter and Facebook. Likewise, it was TED Talks by nonscholars that made lectures fun to watch (but I owe a shout-out to the Teaching Company's lectures, which have enlivened our family's car rides). I write this in sorrow, for I considered an academic career and deeply admire the wisdom found on university campuses. So, professors, don't cloister yourselves like medieval monks - we need you! I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, On the Ground. Please also join me on Facebook and Google+, watch my YouTube videos and follow me on Twitter. A version of this op-ed appears in print on February 16, 2014, on page SR11 of the New York edition with the headline: Smart Minds, Slim Impact. Order Reprints|Today's Paper|Subscribe From glassman.13@osu.edu Sun Feb 16 10:25:31 2014 From: glassman.13@osu.edu (Glassman, Michael) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:25:31 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Professors, We Need You! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB156170@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> An excellent rejoinder to Kristof's piece by Corey Robin. Plenty of great academic writers writing in the public sphere, especially the generation coming up. http://coreyrobin.com/2014/02/16/look-who-nick-kristofs-saving-now/ It's interesting to see the the phrase digital divide is taking on multiple meanings (generational divide, language divide, power divide, dissemination divide). Michael ________________________________________ From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Peter Smagorinsky [smago@uga.edu] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:09 AM To: LEGO-L@listserv.uga.edu; LLE-L@listserv.uga.edu; (NCRLL@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU); eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity; Jack Parish; Ronald M Cervero Cc: Hillocks@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: [Xmca-l] Professors, We Need You! Professors, We Need You! FEB. 15, 2014 Nicholas Kristof SOME of the smartest thinkers on problems at home and around the world are university professors, but most of them just don't matter in today's great debates. The most stinging dismissal of a point is to say: "That's academic." In other words, to be a scholar is, often, to be irrelevant. One reason is the anti-intellectualism in American life, the kind that led Rick Santorum to scold President Obama as "a snob" for wanting more kids to go to college, or that led congressional Republicans to denounce spending on social science research. Yet it's not just that America has marginalized some of its sharpest minds. They have also marginalized themselves. "All the disciplines have become more and more specialized and more and more quantitative, making them less and less accessible to the general public," notes Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former dean of the Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton and now the president of the New America Foundation. There are plenty of exceptions, of course, including in economics, history and some sciences, in professional schools like law and business, and, above all, in schools of public policy; for that matter, we have a law professor in the White House. But, over all, there are, I think, fewer public intellectuals on American university campuses today than a generation ago. A basic challenge is that Ph.D. programs have fostered a culture that glorifies arcane unintelligibility while disdaining impact and audience. This culture of exclusivity is then transmitted to the next generation through the publish-or-perish tenure process. Rebels are too often crushed or driven away. "Many academics frown on public pontificating as a frivolous distraction from real research," said Will McCants, a Middle East specialist at the Brookings Institution. "This attitude affects tenure decisions. If the sine qua non for academic success is peer-reviewed publications, then academics who 'waste their time' writing for the masses will be penalized." The latest attempt by academia to wall itself off from the world came when the executive council of the prestigious International Studies Association proposed that its publication editors be barred from having personal blogs. The association might as well scream: We want our scholars to be less influential! A related problem is that academics seeking tenure must encode their insights into turgid prose. As a double protection against public consumption, this gobbledygook is then sometimes hidden in obscure journals - or published by university presses whose reputations for soporifics keep readers at a distance. Jill Lepore, a Harvard historian who writes for The New Yorker and is an exception to everything said here, noted the result: "a great, heaping mountain of exquisite knowledge surrounded by a vast moat of dreadful prose." As experiments, scholars have periodically submitted meaningless gibberish to scholarly journals - only to have the nonsense respectfully published. My onetime love, political science, is a particular offender and seems to be trying, in terms of practical impact, to commit suicide. "Political science Ph.D.'s often aren't prepared to do real-world analysis," says Ian Bremmer, a Stanford political science Ph.D. who runs the Eurasia Group, a consulting firm. In the late 1930s and early 1940s, one-fifth of articles in The American Political Science Review focused on policy prescriptions; at last count, the share was down to 0.3 percent. Universities have retreated from area studies, so we have specialists in international theory who know little that is practical about the world. After the Arab Spring, a study by the Stimson Center looked back at whether various sectors had foreseen the possibility of upheavals. It found that scholars were among the most oblivious - partly because they relied upon quantitative models or theoretical constructs that had been useless in predicting unrest. Many academic disciplines also reduce their influence by neglecting political diversity. Sociology, for example, should be central to so many national issues, but it is so dominated by the left that it is instinctively dismissed by the right. In contrast, economics is a rare academic field with a significant Republican presence, and that helps tether economic debates to real-world debates. That may be one reason, along with empiricism and rigor, why economists (including my colleague in columny, Paul Krugman) shape debates on issues from health care to education. Professors today have a growing number of tools available to educate the public, from online courses to blogs to social media. Yet academics have been slow to cast pearls through Twitter and Facebook. Likewise, it was TED Talks by nonscholars that made lectures fun to watch (but I owe a shout-out to the Teaching Company's lectures, which have enlivened our family's car rides). I write this in sorrow, for I considered an academic career and deeply admire the wisdom found on university campuses. So, professors, don't cloister yourselves like medieval monks - we need you! I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, On the Ground. Please also join me on Facebook and Google+, watch my YouTube videos and follow me on Twitter. A version of this op-ed appears in print on February 16, 2014, on page SR11 of the New York edition with the headline: Smart Minds, Slim Impact. Order Reprints|Today's Paper|Subscribe From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Sun Feb 16 14:46:32 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 17:46:32 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Stuart Hall obituary Message-ID: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/10/stuart-hall Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com? www.paulcmocombe.info? From huw.softdesigns@gmail.com Sun Feb 16 18:13:46 2014 From: huw.softdesigns@gmail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 02:13:46 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Stuart Hall obituary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "His conviction that Thatcherism would define the politically possible, long after Thatcher herself had departed, proved enormously prescient, providing a key to understanding the politics not only of New Labour, but also of the subsequent coalition." http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2012/feb/11/saturday-interview-stuart-hall "The left is in trouble. It's not got any ideas, it's not got any independent analysis of its own, and therefore it's got no vision. It just takes the temperature: 'Whoa, that's no good, let's move to the right.' It has no sense of politics being educative, of politics changing the way people see things." http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/bfi-film-releases/stuart-hall-project On 16 February 2014 22:46, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe wrote: > http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/10/stuart-hall > > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > President > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > www.mocombeian.com > www.readingroomcurriculum.com > www.paulcmocombe.info From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 17 03:30:39 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:30:39 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: Professors We Need You In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8411bfd1654d4343a0e684e18aa579eb@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> the Public Influence rankings From smago@uga.edu Mon Feb 17 10:01:34 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] public scholar and influence Message-ID: <43fab306fa644f9e8e5dc384e3e8110d@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> This issue hasn't gotten much traction in terms of discussion (beginning with the NYT piece by Kristoff I posted, followed by Michael G's post of a response by a scoffer). Independent of those, a guy from the American Enterprise Institute has created a metric for evaluating university professors' public influence, published at: http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/rick_hess_straight_up/2014/01/the_2014_rhsu_edu-scholar_public_influence_rankings.html A friend of mine blogged this riposte in response: http://radicalscholarship.wordpress.com/2014/01/10/should-universities-reward-academics-for-public-influence/ It's an interesting question. For years I wrote only to other teachers and researchers, but since 2010 have begun writing more for newspapers, primarily the Atlanta, GA paper's education blog. I consider this public writing a sideline to my scholarly writing, but as Paul argues in the second link, it probably has more influence than any journal article I could ever write. One of the metrics used to measure influence is Klout, which seems where you go in order to promote yourself via social media. I'm pretty conflicted about this. It probably is good for your career and your ideas, but to an old-school guy like me, seems unseemly for a university scholar. From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Mon Feb 17 13:39:58 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:39:58 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: Message-ID: <0umt0iss7iw3539hjvt1m6jl.1392673198277@email.android.com> Scholars interested in submitting a paper... Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com? www.paulcmocombe.info?
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In psychology an important part of the problem is the distinction between basic and applied science. Those who make this distinction and value basic science believe that basic science leads to Truth and dismiss applied science. Participation in public debates then is seen as a distraction at best. Basic science in psychology typically means studying people in laboratories designed to seek basic principles by isolating participants from the context of their everyday lives. The bad news is that separating people from context can lead to limited and, often, inaccurate knowledge. The good news is that there are areas of psychology where many researchers reject the distinction between basic and applied science. They study people in context and often participate in public debates about their work and its implications for public policy (see www.scra27.org and www.spssi.org). One model for this work combines basic and applied science ??where no action step is contemplated without questioning about its theoretical significance and no speculation about underlying processes occurs without asking about its action implications?? (Price & Behrens, 2003, p. 222). Reference Price, R. H., & Behrens, T. (2003). Working Pasteur?s quadrant: Harnessing science and action for community change. American Journal of Community Psychology, 31, 219?223. doi:10.1023/A:1023950402338. Cliff O'Donnell On Feb 16, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > Professors, We Need You! > > FEB. 15, 2014 Nicholas Kristof > > > SOME of the smartest thinkers on problems at home and around the > world are university professors, but most of them just don't matter > in today's great debates. > > The most stinging dismissal of a point is to say: "That's academic." > In other words, to be a scholar is, often, to be irrelevant. > > One reason is the anti-intellectualism in American life, the kind > that led Rick Santorum to scold President Obama > as "a snob" for wanting more kids to go to college, or that led > congressional Republicans to denounce spending on social science > research >. Yet it's not just that America has marginalized some of its > sharpest minds. They have also marginalized themselves. > > "All the disciplines have become more and more specialized and more > and more quantitative, making them less and less accessible to the > general public," notes Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former dean of the > Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton and now the president of the New > America Foundation. > > There are plenty of exceptions, of course, including in economics, > history and some sciences, in professional schools like law and > business, and, above all, in schools of public policy; for that > matter, we have a law professor in the White House. But, over all, > there are, I think, fewer public intellectuals on American > university campuses today than a generation ago. > > A basic challenge is that Ph.D. programs have fostered a culture > that glorifies arcane unintelligibility while disdaining impact and > audience. This culture of exclusivity is then transmitted to the > next generation through the publish-or-perish tenure process. Rebels > are too often crushed or driven away. > > "Many academics frown on public pontificating as a frivolous > distraction from real research," said Will McCants, a Middle East > specialist at the Brookings Institution. "This attitude affects > tenure decisions. If the sine qua non for academic success is peer- > reviewed publications, then academics who 'waste their time' writing > for the masses will be penalized." > > The latest attempt by academia to wall itself off from the world > came when the executive council of the prestigious International > Studies Association proposed that its publication editors be barred > from having personal blogs >. The association might as well scream: We want our scholars to be > less influential! > > A related problem is that academics seeking tenure must encode their > insights into turgid prose. As a double protection against public > consumption, this gobbledygook is then sometimes hidden in obscure > journals - or published by university presses whose reputations for > soporifics keep readers at a distance. > > Jill Lepore, a Harvard historian > who writes for The New Yorker and is an exception to everything said > here, noted the result >: "a great, heaping mountain of exquisite knowledge surrounded by a > vast moat of dreadful prose." > > As experiments, scholars have periodically submitted meaningless > gibberish to scholarly journals - only to have the nonsense > respectfully published. > > My onetime love, political science, is a particular offender and > seems to be trying, in terms of practical impact, to commit suicide. > > "Political science Ph.D.'s often aren't prepared to do real-world > analysis," says Ian Bremmer >, a Stanford political science Ph.D. who runs the Eurasia Group, a > consulting firm. In the late 1930s and early 1940s, one-fifth of > articles in The American Political Science Review > focused on policy prescriptions; at last count, the share was down > to 0.3 percent. > > Universities have retreated from area studies, so we have > specialists in international theory who know little that is > practical about the world. After the Arab Spring, a study by the > Stimson Center > looked back at whether various sectors had foreseen the > possibility of upheavals. It found that scholars were among the most > oblivious - partly because they relied upon quantitative models or > theoretical constructs that had been useless in predicting unrest. > > Many academic disciplines also reduce their influence by neglecting > political diversity. Sociology, for example, should be central to so > many national issues, but it is so dominated by the left that it is > instinctively dismissed by the right. > > In contrast, economics is a rare academic field with a significant > Republican presence, and that helps tether economic debates to real- > world debates. That may be one reason, along with empiricism and > rigor, why economists (including my colleague in columny, Paul > Krugman) shape debates on issues from health care to education. > > Professors today have a growing number of tools available to educate > the public, from online courses to blogs to social media. Yet > academics have been slow to cast pearls through Twitter and > Facebook. Likewise, it was TED Talks by nonscholars that made > lectures fun to watch (but I owe a shout-out to the Teaching > Company's lectures, which have enlivened our family's car rides). > > I write this in sorrow, for I considered an academic career and > deeply admire the wisdom found on university campuses. So, > professors, don't cloister yourselves like medieval monks - we need > you! > > I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, On the Ground >. Please also join me on Facebook > and Google+ hl=en>, watch my YouTube videos nicholaskristof> and follow me on Twitter >. > > A version of this op-ed appears in print on February 16, 2014, on > page SR11 of the New York edition with the headline: Smart Minds, > Slim Impact. Order Reprints >|Today's Paper| > Subscribe > > Clifford R. O'Donnell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus Past-President, Society for Community Research and Action (APA Division 27) University of Hawai?i Department of Psychology 2530 Dole Street Honolulu, HI 96822 From lchcmike@gmail.com Mon Feb 17 15:32:49 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:32:49 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Professors, We Need You! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to you both. Locally the discussion is around "public scholarship." Lots to rhetoric aimed at audiences on the inside, little action vis a vis the outside. mike On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Cliff O'Donnell wrote: > Thank you, Peter, for bringing Kristof's piece to our attention. In > psychology an important part of the problem is the distinction between > basic and applied science. Those who make this distinction and value basic > science believe that basic science leads to Truth and dismiss applied > science. Participation in public debates then is seen as a distraction at > best. Basic science in psychology typically means studying people in > laboratories designed to seek basic principles by isolating participants > from the context of their everyday lives. > > The bad news is that separating people from context can lead to limited > and, often, inaccurate knowledge. The good news is that there are areas of > psychology where many researchers reject the distinction between basic and > applied science. They study people in context and often participate in > public debates about their work and its implications for public policy (see > www.scra27.org and www.spssi.org). One model for this work combines basic > and applied science ''where no action step is contemplated without > questioning about its theoretical significance and no speculation about > underlying processes occurs without asking about its action implications'' > (Price & Behrens, 2003, p. 222). > > Reference > Price, R. H., & Behrens, T. (2003). Working Pasteur's quadrant: Harnessing > science and action for community change. American Journal of Community > Psychology, 31, 219-223. doi:10.1023/A:1023950402338. > > Cliff O'Donnell > > > On Feb 16, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > Professors, We Need You! >> >> FEB. 15, 2014 Nicholas Kristof > top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/nicholasdkristof/index.html >> > >> >> SOME of the smartest thinkers on problems at home and around the world >> are university professors, but most of them just don't matter in today's >> great debates. >> >> The most stinging dismissal of a point is to say: "That's academic." In >> other words, to be a scholar is, often, to be irrelevant. >> >> One reason is the anti-intellectualism in American life, the kind that >> led Rick Santorum to scold President Obama> watch?v=NkjbJOSwq3A> as "a snob" for wanting more kids to go to college, >> or that led congressional Republicans to denounce spending on social >> science research> studies-under-strain-around-the-globe.html>. Yet it's not just that >> America has marginalized some of its sharpest minds. They have also >> marginalized themselves. >> >> "All the disciplines have become more and more specialized and more and >> more quantitative, making them less and less accessible to the general >> public," notes Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former dean of the Woodrow Wilson >> School at Princeton and now the president of the New America Foundation. >> >> There are plenty of exceptions, of course, including in economics, >> history and some sciences, in professional schools like law and business, >> and, above all, in schools of public policy; for that matter, we have a law >> professor in the White House. But, over all, there are, I think, fewer >> public intellectuals on American university campuses today than a >> generation ago. >> >> A basic challenge is that Ph.D. programs have fostered a culture that >> glorifies arcane unintelligibility while disdaining impact and audience. >> This culture of exclusivity is then transmitted to the next generation >> through the publish-or-perish tenure process. Rebels are too often crushed >> or driven away. >> >> "Many academics frown on public pontificating as a frivolous distraction >> from real research," said Will McCants, a Middle East specialist at the >> Brookings Institution. "This attitude affects tenure decisions. If the sine >> qua non for academic success is peer-reviewed publications, then academics >> who 'waste their time' writing for the masses will be penalized." >> >> The latest attempt by academia to wall itself off from the world came >> when the executive council of the prestigious International Studies >> Association proposed that its publication editors be barred from having >> personal blogs> 01/29/international-studies-association-proposes-bar-editors-blogging>. >> The association might as well scream: We want our scholars to be less >> influential! >> >> A related problem is that academics seeking tenure must encode their >> insights into turgid prose. As a double protection against public >> consumption, this gobbledygook is then sometimes hidden in obscure journals >> - or published by university presses whose reputations for soporifics keep >> readers at a distance. >> >> Jill Lepore, a Harvard historian who >> writes for The New Yorker and is an exception to everything said here, >> noted the result> Letters/141291/>: "a great, heaping mountain of exquisite knowledge >> surrounded by a vast moat of dreadful prose." >> >> As experiments, scholars have periodically submitted meaningless >> gibberish to scholarly journals - only to have the nonsense respectfully >> published. >> >> My onetime love, political science, is a particular offender and seems to >> be trying, in terms of practical impact, to commit suicide. >> >> "Political science Ph.D.'s often aren't prepared to do real-world >> analysis," says Ian Bremmer> net/about-eurasia-group/who-is/ian-bremmer>, a Stanford political >> science Ph.D. who runs the Eurasia Group, a consulting firm. In the late >> 1930s and early 1940s, one-fifth of articles in The American Political >> Science Review> evolutionEssay.pdf> focused on policy prescriptions; at last count, the >> share was down to 0.3 percent. >> >> Universities have retreated from area studies, so we have specialists in >> international theory who know little that is practical about the world. >> After the Arab Spring, a study by the Stimson Center< >> http://www.stimson.org/images/uploads/research-pdfs/ >> Full_Pub_-_Seismic_Shift.pdf> looked back at whether various sectors had >> foreseen the possibility of upheavals. It found that scholars were among >> the most oblivious - partly because they relied upon quantitative models or >> theoretical constructs that had been useless in predicting unrest. >> >> Many academic disciplines also reduce their influence by neglecting >> political diversity. Sociology, for example, should be central to so many >> national issues, but it is so dominated by the left that it is >> instinctively dismissed by the right. >> >> In contrast, economics is a rare academic field with a significant >> Republican presence, and that helps tether economic debates to real-world >> debates. That may be one reason, along with empiricism and rigor, why >> economists (including my colleague in columny, Paul Krugman) shape debates >> on issues from health care to education. >> >> Professors today have a growing number of tools available to educate the >> public, from online courses to blogs to social media. Yet academics have >> been slow to cast pearls through Twitter and Facebook. Likewise, it was TED >> Talks by nonscholars that made lectures fun to watch (but I owe a shout-out >> to the Teaching Company's lectures, which have enlivened our family's car >> rides). >> >> I write this in sorrow, for I considered an academic career and deeply >> admire the wisdom found on university campuses. So, professors, don't >> cloister yourselves like medieval monks - we need you! >> >> I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, On the Ground< >> http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground>. Please also join me on Facebook< >> http://www.facebook.com/kristof> and Google+> com/102839963139173448834/posts?hl=en>, watch my YouTube videos< >> http://www.youtube.com/nicholaskristof> and follow me on Twitter< >> http://twitter.com/nickkristof>. >> >> A version of this op-ed appears in print on February 16, 2014, on page >> SR11 of the New York edition with the headline: Smart Minds, Slim Impact. >> Order Reprints> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2014%2F02%2F16%2Fopinion% >> 2Fsunday%2Fkristof-professors-we-need-you.html& >> publisherName=The+New+York+Times&publication=nytimes.com& >> token=&orderBeanReset=true&postType=&wordCount=795&title= >> Professors%2C+We+Need+You%21&publicationDate=Feb.+15%2C+ >> 2014&author=By%20Nicholas%20Kristof>|Today's Paper< >> http://www.nytimes.com/pages/todayspaper/index.html>|Subscribe< >> http://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp5558.html?> >> >> > Clifford R. O'Donnell, Ph.D. > Professor Emeritus > Past-President, Society for Community Research and Action (APA Division 27) > > University of Hawai'i > Department of Psychology > 2530 Dole Street > Honolulu, HI 96822 > > > From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Mon Feb 17 15:58:07 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:58:07 -0200 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Professors, We Need You! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <810F9FA9-3C41-4BF6-9FEF-6861767609DB@gmail.com> I don't really think that academic work needs publicity to be of public relevance. We teach thousands of students. That's a public activity. Maybe the most important one. Many of those teaching do that as adjuncts without proper recognition and job security. Many others do work that has public relevance however it is not publicized by the new celebrity circuit that has been so damaging to intellectual life. And to be honest I see the NYT piece closer to that celebrity circuit than to those communities of practice and inquiry that give true value and meaning to to the intellectual work of any university, global or local. Certainly we need public intellectuals. But who is not one? Academia is inherently public. What we don't need is to feed the celebrity system with academics turned into "stars". Why? Because stars are beyond the dialogical nature of a good and nurturing academic life. David Enviado desde mi iPhone El 17-02-2014, a las 21:32, mike cole escribi?: > Thanks to you both. > Locally the discussion is around "public scholarship." Lots to rhetoric > aimed > at audiences on the inside, little action vis a vis the outside. > mike > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Cliff O'Donnell wrote: > >> Thank you, Peter, for bringing Kristof's piece to our attention. In >> psychology an important part of the problem is the distinction between >> basic and applied science. Those who make this distinction and value basic >> science believe that basic science leads to Truth and dismiss applied >> science. Participation in public debates then is seen as a distraction at >> best. Basic science in psychology typically means studying people in >> laboratories designed to seek basic principles by isolating participants >> from the context of their everyday lives. >> >> The bad news is that separating people from context can lead to limited >> and, often, inaccurate knowledge. The good news is that there are areas of >> psychology where many researchers reject the distinction between basic and >> applied science. They study people in context and often participate in >> public debates about their work and its implications for public policy (see >> www.scra27.org and www.spssi.org). One model for this work combines basic >> and applied science ''where no action step is contemplated without >> questioning about its theoretical significance and no speculation about >> underlying processes occurs without asking about its action implications'' >> (Price & Behrens, 2003, p. 222). >> >> Reference >> Price, R. H., & Behrens, T. (2003). Working Pasteur's quadrant: Harnessing >> science and action for community change. American Journal of Community >> Psychology, 31, 219-223. doi:10.1023/A:1023950402338. >> >> Cliff O'Donnell >> >> >> On Feb 16, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: >> >> Professors, We Need You! >>> >>> FEB. 15, 2014 Nicholas Kristof >> top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/nicholasdkristof/index.html >>> >>> SOME of the smartest thinkers on problems at home and around the world >>> are university professors, but most of them just don't matter in today's >>> great debates. >>> >>> The most stinging dismissal of a point is to say: "That's academic." In >>> other words, to be a scholar is, often, to be irrelevant. >>> >>> One reason is the anti-intellectualism in American life, the kind that >>> led Rick Santorum to scold President Obama>> watch?v=NkjbJOSwq3A> as "a snob" for wanting more kids to go to college, >>> or that led congressional Republicans to denounce spending on social >>> science research>> studies-under-strain-around-the-globe.html>. Yet it's not just that >>> America has marginalized some of its sharpest minds. They have also >>> marginalized themselves. >>> >>> "All the disciplines have become more and more specialized and more and >>> more quantitative, making them less and less accessible to the general >>> public," notes Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former dean of the Woodrow Wilson >>> School at Princeton and now the president of the New America Foundation. >>> >>> There are plenty of exceptions, of course, including in economics, >>> history and some sciences, in professional schools like law and business, >>> and, above all, in schools of public policy; for that matter, we have a law >>> professor in the White House. But, over all, there are, I think, fewer >>> public intellectuals on American university campuses today than a >>> generation ago. >>> >>> A basic challenge is that Ph.D. programs have fostered a culture that >>> glorifies arcane unintelligibility while disdaining impact and audience. >>> This culture of exclusivity is then transmitted to the next generation >>> through the publish-or-perish tenure process. Rebels are too often crushed >>> or driven away. >>> >>> "Many academics frown on public pontificating as a frivolous distraction >>> from real research," said Will McCants, a Middle East specialist at the >>> Brookings Institution. "This attitude affects tenure decisions. If the sine >>> qua non for academic success is peer-reviewed publications, then academics >>> who 'waste their time' writing for the masses will be penalized." >>> >>> The latest attempt by academia to wall itself off from the world came >>> when the executive council of the prestigious International Studies >>> Association proposed that its publication editors be barred from having >>> personal blogs>> 01/29/international-studies-association-proposes-bar-editors-blogging>. >>> The association might as well scream: We want our scholars to be less >>> influential! >>> >>> A related problem is that academics seeking tenure must encode their >>> insights into turgid prose. As a double protection against public >>> consumption, this gobbledygook is then sometimes hidden in obscure journals >>> - or published by university presses whose reputations for soporifics keep >>> readers at a distance. >>> >>> Jill Lepore, a Harvard historian who >>> writes for The New Yorker and is an exception to everything said here, >>> noted the result>> Letters/141291/>: "a great, heaping mountain of exquisite knowledge >>> surrounded by a vast moat of dreadful prose." >>> >>> As experiments, scholars have periodically submitted meaningless >>> gibberish to scholarly journals - only to have the nonsense respectfully >>> published. >>> >>> My onetime love, political science, is a particular offender and seems to >>> be trying, in terms of practical impact, to commit suicide. >>> >>> "Political science Ph.D.'s often aren't prepared to do real-world >>> analysis," says Ian Bremmer>> net/about-eurasia-group/who-is/ian-bremmer>, a Stanford political >>> science Ph.D. who runs the Eurasia Group, a consulting firm. In the late >>> 1930s and early 1940s, one-fifth of articles in The American Political >>> Science Review>> evolutionEssay.pdf> focused on policy prescriptions; at last count, the >>> share was down to 0.3 percent. >>> >>> Universities have retreated from area studies, so we have specialists in >>> international theory who know little that is practical about the world. >>> After the Arab Spring, a study by the Stimson Center< >>> http://www.stimson.org/images/uploads/research-pdfs/ >>> Full_Pub_-_Seismic_Shift.pdf> looked back at whether various sectors had >>> foreseen the possibility of upheavals. It found that scholars were among >>> the most oblivious - partly because they relied upon quantitative models or >>> theoretical constructs that had been useless in predicting unrest. >>> >>> Many academic disciplines also reduce their influence by neglecting >>> political diversity. Sociology, for example, should be central to so many >>> national issues, but it is so dominated by the left that it is >>> instinctively dismissed by the right. >>> >>> In contrast, economics is a rare academic field with a significant >>> Republican presence, and that helps tether economic debates to real-world >>> debates. That may be one reason, along with empiricism and rigor, why >>> economists (including my colleague in columny, Paul Krugman) shape debates >>> on issues from health care to education. >>> >>> Professors today have a growing number of tools available to educate the >>> public, from online courses to blogs to social media. Yet academics have >>> been slow to cast pearls through Twitter and Facebook. Likewise, it was TED >>> Talks by nonscholars that made lectures fun to watch (but I owe a shout-out >>> to the Teaching Company's lectures, which have enlivened our family's car >>> rides). >>> >>> I write this in sorrow, for I considered an academic career and deeply >>> admire the wisdom found on university campuses. So, professors, don't >>> cloister yourselves like medieval monks - we need you! >>> >>> I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, On the Ground< >>> http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground>. Please also join me on Facebook< >>> http://www.facebook.com/kristof> and Google+>> com/102839963139173448834/posts?hl=en>, watch my YouTube videos< >>> http://www.youtube.com/nicholaskristof> and follow me on Twitter< >>> http://twitter.com/nickkristof>. >>> >>> A version of this op-ed appears in print on February 16, 2014, on page >>> SR11 of the New York edition with the headline: Smart Minds, Slim Impact. >>> Order Reprints>> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2014%2F02%2F16%2Fopinion% >>> 2Fsunday%2Fkristof-professors-we-need-you.html& >>> publisherName=The+New+York+Times&publication=nytimes.com& >>> token=&orderBeanReset=true&postType=&wordCount=795&title= >>> Professors%2C+We+Need+You%21&publicationDate=Feb.+15%2C+ >>> 2014&author=By%20Nicholas%20Kristof>|Today's Paper< >>> http://www.nytimes.com/pages/todayspaper/index.html>|Subscribe< >>> http://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp5558.html?> >> Clifford R. O'Donnell, Ph.D. >> Professor Emeritus >> Past-President, Society for Community Research and Action (APA Division 27) >> >> University of Hawai'i >> Department of Psychology >> 2530 Dole Street >> Honolulu, HI 96822 >> >> >> From rsanto@indiana.edu Mon Feb 17 16:55:01 2014 From: rsanto@indiana.edu (Rafi Santo) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:55:01 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Professors, We Need You! In-Reply-To: <810F9FA9-3C41-4BF6-9FEF-6861767609DB@gmail.com> References: <810F9FA9-3C41-4BF6-9FEF-6861767609DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9BE0D6025AC14EF591005D9C254F2DB3@umail.iu.edu> Henry Jenkins recently ran a course at USC called ?Public Intellectuals: Theory and Practice?, which, from reading the syllabus below, seemed like it was quite interesting in terms of approaching these questions from both a basic and applied perspective (as it should!): http://henryjenkins.org/2013/08/public-intellectuals-theory-and-practice.html Part of what we should take care with in a debate like this are binaries of ?public intellectual versus not public intellectual?. It?s likely a lot more productive to ask critical questions about how our scholarship is social/public/related to those outside of the academy, and to what ends. To me, there are many ways to do this. Even within Pasteur?s Quadrant I believe there are myriad forms and many yet to be invented, some of which are likely pathological and others virtuous (and many, as with most things, a little of both). -- Rafi Santo Project Lead Hive Research Lab hiveresearchlab.org Indiana University - Learning Sciences On Monday, February 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM, David Preiss wrote: > I don't really think that academic work needs publicity to be of public relevance. We teach thousands of students. That's a public activity. Maybe the most important one. Many of those teaching do that as adjuncts without proper recognition and job security. Many others do work that has public relevance however it is not publicized by the new celebrity circuit that has been so damaging to intellectual life. And to be honest I see the NYT piece closer to that celebrity circuit than to those communities of practice and inquiry that give true value and meaning to to the intellectual work of any university, global or local. Certainly we need public intellectuals. But who is not one? Academia is inherently public. What we don't need is to feed the celebrity system with academics turned into "stars". Why? Because stars are beyond the dialogical nature of a good and nurturing academic life. > David > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 17-02-2014, a las 21:32, mike cole escribi?: > > > Thanks to you both. > > Locally the discussion is around "public scholarship." Lots to rhetoric > > aimed > > at audiences on the inside, little action vis a vis the outside. > > mike > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Cliff O'Donnell wrote: > > > > > Thank you, Peter, for bringing Kristof's piece to our attention. In > > > psychology an important part of the problem is the distinction between > > > basic and applied science. Those who make this distinction and value basic > > > science believe that basic science leads to Truth and dismiss applied > > > science. Participation in public debates then is seen as a distraction at > > > best. Basic science in psychology typically means studying people in > > > laboratories designed to seek basic principles by isolating participants > > > from the context of their everyday lives. > > > > > > The bad news is that separating people from context can lead to limited > > > and, often, inaccurate knowledge. The good news is that there are areas of > > > psychology where many researchers reject the distinction between basic and > > > applied science. They study people in context and often participate in > > > public debates about their work and its implications for public policy (see > > > www.scra27.org (http://www.scra27.org) and www.spssi.org (http://www.spssi.org)). One model for this work combines basic > > > and applied science ''where no action step is contemplated without > > > questioning about its theoretical significance and no speculation about > > > underlying processes occurs without asking about its action implications'' > > > (Price & Behrens, 2003, p. 222). > > > > > > Reference > > > Price, R. H., & Behrens, T. (2003). Working Pasteur's quadrant: Harnessing > > > science and action for community change. American Journal of Community > > > Psychology, 31, 219-223. doi:10.1023/A:1023950402338. > > > > > > Cliff O'Donnell > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > > > > > Professors, We Need You! > > > > > > > > FEB. 15, 2014 Nicholas Kristof > > > top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/nicholasdkristof/index.html > > > > > > > > SOME of the smartest thinkers on problems at home and around the world > > > > are university professors, but most of them just don't matter in today's > > > > great debates. > > > > > > > > The most stinging dismissal of a point is to say: "That's academic." In > > > > other words, to be a scholar is, often, to be irrelevant. > > > > > > > > One reason is the anti-intellectualism in American life, the kind that > > > > led Rick Santorum to scold President Obama > > > watch?v=NkjbJOSwq3A> as "a snob" for wanting more kids to go to college, > > > > or that led congressional Republicans to denounce spending on social > > > > science research > > > studies-under-strain-around-the-globe.html>. Yet it's not just that > > > > America has marginalized some of its sharpest minds. They have also > > > > marginalized themselves. > > > > > > > > "All the disciplines have become more and more specialized and more and > > > > more quantitative, making them less and less accessible to the general > > > > public," notes Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former dean of the Woodrow Wilson > > > > School at Princeton and now the president of the New America Foundation. > > > > > > > > There are plenty of exceptions, of course, including in economics, > > > > history and some sciences, in professional schools like law and business, > > > > and, above all, in schools of public policy; for that matter, we have a law > > > > professor in the White House. But, over all, there are, I think, fewer > > > > public intellectuals on American university campuses today than a > > > > generation ago. > > > > > > > > A basic challenge is that Ph.D. programs have fostered a culture that > > > > glorifies arcane unintelligibility while disdaining impact and audience. > > > > This culture of exclusivity is then transmitted to the next generation > > > > through the publish-or-perish tenure process. Rebels are too often crushed > > > > or driven away. > > > > > > > > "Many academics frown on public pontificating as a frivolous distraction > > > > from real research," said Will McCants, a Middle East specialist at the > > > > Brookings Institution. "This attitude affects tenure decisions. If the sine > > > > qua non for academic success is peer-reviewed publications, then academics > > > > who 'waste their time' writing for the masses will be penalized." > > > > > > > > The latest attempt by academia to wall itself off from the world came > > > > when the executive council of the prestigious International Studies > > > > Association proposed that its publication editors be barred from having > > > > personal blogs > > > 01/29/international-studies-association-proposes-bar-editors-blogging>. > > > > The association might as well scream: We want our scholars to be less > > > > influential! > > > > > > > > A related problem is that academics seeking tenure must encode their > > > > insights into turgid prose. As a double protection against public > > > > consumption, this gobbledygook is then sometimes hidden in obscure journals > > > > - or published by university presses whose reputations for soporifics keep > > > > readers at a distance. > > > > > > > > Jill Lepore, a Harvard historian who > > > > writes for The New Yorker and is an exception to everything said here, > > > > noted the result > > > Letters/141291/>: "a great, heaping mountain of exquisite knowledge > > > > surrounded by a vast moat of dreadful prose." > > > > > > > > As experiments, scholars have periodically submitted meaningless > > > > gibberish to scholarly journals - only to have the nonsense respectfully > > > > published. > > > > > > > > My onetime love, political science, is a particular offender and seems to > > > > be trying, in terms of practical impact, to commit suicide. > > > > > > > > "Political science Ph.D.'s often aren't prepared to do real-world > > > > analysis," says Ian Bremmer > > > net/about-eurasia-group/who-is/ian-bremmer>, a Stanford political > > > > science Ph.D. who runs the Eurasia Group, a consulting firm. In the late > > > > 1930s and early 1940s, one-fifth of articles in The American Political > > > > Science Review > > > evolutionEssay.pdf> focused on policy prescriptions; at last count, the > > > > share was down to 0.3 percent. > > > > > > > > Universities have retreated from area studies, so we have specialists in > > > > international theory who know little that is practical about the world. > > > > After the Arab Spring, a study by the Stimson Center< > > > > http://www.stimson.org/images/uploads/research-pdfs/ > > > > Full_Pub_-_Seismic_Shift.pdf> looked back at whether various sectors had > > > > foreseen the possibility of upheavals. It found that scholars were among > > > > the most oblivious - partly because they relied upon quantitative models or > > > > theoretical constructs that had been useless in predicting unrest. > > > > > > > > Many academic disciplines also reduce their influence by neglecting > > > > political diversity. Sociology, for example, should be central to so many > > > > national issues, but it is so dominated by the left that it is > > > > instinctively dismissed by the right. > > > > > > > > In contrast, economics is a rare academic field with a significant > > > > Republican presence, and that helps tether economic debates to real-world > > > > debates. That may be one reason, along with empiricism and rigor, why > > > > economists (including my colleague in columny, Paul Krugman) shape debates > > > > on issues from health care to education. > > > > > > > > Professors today have a growing number of tools available to educate the > > > > public, from online courses to blogs to social media. Yet academics have > > > > been slow to cast pearls through Twitter and Facebook. Likewise, it was TED > > > > Talks by nonscholars that made lectures fun to watch (but I owe a shout-out > > > > to the Teaching Company's lectures, which have enlivened our family's car > > > > rides). > > > > > > > > I write this in sorrow, for I considered an academic career and deeply > > > > admire the wisdom found on university campuses. So, professors, don't > > > > cloister yourselves like medieval monks - we need you! > > > > > > > > I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, On the Ground< > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground>. Please also join me on Facebook< > > > > http://www.facebook.com/kristof> and Google+ > > > com/102839963139173448834/posts?hl=en>, watch my YouTube videos< > > > > http://www.youtube.com/nicholaskristof> and follow me on Twitter< > > > > http://twitter.com/nickkristof>. > > > > > > > > A version of this op-ed appears in print on February 16, 2014, on page > > > > SR11 of the New York edition with the headline: Smart Minds, Slim Impact. > > > > Order Reprints > > > http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com)%2F2014%2F02%2F16%2Fopinion% > > > > 2Fsunday%2Fkristof-professors-we-need-you.html& > > > > publisherName=The+New+York+Times&publication=nytimes.com (http://nytimes.com)& > > > > token=&orderBeanReset=true&postType=&wordCount=795&title= > > > > Professors%2C+We+Need+You%21&publicationDate=Feb.+15%2C+ > > > > 2014&author=By%20Nicholas%20Kristof>|Today's Paper< > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/pages/todayspaper/index.html>|Subscribe< > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp5558.html?> > > > > > > > > > > Clifford R. O'Donnell, Ph.D. > > > Professor Emeritus > > > Past-President, Society for Community Research and Action (APA Division 27) > > > > > > University of Hawai'i > > > Department of Psychology > > > 2530 Dole Street > > > Honolulu, HI 96822 > > > > > > > > > > From smago@uga.edu Tue Feb 18 03:16:50 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:16:50 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Professors, We Need You! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15ebeb9fa8ce4b969aa9c4561042cf89@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> The most striking thing about the ranking at http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/rick_hess_straight_up/2014/01/the_2014_rhsu_edu-scholar_public_influence_rankings.html is the virtual absence of any mention of academics in the US Congressional Record. -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:33 PM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Professors, We Need You! Thanks to you both. Locally the discussion is around "public scholarship." Lots to rhetoric aimed at audiences on the inside, little action vis a vis the outside. mike On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Cliff O'Donnell wrote: > Thank you, Peter, for bringing Kristof's piece to our attention. In > psychology an important part of the problem is the distinction between > basic and applied science. Those who make this distinction and value > basic science believe that basic science leads to Truth and dismiss > applied science. Participation in public debates then is seen as a > distraction at best. Basic science in psychology typically means > studying people in laboratories designed to seek basic principles by > isolating participants from the context of their everyday lives. > > The bad news is that separating people from context can lead to > limited and, often, inaccurate knowledge. The good news is that there > are areas of psychology where many researchers reject the distinction > between basic and applied science. They study people in context and > often participate in public debates about their work and its > implications for public policy (see www.scra27.org and www.spssi.org). > One model for this work combines basic and applied science ''where no > action step is contemplated without questioning about its theoretical > significance and no speculation about underlying processes occurs without asking about its action implications'' > (Price & Behrens, 2003, p. 222). > > Reference > Price, R. H., & Behrens, T. (2003). Working Pasteur's quadrant: > Harnessing science and action for community change. American Journal > of Community Psychology, 31, 219-223. doi:10.1023/A:1023950402338. > > Cliff O'Donnell > > > On Feb 16, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > Professors, We Need You! >> >> FEB. 15, 2014 Nicholas Kristof > top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/nicholasdkristof/index. >> html >> > >> >> SOME of the smartest thinkers on problems at home and around the >> world are university professors, but most of them just don't matter >> in today's great debates. >> >> The most stinging dismissal of a point is to say: "That's academic." >> In other words, to be a scholar is, often, to be irrelevant. >> >> One reason is the anti-intellectualism in American life, the kind >> that led Rick Santorum to scold President >> Obama as "a snob" for >> wanting more kids to go to college, or that led congressional >> Republicans to denounce spending on social science >> research> studies-under-strain-around-the-globe.html>. Yet it's not just that >> America has marginalized some of its sharpest minds. They have also >> marginalized themselves. >> >> "All the disciplines have become more and more specialized and more >> and more quantitative, making them less and less accessible to the >> general public," notes Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former dean of the >> Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton and now the president of the New America Foundation. >> >> There are plenty of exceptions, of course, including in economics, >> history and some sciences, in professional schools like law and >> business, and, above all, in schools of public policy; for that >> matter, we have a law professor in the White House. But, over all, >> there are, I think, fewer public intellectuals on American university >> campuses today than a generation ago. >> >> A basic challenge is that Ph.D. programs have fostered a culture that >> glorifies arcane unintelligibility while disdaining impact and audience. >> This culture of exclusivity is then transmitted to the next >> generation through the publish-or-perish tenure process. Rebels are >> too often crushed or driven away. >> >> "Many academics frown on public pontificating as a frivolous >> distraction from real research," said Will McCants, a Middle East >> specialist at the Brookings Institution. "This attitude affects >> tenure decisions. If the sine qua non for academic success is >> peer-reviewed publications, then academics who 'waste their time' writing for the masses will be penalized." >> >> The latest attempt by academia to wall itself off from the world came >> when the executive council of the prestigious International Studies >> Association proposed that its publication editors be barred from >> having personal blogs> 01/29/international-studies-association-proposes-bar-editors-blogging>. >> The association might as well scream: We want our scholars to be less >> influential! >> >> A related problem is that academics seeking tenure must encode their >> insights into turgid prose. As a double protection against public >> consumption, this gobbledygook is then sometimes hidden in obscure >> journals >> - or published by university presses whose reputations for soporifics >> keep readers at a distance. >> >> Jill Lepore, a Harvard historian >> who writes for The New Yorker and is an exception to everything said >> here, noted the >> result> Letters/141291/>: "a great, heaping mountain of exquisite knowledge >> surrounded by a vast moat of dreadful prose." >> >> As experiments, scholars have periodically submitted meaningless >> gibberish to scholarly journals - only to have the nonsense >> respectfully published. >> >> My onetime love, political science, is a particular offender and >> seems to be trying, in terms of practical impact, to commit suicide. >> >> "Political science Ph.D.'s often aren't prepared to do real-world >> analysis," says Ian Bremmer> net/about-eurasia-group/who-is/ian-bremmer>, a Stanford political >> science Ph.D. who runs the Eurasia Group, a consulting firm. In the >> late 1930s and early 1940s, one-fifth of articles in The American >> Political Science >> Review> evolutionEssay.pdf> focused on policy prescriptions; at last count, >> the share was down to 0.3 percent. >> >> Universities have retreated from area studies, so we have specialists >> in international theory who know little that is practical about the world. >> After the Arab Spring, a study by the Stimson Center< >> http://www.stimson.org/images/uploads/research-pdfs/ >> Full_Pub_-_Seismic_Shift.pdf> looked back at whether various sectors >> had foreseen the possibility of upheavals. It found that scholars >> were among the most oblivious - partly because they relied upon >> quantitative models or theoretical constructs that had been useless in predicting unrest. >> >> Many academic disciplines also reduce their influence by neglecting >> political diversity. Sociology, for example, should be central to so >> many national issues, but it is so dominated by the left that it is >> instinctively dismissed by the right. >> >> In contrast, economics is a rare academic field with a significant >> Republican presence, and that helps tether economic debates to >> real-world debates. That may be one reason, along with empiricism and >> rigor, why economists (including my colleague in columny, Paul >> Krugman) shape debates on issues from health care to education. >> >> Professors today have a growing number of tools available to educate >> the public, from online courses to blogs to social media. Yet >> academics have been slow to cast pearls through Twitter and Facebook. >> Likewise, it was TED Talks by nonscholars that made lectures fun to >> watch (but I owe a shout-out to the Teaching Company's lectures, >> which have enlivened our family's car rides). >> >> I write this in sorrow, for I considered an academic career and >> deeply admire the wisdom found on university campuses. So, >> professors, don't cloister yourselves like medieval monks - we need you! >> >> I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, On the Ground< >> http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground>. Please also join me on Facebook< >> http://www.facebook.com/kristof> and Google+> com/102839963139173448834/posts?hl=en>, watch my YouTube videos< >> http://www.youtube.com/nicholaskristof> and follow me on Twitter< >> http://twitter.com/nickkristof>. >> >> A version of this op-ed appears in print on February 16, 2014, on >> page >> SR11 of the New York edition with the headline: Smart Minds, Slim Impact. >> Order >> Reprints> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2014%2F02%2F16%2Fopinion% >> 2Fsunday%2Fkristof-professors-we-need-you.html& >> publisherName=The+New+York+Times&publication=nytimes.com& >> token=&orderBeanReset=true&postType=&wordCount=795&title= >> Professors%2C+We+Need+You%21&publicationDate=Feb.+15%2C+ >> 2014&author=By%20Nicholas%20Kristof>|Today's Paper< >> http://www.nytimes.com/pages/todayspaper/index.html>|Subscribe< >> http://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp5558.html?> >> >> > Clifford R. O'Donnell, Ph.D. > Professor Emeritus > Past-President, Society for Community Research and Action (APA > Division 27) > > University of Hawai'i > Department of Psychology > 2530 Dole Street > Honolulu, HI 96822 > > > From lchcmike@gmail.com Tue Feb 18 16:04:13 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:04:13 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Appreciating Leigh Star -- Call for Papers for MCA Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, Please consider writing for this proposed issue devoted to the work of Leigh Star. Pass along this call to whatever communities or people you know who might be able to contribute. Let us hear from you. mike on behalf of the editorial board of mca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: MCA Call for Papers.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 121670 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://mailman.ucsd.edu/mailman/private/xmca-l/attachments/20140218/05c12c4f/attachment.pdf From lemke.jay@gmail.com Wed Feb 19 19:35:19 2014 From: lemke.jay@gmail.com (Jay Lemke) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:35:19 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Video Publishing?? Message-ID: Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing where video clips can be included along with text and images. Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic publishers for book-length works that do so? The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project with kids and undergrads playing computer games). All suggestions welcome! JAY. PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) Jay Lemke LCHC/Department of Communication University of California - San Diego www.jaylemke.com From ablunden@mira.net Wed Feb 19 19:41:38 2014 From: ablunden@mira.net (Andy Blunden) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:41:38 +1100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53057972.9000407@mira.net> Jay, What I would do it to upload the videos to a public video streaming site like vimeo.com and then include the URL in the text of the article. In actual fact, wherever you place the video, it will be the same. But to stream video places certain requirements on the server, and there would otherwise be no reason for an on-line journal to be equipped for video streaming. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Andy Blunden* http://home.mira.net/~andy/ Jay Lemke wrote: > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > publishers for book-length works that do so? > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and > emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project with > kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > All suggestions welcome! > > JAY. > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > Jay Lemke > LCHC/Department of Communication > University of California - San Diego > www.jaylemke.com > > > From larabeaty@gmail.com Wed Feb 19 19:57:42 2014 From: larabeaty@gmail.com (Lara Beaty) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:57:42 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with a YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube makes it very easy. Best, Lara On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > publishers for book-length works that do so? > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and > emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project with > kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > All suggestions welcome! > > JAY. > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > Jay Lemke > LCHC/Department of Communication > University of California - San Diego > www.jaylemke.com From lchcmike@gmail.com Wed Feb 19 20:03:00 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:03:00 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? mike On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty wrote: > I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with a > YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube makes > it very easy. > > Best, > Lara > > On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: > > > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > > where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > > publishers for book-length works that do so? > > > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and > > emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project > with > > kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > > > All suggestions welcome! > > > > JAY. > > > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > > publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > > > Jay Lemke > > LCHC/Department of Communication > > University of California - San Diego > > www.jaylemke.com > > From ablunden@mira.net Wed Feb 19 20:12:35 2014 From: ablunden@mira.net (Andy Blunden) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:12:35 +1100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <530580B3.40400@mira.net> To embed a video in an HTML document you just insert a bit of code which includes the URL like this:

Origins of CHAT - German Philosophy.

The youtube or vimeo page displaying the video gives you the bit of code to embed. But for a PDF version of a paper just http://vimeo.com/12396776 is OK. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Andy Blunden* http://home.mira.net/~andy/ mike cole wrote: > Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with > "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? > mike > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty wrote: > > >> I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with a >> YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube makes >> it very easy. >> >> Best, >> Lara >> >> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: >> >> >>> Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing >>> where video clips can be included along with text and images. >>> >>> Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic >>> publishers for book-length works that do so? >>> >>> The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and >>> emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project >>> >> with >> >>> kids and undergrads playing computer games). >>> >>> All suggestions welcome! >>> >>> JAY. >>> >>> PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video >>> publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) >>> >>> Jay Lemke >>> LCHC/Department of Communication >>> University of California - San Diego >>> www.jaylemke.com >>> >> > > > From lchcmike@gmail.com Wed Feb 19 20:18:31 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:18:31 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: <530580B3.40400@mira.net> References: <530580B3.40400@mira.net> Message-ID: Is Andy's solution what your journal is doing, Lara? mike On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Andy Blunden wrote: > To embed a video in an HTML document you just insert a bit of code which > includes the URL like this: > >

Origins > of CHAT - German Philosophy.

> > The youtube or vimeo page displaying the video gives you the bit of code > to embed. > > But for a PDF version of a paper just http://vimeo.com/12396776 is OK. > > Andy > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Andy Blunden* > http://home.mira.net/~andy/ > > > mike cole wrote: > >> Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with >> "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? >> mike >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty wrote: >> >> >> >>> I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with a >>> YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube >>> makes >>> it very easy. >>> >>> Best, >>> Lara >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing >>>> where video clips can be included along with text and images. >>>> >>>> Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic >>>> publishers for book-length works that do so? >>>> >>>> The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, >>>> and >>>> emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project >>>> >>>> >>> with >>> >>> >>>> kids and undergrads playing computer games). >>>> >>>> All suggestions welcome! >>>> >>>> JAY. >>>> >>>> PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video >>>> publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) >>>> >>>> Jay Lemke >>>> LCHC/Department of Communication >>>> University of California - San Diego >>>> www.jaylemke.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > From larabeaty@gmail.com Wed Feb 19 20:46:54 2014 From: larabeaty@gmail.com (Lara Beaty) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:46:54 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: <530580B3.40400@mira.net> Message-ID: <803C1AE3-3CD0-4CC3-9ED8-5565F6D95254@gmail.com> After you upload a video to YouTube, it gives you the code to embed the video. You simply copy and past into the html document. Best, Lara On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:18 PM, mike cole wrote: > Is Andy's solution what your journal is doing, Lara? > mike > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Andy Blunden wrote: > >> To embed a video in an HTML document you just insert a bit of code which >> includes the URL like this: >> >>

Origins >> of CHAT - German Philosophy.

>> >> The youtube or vimeo page displaying the video gives you the bit of code >> to embed. >> >> But for a PDF version of a paper just http://vimeo.com/12396776 is OK. >> >> Andy >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *Andy Blunden* >> http://home.mira.net/~andy/ >> >> >> mike cole wrote: >> >>> Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with >>> "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? >>> mike >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with a >>>> YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube >>>> makes >>>> it very easy. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Lara >>>> >>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing >>>>> where video clips can be included along with text and images. >>>>> >>>>> Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic >>>>> publishers for book-length works that do so? >>>>> >>>>> The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, >>>>> and >>>>> emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project >>>>> >>>>> >>>> with >>>> >>>> >>>>> kids and undergrads playing computer games). >>>>> >>>>> All suggestions welcome! >>>>> >>>>> JAY. >>>>> >>>>> PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video >>>>> publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) >>>>> >>>>> Jay Lemke >>>>> LCHC/Department of Communication >>>>> University of California - San Diego >>>>> www.jaylemke.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> From alefstein@gmail.com Wed Feb 19 21:54:02 2014 From: alefstein@gmail.com (Adam Lefstein) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:54:02 +0200 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: <530580B3.40400@mira.net> Message-ID: Dear Mike and everyone, Julia Snell and I have done this with both a journal article (in *Reading Research Quarterly*) and book (Routledge). This is also a good opportunity to announce the publication of the book, which was released a few days ago in the U.S., and I think might interest people on the list (details below). In the *Reading Research Quarterly *case, the publisher put the clip (8 minutes of classroom interaction) on vimeo (http://*vimeo*.com/17810542). Though we have permissions from the teacher, parents and kids, we felt uncomfortable about making the video freely available, so the link is buried in a subscribers-only "Supporting Information" section on the publishers' web-site. I've spoken to a number of people who've read the article but unfortunately failed to notice or find the video; in retrospect we should have made the announcement of the video more prominent, and sought to embed it on the publishers' web-site (or opened our own site -- more on that below). In any event, the video can be found by searching on vimeo (if you know what to look for). The article, by the way, is "Promises and Problems of Teaching With Popular Culture: A Linguistic Ethnographic Analysis of Discourse Genre Mixing in a Literacy Lesson", and can be found here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1598/RRQ.46.1.3/abstract. The book is called *Better than Best Practice: Developing Teaching and Learning through Dialogue. *It includes detailed analysis of eight episodes of primary school literacy lessons (from a London primary school), along with tools for teachers and teacher educators to engage in critical reflection on the teaching and learning documented, and on the possibilities and challenges of dialogic pedagogy. In keeping with the book's dialogic spirit, there are also 17 critical commentaries written by scholars, practitioners and administrators, including people active on XMCA, such as Greg Thompson, Jennifer Vadeboncoeur and Jayne White. We wanted to open up a web-site for the book, to perform two functions: access to the video and transcripts, and a forum for continuing the conversation with readers. Again, we were uncomfortable about making the video freely available, so we asked the publisher to put it in a password-protected corner of the publisher-hosted companion web-site, which can be found here: http://www.routledge.com/cw/lefstein-9780415618441/. Much to our dismay, the publishers have hosted the video on youtube (privately -- you can only access the video with the link), and embedded it on the password-protected section of the site. So far this solution seems to work OK. However, the publisher was unable to accommodate our ideas about an interactive blog with readers, so we ended up opening up our own site: http://dialogicpedagogy.com/. If you're interested in the book you can find details there about the episodes, key ideas, etc. Setting up our own web-site was surprisingly easy, and we think a much better solution than using the publishers' site, since we have direct control over content, and can change things immediately. Finally, we decided to partially mask participants' identities through a "cartoonizing" filter. You can see examples of the effect here ( http://dialogicpedagogy.com/the-episodes/), and a discussion of how and why we've done this here ( http://dialogicpedagogy.com/ethics-consent-masking-participant-identities/). I hope you find this helpful. Best wishes, adam On 20 February 2014 06:18, mike cole wrote: > Is Andy's solution what your journal is doing, Lara? > mike > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Andy Blunden wrote: > > > To embed a video in an HTML document you just insert a bit of code which > > includes the URL like this: > > > >

Origins > > of CHAT - German Philosophy.

> > > > The youtube or vimeo page displaying the video gives you the bit of code > > to embed. > > > > But for a PDF version of a paper just http://vimeo.com/12396776 is OK. > > > > Andy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *Andy Blunden* > > http://home.mira.net/~andy/ > > > > > > mike cole wrote: > > > >> Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with > >> "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? > >> mike > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with a > >>> YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube > >>> makes > >>> it very easy. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> Lara > >>> > >>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > >>>> where video clips can be included along with text and images. > >>>> > >>>> Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > >>>> publishers for book-length works that do so? > >>>> > >>>> The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, > >>>> and > >>>> emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project > >>>> > >>>> > >>> with > >>> > >>> > >>>> kids and undergrads playing computer games). > >>>> > >>>> All suggestions welcome! > >>>> > >>>> JAY. > >>>> > >>>> PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > >>>> publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > >>>> > >>>> Jay Lemke > >>>> LCHC/Department of Communication > >>>> University of California - San Diego > >>>> www.jaylemke.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- Adam Lefstein Department of Education Ben-Gurion University of the Negev lefstein@bgu.ac.il Now published: *Better than Best Practice: Developing Teaching and Learning through Dialogue *(with Julia Snell, from Routledge). For details, see dialogicpedagogy.com . From laure.kloetzer@gmail.com Wed Feb 19 23:56:52 2014 From: laure.kloetzer@gmail.com (Laure Kloetzer) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:56:52 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: <530580B3.40400@mira.net> Message-ID: Hi Adam, Thanks for the news on the book, it feels really exciting ! I am really looking forward to reading it. The dialogical format is something we do too in our reports (Activity Clinic) and I am very curious to see how it works. Regarding videos, what we did for our (French) book was to open our own website with the same domain name as the book (you have to buy a domain name but that's less than 20 dollars per year) to host videos, as well as comments and extensions on the book (blog-like). In this way, we keep control of the videos, which was an important point for us. The URL is in the book, and so you can update the website when you want and readers find this additional content easily. Best, LK 2014-02-20 6:54 GMT+01:00 Adam Lefstein : > Dear Mike and everyone, > Julia Snell and I have done this with both a journal article (in *Reading > Research Quarterly*) and book (Routledge). This is also a good opportunity > to announce the publication of the book, which was released a few days ago > in the U.S., and I think might interest people on the list (details > below). > In the *Reading Research Quarterly *case, the publisher put the clip (8 > minutes of classroom interaction) on vimeo (http://*vimeo*.com/17810542). > Though we have permissions from the teacher, parents and kids, we felt > uncomfortable about making the video freely available, so the link is > buried in a subscribers-only "Supporting Information" section on the > publishers' web-site. I've spoken to a number of people who've read the > article but unfortunately failed to notice or find the video; in retrospect > we should have made the announcement of the video more prominent, and > sought to embed it on the publishers' web-site (or opened our own site -- > more on that below). In any event, the video can be found by searching on > vimeo (if you know what to look for). The article, by the way, is > "Promises and Problems of Teaching With Popular Culture: A Linguistic > Ethnographic Analysis of Discourse Genre Mixing in a Literacy Lesson", and > can be found here: > http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1598/RRQ.46.1.3/abstract. > The book is called *Better than Best Practice: Developing Teaching and > Learning through Dialogue. *It includes detailed analysis of eight > episodes of primary school literacy lessons (from a London primary school), > along with tools for teachers and teacher educators to engage in critical > reflection on the teaching and learning documented, and on the > possibilities and challenges of dialogic pedagogy. In keeping with the > book's dialogic spirit, there are also 17 critical commentaries written by > scholars, practitioners and administrators, including people active on > XMCA, such as Greg Thompson, Jennifer Vadeboncoeur and Jayne White. > We wanted to open up a web-site for the book, to perform two functions: > access to the video and transcripts, and a forum for continuing the > conversation with readers. Again, we were uncomfortable about making the > video freely available, so we asked the publisher to put it in a > password-protected corner of the publisher-hosted companion web-site, which > can be found here: http://www.routledge.com/cw/lefstein-9780415618441/. > Much to our dismay, the publishers have hosted the video on youtube > (privately -- you can only access the video with the link), and embedded it > on the password-protected section of the site. So far this solution seems > to work OK. > However, the publisher was unable to accommodate our ideas about an > interactive blog with readers, so we ended up opening up our own site: > http://dialogicpedagogy.com/. If you're interested in the book you can > find details there about the episodes, key ideas, etc. Setting up our own > web-site was surprisingly easy, and we think a much better solution than > using the publishers' site, since we have direct control over content, and > can change things immediately. > Finally, we decided to partially mask participants' identities through a > "cartoonizing" filter. You can see examples of the effect here ( > http://dialogicpedagogy.com/the-episodes/), and a discussion of how and > why > we've done this here ( > http://dialogicpedagogy.com/ethics-consent-masking-participant-identities/ > ). > > I hope you find this helpful. > Best wishes, > adam > > > > > > On 20 February 2014 06:18, mike cole wrote: > > > Is Andy's solution what your journal is doing, Lara? > > mike > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Andy Blunden wrote: > > > > > To embed a video in an HTML document you just insert a bit of code > which > > > includes the URL like this: > > > > > >

Origins > > > of CHAT - German Philosophy.

> > > > > > The youtube or vimeo page displaying the video gives you the bit of > code > > > to embed. > > > > > > But for a PDF version of a paper just http://vimeo.com/12396776 is OK. > > > > > > Andy > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > *Andy Blunden* > > > http://home.mira.net/~andy/ > > > > > > > > > mike cole wrote: > > > > > >> Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with > > >> "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? > > >> mike > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with > a > > >>> YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube > > >>> makes > > >>> it very easy. > > >>> > > >>> Best, > > >>> Lara > > >>> > > >>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online > publishing > > >>>> where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > >>>> > > >>>> Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) > academic > > >>>> publishers for book-length works that do so? > > >>>> > > >>>> The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, > play, > > >>>> and > > >>>> emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style > project > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> with > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > >>>> > > >>>> All suggestions welcome! > > >>>> > > >>>> JAY. > > >>>> > > >>>> PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > > >>>> publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > >>>> > > >>>> Jay Lemke > > >>>> LCHC/Department of Communication > > >>>> University of California - San Diego > > >>>> www.jaylemke.com > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Adam Lefstein > Department of Education > Ben-Gurion University of the Negev > lefstein@bgu.ac.il > > > Now published: *Better than Best Practice: Developing Teaching and Learning > through Dialogue *(with Julia Snell, from Routledge). For details, see > dialogicpedagogy.com . > From b.bligh@lancaster.ac.uk Thu Feb 20 03:00:30 2014 From: b.bligh@lancaster.ac.uk (Bligh, Brett) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:00:30 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: <530580B3.40400@mira.net> Message-ID: In terms of journal publishing, well I know that most Elsevier-published journals will take supplementary video materials and place them into the online version of the article (in their ScienceDirect platform). See http://cdn.elsevier.com/promis_misc/supplementary_multimedia_data_oct2009.pdf for a bit more info. The only reason I know is that I had an article in their journal "Computers and Education" a year or so ago and they requested some video materials from me (which unfortunately I couldn't supply because the participant release form I had used had been worded so as to restrict the use of the video footage I recorded). I also had an article in an independent, entirely online journal a while back that not only allows video materials but actually *requires* authors to provide a recorded video introduction for every paper. That the International Journal of Media, Technology and Lifelong Learning, at http://seminar.net/ Looking back at my own hastily recorded introduction about 4 years later is actually fairly cringe-inducing for me, though, I'm afraid. Neither Elsevier or Seminar seem to use Youtube or Vimeo; both seem to host the files themselves and use bespoke players. When embedding videos in websites, I have had far better results in the past with Vimeo than Youtube. If you're feeling ambitious you can even create a player (called a Hubnut Widget) that allows viewers to choose between multiple videos in a single box, which works quite smoothly. http://vimeo.com/tools/widget Hope that helps a bit, Brett -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Laure Kloetzer Sent: 20 February 2014 07:57 To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? Hi Adam, Thanks for the news on the book, it feels really exciting ! I am really looking forward to reading it. The dialogical format is something we do too in our reports (Activity Clinic) and I am very curious to see how it works. Regarding videos, what we did for our (French) book was to open our own website with the same domain name as the book (you have to buy a domain name but that's less than 20 dollars per year) to host videos, as well as comments and extensions on the book (blog-like). In this way, we keep control of the videos, which was an important point for us. The URL is in the book, and so you can update the website when you want and readers find this additional content easily. Best, LK 2014-02-20 6:54 GMT+01:00 Adam Lefstein : > Dear Mike and everyone, > Julia Snell and I have done this with both a journal article (in > *Reading Research Quarterly*) and book (Routledge). This is also a > good opportunity to announce the publication of the book, which was > released a few days ago in the U.S., and I think might interest people > on the list (details below). > In the *Reading Research Quarterly *case, the publisher put the clip > (8 minutes of classroom interaction) on vimeo (http://*vimeo*.com/17810542). > Though we have permissions from the teacher, parents and kids, we felt > uncomfortable about making the video freely available, so the link is > buried in a subscribers-only "Supporting Information" section on the > publishers' web-site. I've spoken to a number of people who've read > the article but unfortunately failed to notice or find the video; in > retrospect we should have made the announcement of the video more > prominent, and sought to embed it on the publishers' web-site (or > opened our own site -- more on that below). In any event, the video > can be found by searching on vimeo (if you know what to look for). > The article, by the way, is "Promises and Problems of Teaching With > Popular Culture: A Linguistic Ethnographic Analysis of Discourse Genre > Mixing in a Literacy Lesson", and can be found here: > http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1598/RRQ.46.1.3/abstract. > The book is called *Better than Best Practice: Developing Teaching and > Learning through Dialogue. *It includes detailed analysis of eight > episodes of primary school literacy lessons (from a London primary > school), along with tools for teachers and teacher educators to engage > in critical reflection on the teaching and learning documented, and on > the possibilities and challenges of dialogic pedagogy. In keeping > with the book's dialogic spirit, there are also 17 critical > commentaries written by scholars, practitioners and administrators, > including people active on XMCA, such as Greg Thompson, Jennifer Vadeboncoeur and Jayne White. > We wanted to open up a web-site for the book, to perform two functions: > access to the video and transcripts, and a forum for continuing the > conversation with readers. Again, we were uncomfortable about making > the video freely available, so we asked the publisher to put it in a > password-protected corner of the publisher-hosted companion web-site, > which can be found here: http://www.routledge.com/cw/lefstein-9780415618441/. > Much to our dismay, the publishers have hosted the video on youtube > (privately -- you can only access the video with the link), and > embedded it on the password-protected section of the site. So far > this solution seems to work OK. > However, the publisher was unable to accommodate our ideas about an > interactive blog with readers, so we ended up opening up our own site: > http://dialogicpedagogy.com/. If you're interested in the book you > can find details there about the episodes, key ideas, etc. Setting up > our own web-site was surprisingly easy, and we think a much better > solution than using the publishers' site, since we have direct control > over content, and can change things immediately. > Finally, we decided to partially mask participants' identities through > a "cartoonizing" filter. You can see examples of the effect here ( > http://dialogicpedagogy.com/the-episodes/), and a discussion of how > and why we've done this here ( > http://dialogicpedagogy.com/ethics-consent-masking-participant-identit > ies/ > ). > > I hope you find this helpful. > Best wishes, > adam > > > > > > On 20 February 2014 06:18, mike cole wrote: > > > Is Andy's solution what your journal is doing, Lara? > > mike > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Andy Blunden wrote: > > > > > To embed a video in an HTML document you just insert a bit of code > which > > > includes the URL like this: > > > > > >

Origins > > > of CHAT - German Philosophy.

> > > > > > The youtube or vimeo page displaying the video gives you the bit > > > of > code > > > to embed. > > > > > > But for a PDF version of a paper just http://vimeo.com/12396776 is OK. > > > > > > Andy > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > *Andy Blunden* > > > http://home.mira.net/~andy/ > > > > > > > > > mike cole wrote: > > > > > >> Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with > > >> "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? > > >> mike > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article > > >>> with > a > > >>> YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. > > >>> YouTube makes it very easy. > > >>> > > >>> Best, > > >>> Lara > > >>> > > >>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online > publishing > > >>>> where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > >>>> > > >>>> Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) > academic > > >>>> publishers for book-length works that do so? > > >>>> > > >>>> The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, > play, > > >>>> and > > >>>> emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style > project > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> with > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > >>>> > > >>>> All suggestions welcome! > > >>>> > > >>>> JAY. > > >>>> > > >>>> PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about > > >>>> video publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > >>>> > > >>>> Jay Lemke > > >>>> LCHC/Department of Communication University of California - San > > >>>> Diego www.jaylemke.com > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Adam Lefstein > Department of Education > Ben-Gurion University of the Negev > lefstein@bgu.ac.il > > > Now published: *Better than Best Practice: Developing Teaching and > Learning through Dialogue *(with Julia Snell, from Routledge). For > details, see dialogicpedagogy.com . > From smago@uga.edu Thu Feb 20 03:08:07 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:08:07 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65369224617f477ea6a905b395548433@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> The grad-student-edited journal Journal of Language and Literacy Education has this capability and would love to see something like this submitted. p Peter Smagorinsky Distinguished Research Professor of English Education Department of Language and Literacy Education The University of Georgia 315 Aderhold Hall Athens, GA 30602 Advisor, Journal of Language and Literacy Education Follow JoLLE on twitter @Jolle_uga [cid:image001.jpg@01CF2E02.251A8120] -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Jay Lemke Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:35 PM To: XMCA Forum Subject: [Xmca-l] Video Publishing?? Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing where video clips can be included along with text and images. Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic publishers for book-length works that do so? The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project with kids and undergrads playing computer games). All suggestions welcome! JAY. PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) Jay Lemke LCHC/Department of Communication University of California - San Diego www.jaylemke.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2929 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : https://mailman.ucsd.edu/mailman/private/xmca-l/attachments/20140220/dd842d15/attachment.jpg From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Thu Feb 20 03:25:58 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 06:25:58 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] The rise of the 'cholitas' Message-ID: <0511qduvb2tfhpogd40j84y2.1392895558878@email.android.com> Interesting article in the BBC this morning. ?Is this process dialectical or counter-hegemonic? The rise of the 'cholitas' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26172313 Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com? www.paulcmocombe.info? From lihua_xu99@yahoo.com Thu Feb 20 04:13:15 2014 From: lihua_xu99@yahoo.com (lihua) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:13:15 +1100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <65369224617f477ea6a905b395548433@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: <65369224617f477ea6a905b395548433@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Hi, Could someone unsubscribe me from the list? Thank you! Lihua On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > The grad-student-edited journal Journal of Language and Literacy Education has this capability and would love to see something like this submitted. p > > Peter Smagorinsky > Distinguished Research Professor of English Education > Department of Language and Literacy Education > The University of Georgia > 315 Aderhold Hall > Athens, GA 30602 > > Advisor, Journal of Language and Literacy Education > Follow JoLLE on twitter @Jolle_uga > [cid:image001.jpg@01CF2E02.251A8120] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Jay Lemke > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:35 PM > To: XMCA Forum > Subject: [Xmca-l] Video Publishing?? > > > > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic publishers for book-length works that do so? > > > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project with kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > > > All suggestions welcome! > > > > JAY. > > > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > > > Jay Lemke > > LCHC/Department of Communication > > University of California - San Diego > > www.jaylemke.com From sdizayi@gmail.com Thu Feb 20 04:23:11 2014 From: sdizayi@gmail.com (Saman Dizayi) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:23:11 +0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: References: <65369224617f477ea6a905b395548433@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: hii.. the same here On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:13 PM, lihua wrote: > Hi, > Could someone unsubscribe me from the list? Thank you! > Lihua > On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > > > The grad-student-edited journal Journal of Language and Literacy > Education has this capability and would love > to see something like this submitted. p > > > > Peter Smagorinsky > > Distinguished Research Professor< > http://www.ovpr.uga.edu/docs/policies/iga/DRP-Guidelines.pdf> of< > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/of> English Education< > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/english/secondary/index.html> > > Department of Language and Literacy Education< > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/english/secondary/index.html> > > The University of Georgia > > 315 Aderhold Hall > > Athens,< > http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/607/02/> GA< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state)> 30602< > http://www.city-data.com/zips/30602.html> > > > > Advisor, Journal of Language and Literacy Education< > http://jolle.coe.uga.edu/> > > Follow JoLLE on twitter @Jolle_uga > > [cid:image001.jpg@01CF2E02.251A8120] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto: > xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Jay Lemke > > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:35 PM > > To: XMCA Forum > > Subject: [Xmca-l] Video Publishing?? > > > > > > > > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > > > > > > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > publishers for book-length works that do so? > > > > > > > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, > and emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project > with kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > > > > > > > All suggestions welcome! > > > > > > > > JAY. > > > > > > > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > > > > > > > Jay Lemke > > > > LCHC/Department of Communication > > > > University of California - San Diego > > > > www.jaylemke.com > > > -- saman From lchcmike@gmail.com Thu Feb 20 05:01:32 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:01:32 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: FW: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: <65369224617f477ea6a905b395548433@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: <65369224617f477ea6a905b395548433@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Seems like the problem has been solved! mike On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > The grad-student-edited journal Journal of Language and Literacy Education< > http://jolle.coe.uga.edu/> has this capability and would love to see > something like this submitted. p > > Peter Smagorinsky > Distinguished Research Professor< > http://www.ovpr.uga.edu/docs/policies/iga/DRP-Guidelines.pdf> of< > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/of> English Education< > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/english/secondary/index.html> > Department of Language and Literacy Education< > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/english/secondary/index.html> > The University of Georgia > 315 Aderhold Hall > Athens,< > http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/607/02/> GA< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state)> 30602< > http://www.city-data.com/zips/30602.html> > > Advisor, Journal of Language and Literacy Education< > http://jolle.coe.uga.edu/> > Follow JoLLE on twitter @Jolle_uga > [cid:image001.jpg@01CF2E02.251A8120] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto: > xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Jay Lemke > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:35 PM > To: XMCA Forum > Subject: [Xmca-l] Video Publishing?? > > > > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > publishers for book-length works that do so? > > > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and > emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project with > kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > > > All suggestions welcome! > > > > JAY. > > > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > > > Jay Lemke > > LCHC/Department of Communication > > University of California - San Diego > > www.jaylemke.com > From lchcmike@gmail.com Thu Feb 20 05:01:32 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:01:32 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: FW: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: <65369224617f477ea6a905b395548433@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> References: <65369224617f477ea6a905b395548433@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Seems like the problem has been solved! mike On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > The grad-student-edited journal Journal of Language and Literacy Education< > http://jolle.coe.uga.edu/> has this capability and would love to see > something like this submitted. p > > Peter Smagorinsky > Distinguished Research Professor< > http://www.ovpr.uga.edu/docs/policies/iga/DRP-Guidelines.pdf> of< > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/of> English Education< > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/english/secondary/index.html> > Department of Language and Literacy Education< > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/english/secondary/index.html> > The University of Georgia > 315 Aderhold Hall > Athens,< > http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/607/02/> GA< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state)> 30602< > http://www.city-data.com/zips/30602.html> > > Advisor, Journal of Language and Literacy Education< > http://jolle.coe.uga.edu/> > Follow JoLLE on twitter @Jolle_uga > [cid:image001.jpg@01CF2E02.251A8120] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto: > xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Jay Lemke > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:35 PM > To: XMCA Forum > Subject: [Xmca-l] Video Publishing?? > > > > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > publishers for book-length works that do so? > > > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and > emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project with > kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > > > All suggestions welcome! > > > > JAY. > > > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > > > Jay Lemke > > LCHC/Department of Communication > > University of California - San Diego > > www.jaylemke.com > From smago@uga.edu Fri Feb 21 03:18:00 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:18:00 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: 2 New Education Titles from IAP - Information Age Publishing In-Reply-To: <9e1524012982ed21f7fcdc93e0835219@infoagepub.net> References: <9e1524012982ed21f7fcdc93e0835219@infoagepub.net> Message-ID: Book of possible interest: From: Information Age Publishing [mailto:marketing@infoagepub.com] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:40 PM To: Peter Smagorinsky Subject: 2 New Education Titles from IAP - Information Age Publishing [News update from Information Age Publishing] Varied Perspectives on Play and Learning Theory and Research on Early Years Education [http://www.infoagepub.com/assets/images/covers/p520a9b8202903.gif] Edited by: Ole Fredrik Lillemyr, Queen Maud University College Sue Dockett, Charles Sturt University Bob Perry, Charles Sturt University * Buy Online at http://www.infoagepub.com/products/Varied-Perspectives-on-Play-and-Learning * Paperback 978-1-62396-415-3 Web Price: $39.09 * Hardcover 978-1-62396-416-0 Web Price: $73.09 * eBook 978-1-62396-417-7 * Call our customer service department at 704-752-9125 ext 2 and receive a special price of $34.50 per paperback plus shipping EDU000000 - EDUCATION: General SOC000000 - SOCIAL SCIENCE: General SOC024000 - SOCIAL SCIENCE: Research This book brings together an international group of researchers reporting on their work about play and early childhood education across 13 countries - Norway, Sweden, Denmark, England, Germany, Hong Kong, United States of America, India, The Maldives, Sri Lanka, Singapore, China and Australia. It contributes to growing international conversations about play and the role of play in early childhood education. Each of the chapters in this anthology reflects different directions in research as well as a range of approaches to reconceptualising play. Each researcher questions assumptions underpinning young children's play and early childhood education and explores the implications of these questions for further research, practice and policy. Chapters report a wide range of innovative and transformative research, focusing on areas such as the play of infants and toddlers, the role of values in play, the complexity of connections between play and learning, motivation, the role and understandings of early childhood educators in promoting children's play, risky play and the impact of Westernised approaches to play in different contexts. This book argues for the importance of children's play at a time when there is a great deal of pressure to increase the academic focus of early education and to eliminate play that could be deemed risky. Several authors note moves towards pedagogies of play and explore the potential links between play and learning in early education settings. The research reported in this book is a timely reminder of the value of play, for and of itself, as well as the learning potential of play. It provides a pathway into the debates about the role and value of play in early years education for students, researchers and policy-makers. ********************************************************************************************************************************************************** English Learner Instruction through Collaboration and Inquiry in Teacher Education [http://www.infoagepub.com/assets/images/covers/p522fca768f4a0.gif] Edited by: James F. 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While the chapters feature different venues for teacher learning, they all depict the process of teachers and teacher educators striving to integrate English learner instruction into mainstream teacher education. This book will be a resource for faculty in teacher education programs and for administrative personnel in school districts to illustrate the process of building authentic collaborations that can improve teacher learning and understanding about English learner instruction. Information Age Publishing | P.O. Box 79049 | Charlotte, NC 28271-7047 T: 704.752.9125 | F: 704.752.9113 | E: info@infoagepub.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail was sent to smago@uga.edu because you are subscribed to at least one of our mailing lists. If at any time you would like to remove yourself from our mailing list, please feel free to do so by visiting: http://infoagepub.net/lm/public/unsubscribe.php?g=139&addr=smago@uga.edu From smago@uga.edu Fri Feb 21 03:19:27 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:19:27 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] FW: Update on Ukraine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sent by one of our graduate students from the Ukraine: , some updated information about the happenings in Ukraine in English are here, Euromaidan in English: https://www.facebook.com/EnglishMaidan Here is a link to a live broadcasting (Ukrainian one): http://espreso.tv/stream There is a The Euromaidan Journalist Collective, also a good source, to see the events from the Ukrainian side, they are written in Eglish: https://www.facebook.com/Euromaidan.Collective This is an interesting general point of view of Timothy Snyder, a Professor of History at Yale University: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/mar/20/fascism-russia-and-ukraine/ Also, the people on Maydan, as often showed my mass media, these are not people that are "extremists," these are people who cannot go home, because they got arrested, their families are got beaten, and the houses are burned down...They are mostly professors, students, intelectuals, and people od small business. They have no way just to require the president's impeachment. From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Fri Feb 21 09:09:48 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: NCBS 2014 Conference Schedule available Message-ID: Fyi... Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com? www.paulcmocombe.info?
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Subject: NCBS 2014 Conference Schedule available
Dear Paul Mocombe (The African Americanization of the Black Diaspora in Globalization or the Contemporary Capitalist World-System) Hello, The NCBS 2014 Conference Schedule is available for review via the following link: http://convention2.allacademic.com/one/ncbs/ncbs14/ Once on the website, you will see a View the Online Program link.? Please click the link to review the schedule. ???????? Sincerely, NCBS ???????? From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Fri Feb 21 09:24:47 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:24:47 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: FW: Update on Ukraine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CC70791-A5A8-4512-8154-9678F3D2F88D@gmail.com> The news coming out from Venezuela are horrible as well. The city where I lived 10 years of my childhood, San Cristobal, as a member of a family that was looking for a democratic safe heaven from Pinochet, is now being assaulted by Venezuela's military. The colors are different. The jargon is the same: the State uses all its means to topple political disidence and makes of his people an "internal enemy". Military planes, tanks, hundreds of soldiers are now there threatening people. During the 70s Venezuela was the democratic home for many Latin American exilees. It breaks my heart how all that went away because of an incompetent and corrupt political leadership that opened the way to old-fashioned pseudo-socialist populism. If you have any doubts check what Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are saying. Enviado desde mi iPhone El 21-02-2014, a las 8:19, Peter Smagorinsky escribi?: > Sent by one of our graduate students from the Ukraine: > , some updated information about the happenings in Ukraine in English are here, Euromaidan in English: https://www.facebook.com/EnglishMaidan > > Here is a link to a live broadcasting (Ukrainian one): http://espreso.tv/stream > > > There is a The Euromaidan Journalist Collective, also a good source, to see the events from the Ukrainian side, they are written in Eglish: > https://www.facebook.com/Euromaidan.Collective > > This is an interesting general point of view of Timothy Snyder, a Professor of History at Yale University: > > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/mar/20/fascism-russia-and-ukraine/ > > > Also, the people on Maydan, as often showed my mass media, these are not people that are "extremists," these are people who cannot go home, because they got arrested, their families are got beaten, and the houses are burned down...They are mostly professors, students, intelectuals, and people od small business. They have no way just to require the president's impeachment. > From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Fri Feb 21 09:47:49 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:47:49 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube Message-ID: David, I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com? www.paulcmocombe.info? From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Fri Feb 21 10:05:32 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:05:32 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <018BA016-D775-4A32-B5CF-12213532FCD2@gmail.com> All I can say is that I am Chilean. My family experienced Pinochet's coup d'etat and knows first hand American Interventionism. We lived a self imposed exile because of that. Allende NEVER used the military to shoot at his people which is what Maduro is doing now. I know Venezuela's limitations. I lived there as well. My family still have friends in the SAME city that is NOW being assaulted with army planes and tanks. In short I don't like authoritharian governments whatever their colours and the ways they use to legitimize themselves. Nothing in the world would convince me that using the army to topple political dissent is ethical. And in the same way I despise Pinochet for what he made to my family and my friends I despise Maduro and other authoritharian Latin American regimes for what they do to those that think differently. That said, there are MANY differences between Chile 1973 and Venezuela 2014 and those that make an analogy between Allende and Maduro not only don' know both countries but also dishonor Allende's legacy as a leader that defended democratic means all the way through however many pushed him in a different direction (Castro included). Enviado desde mi iPhone El 21-02-2014, a las 14:47, "Dr. Paul C. Mocombe" escribi?: > David, > > I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > President > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > www.mocombeian.com > www.readingroomcurriculum.com > www.paulcmocombe.info From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Fri Feb 21 10:25:13 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 13:25:13 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube Message-ID: <5cur6u4t4uqpuibek79f50hq.1393007113176@email.android.com> David, I am an anarchist, ?I do not care for states...and a democratic state for me is an oxymoron. ?Even the US government would not put up with what the right is doing in venezula. ?Look what they did to occupy wall street. ? Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com? www.paulcmocombe.info?
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From: David Preiss
Date:02/21/2014 1:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube
All I can say is that I am Chilean. My family experienced Pinochet's coup d'etat and knows first hand American Interventionism. We lived a self imposed exile because of that. Allende NEVER used the military to shoot at his people which is what Maduro is doing now. I know Venezuela's limitations. I lived there as well. My family still have friends in the SAME city that is NOW being assaulted with army planes and tanks. In short I don't like authoritharian governments whatever their colours and the ways they use to legitimize themselves. Nothing in the world would convince me that using the army to topple political dissent is ethical. And in the same way I despise Pinochet for what he made to my family and my friends I despise Maduro and other authoritharian Latin American regimes for what they do to those that think differently. That said, there are MANY differences between Chile 1973 and Venezuela 2014 and those that make an analogy between Allende and Maduro not only don' know both countries but also dishonor Allende's legacy as a leader that defended democratic means all the way through however many pushed him in a different direction (Castro included). Enviado desde mi iPhone El 21-02-2014, a las 14:47, "Dr. Paul C. Mocombe" escribi?: > David, > > I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > President > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > www.mocombeian.com > www.readingroomcurriculum.com > www.paulcmocombe.info From blantonwe@comcast.net Fri Feb 21 15:20:54 2014 From: blantonwe@comcast.net (Bill Blanton) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2020751039.1053388.1393024854449.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Mike, I am in Scottsdale right now. When I get back to Miami I will send you cd that I will send you cd of kids playing games with undergrads. We broke marked events, wrote descriptions. and linked each video of each description. All of this was indexed on a model influenced Arne. All you would have to do is take our url scripts and put it up. This piece is still launched out there in the ether. I just can't locate it yet. I will be back March 2. BB ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike cole" To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:03:00 PM Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? mike On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty wrote: > I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with a > YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube makes > it very easy. > > Best, > Lara > > On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: > > > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > > where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > > publishers for book-length works that do so? > > > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, and > > emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project > with > > kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > > > All suggestions welcome! > > > > JAY. > > > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > > publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > > > Jay Lemke > > LCHC/Department of Communication > > University of California - San Diego > > www.jaylemke.com > > From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Fri Feb 21 17:30:15 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:30:15 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Public intellectuals Message-ID: <44012872-E211-4898-B59A-6F7040BBC066@gmail.com> Please see below in the link a clever response to Krystof's piece. It is still a very USA centered debate. It would be interesting to hear a bit how it resonates in other countries. As for Chile university profs are quite engaged in public debate, specially those in the social sciences. Many of them are more invested there than in the mainstream academic media, which is not necesarilly good as the connection between research and public discourse weakens. m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2014/02/why-is-academic-writing-so-academic.html Descarga la aplicaci?n oficial de Twitter aqu? Enviado desde mi iPhone From annasfar@math.msu.edu Sat Feb 22 00:44:10 2014 From: annasfar@math.msu.edu (Sfard, Anna) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:44:10 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Public intellectuals Message-ID: This discussion seems to me vitally important. The nice thing about us, the xmca-ers, is that we are able to muster this special, critical-ironic look at things. Not always, though, the criticism and irony go far enough. I think the discussion, so far, has not acknowledged the seriousness of the problem. Bad, very bad things are happening in academia these days, some of them signaled in the present conversation, and some of them still left unmentioned. In my opinion, we are witnessing academic climate change and are possibly heading toward the annihilation of the world of scholarship. These are strong words, I know, but I wonder what counter-arguments the deniers may offer. I also think that perhaps the only way to fight this imminent catastrophe (and our own present predicament as the dwellers of the ivory tower) is to refuse collaboration with the forces that cause the erosion. I do realize, of course, that such decision is easy to make when you have already had your time in the academia and are relatively untouchable. Still, if we refused collectively?. In this context I want to recommend two relevant publications: first, the book by the British sociologist Michael Billig with the title that says it all: Learn to write badly: How to succeed in the social sciences. (2013, Cambridge, Mass.: Cambridge University Press; note the pessimistic ending of the book); and second ? the text by Zaheer Baber, titled "Said, Mills and Jargon" - see http://www.epw.in/system/files/Said%20Mills%20and%20Jargon_0.pdf To these, I am adding yet another piece of writing, this time by myself (see the attachment). This is a fragment of a text, now in print, which I wrote for the celebratory 100th issue of a small but exceptional journal in mathematics education with the name somewhat unusual in its form, "for the learning of mathematics" (note the adverbial format and the lower case). Run by Canadians, the journal follows the unwritten rules established by its founder, the Englishman David Wheeler. These rules make it stand out within the general landscape of the academic publishing (or to protrude from the academic box, if you wish). In fact, it is the relative absence of rules and the editors' courage to make their own "crazy" decisions that makes it special. The attached fragment speaks about the context (landscape) rather than about the journal itself. Hope some of these will make for not-too-demanding weekend reading. And if you think all this is a provocation ? well, you are right. I am just doing what I believe is the order of the day. anna -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 3:30 AM To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] Public intellectuals Please see below in the link a clever response to Krystof's piece. It is still a very USA centered debate. It would be interesting to hear a bit how it resonates in other countries. As for Chile university profs are quite engaged in public debate, specially those in the social sciences. Many of them are more invested there than in the mainstream academic media, which is not necesarilly good as the connection between research and public discourse weakens. m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2014/02/why-is-academic-writing-so-academic.html Descarga la aplicaci?n oficial de Twitter aqu? Enviado desde mi iPhone= From annasfar@math.msu.edu Sat Feb 22 01:07:27 2014 From: annasfar@math.msu.edu (Sfard, Anna) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:07:27 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] the attachement - RE: Public intellectuals Message-ID: ok, ok, here it is -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: writing for the learning of math - for xmca.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 403923 bytes Desc: writing for the learning of math - for xmca.pdf Url : https://mailman.ucsd.edu/mailman/private/xmca-l/attachments/20140222/3652f973/attachment.pdf From laure.kloetzer@gmail.com Sat Feb 22 01:28:00 2014 From: laure.kloetzer@gmail.com (Laure Kloetzer) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 10:28:00 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Public intellectuals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Anna, Thank you very much for your comments. Would you mind explaining in more details why you expect the imminent catastrophe of annihilation of our world of scholarship ? I am sure that we all feel a sense of danger and emergency, but I am not sure that we all have the same things in mind when we think about these things. I am a "young" scholar (not so young in life, but young in the academy) and quite surprised, indeed, by what is happening around, and how people do (not) react. For example in our university, the administration decided in November to cut the number of hours by 10% this year, without any concertation, and asked the teachers to choose which courses should be suppressed and to tell their students - and only 10 out of more than 300 teachers resisted to this... Best regards, LK 2014-02-22 9:44 GMT+01:00 Sfard, Anna : > This discussion seems to me vitally important. The nice thing about us, > the xmca-ers, is that we are able to muster this special, critical-ironic > look at things. > > Not always, though, the criticism and irony go far enough. I think the > discussion, so far, has not acknowledged the seriousness of the problem. > Bad, very bad things are happening in academia these days, some of them > signaled in the present conversation, and some of them still left > unmentioned. In my opinion, we are witnessing academic climate change and > are possibly heading toward the annihilation of the world of scholarship. > These are strong words, I know, but I wonder what counter-arguments the > deniers may offer. I also think that perhaps the only way to fight this > imminent catastrophe (and our own present predicament as the dwellers of > the ivory tower) is to refuse collaboration with the forces that cause the > erosion. I do realize, of course, that such decision is easy to make when > you have already had your time in the academia and are relatively > untouchable. Still, if we refused collectively.... > > In this context I want to recommend two relevant publications: first, the > book by the British sociologist Michael Billig with the title that says it > all: Learn to write badly: How to succeed in the social sciences. (2013, > Cambridge, Mass.: Cambridge University Press; note the pessimistic ending > of the book); and second - the text by Zaheer Baber, titled "Said, Mills > and Jargon" - see > > http://www.epw.in/system/files/Said%20Mills%20and%20Jargon_0.pdf > > To these, I am adding yet another piece of writing, this time by myself > (see the attachment). This is a fragment of a text, now in print, which I > wrote for the celebratory 100th issue of a small but exceptional journal in > mathematics education with the name somewhat unusual in its form, "for the > learning of mathematics" (note the adverbial format and the lower case). > Run by Canadians, the journal follows the unwritten rules established by > its founder, the Englishman David Wheeler. These rules make it stand out > within the general landscape of the academic publishing (or to protrude > from the academic box, if you wish). In fact, it is the relative absence of > rules and the editors' courage to make their own "crazy" decisions that > makes it special. The attached fragment speaks about the context > (landscape) rather than about the journal itself. > > Hope some of these will make for not-too-demanding weekend reading. And if > you think all this is a provocation - well, you are right. I am just doing > what I believe is the order of the day. > anna > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto: > xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 3:30 AM > To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu > Subject: [Xmca-l] Public intellectuals > > Please see below in the link a clever response to Krystof's piece. It is > still a very USA centered debate. It would be interesting to hear a bit how > it resonates in other countries. As for Chile university profs are quite > engaged in public debate, specially those in the social sciences. Many of > them are more invested there than in the mainstream academic media, which > is not necesarilly good as the connection between research and public > discourse weakens. > > > > m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2014/02/why-is-academic-writing-so-academic.html > > Descarga la aplicaci?n oficial de Twitter aqu? > > > Enviado desde mi iPhone= > > From smago@uga.edu Sat Feb 22 03:36:27 2014 From: smago@uga.edu (Peter Smagorinsky) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:36:27 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Public intellectuals In-Reply-To: <44012872-E211-4898-B59A-6F7040BBC066@gmail.com> References: <44012872-E211-4898-B59A-6F7040BBC066@gmail.com> Message-ID: <617a2b25950942558e8260e3d76d05b7@CO1PR02MB175.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> I'm sure that these essays escaped your notice.....I've been urging more academics to write for the public since my appointment to the AERA committee on communication and outreach about 5 years ago. In case anyone's interested, in these essays (written to promote more public writing), I give reasons why we should, and why we don't, take on this task. Smagorinsky, P. (2013, September 19). Carpe diem in the public sphere. Part II. Writers Who Care. Available at http://writerswhocare.wordpress.com/2013/09/19/carpe-diem-in-the-public-sphere-part-ii/ Smagorinsky, P. (2013, September 16). Carpe diem in the public sphere. Part I. Writers Who Care. Available at http://writerswhocare.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/carpe-diem-in-the-public-sphere-part-i/ -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:30 PM To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] Public intellectuals Please see below in the link a clever response to Krystof's piece. It is still a very USA centered debate. It would be interesting to hear a bit how it resonates in other countries. As for Chile university profs are quite engaged in public debate, specially those in the social sciences. Many of them are more invested there than in the mainstream academic media, which is not necesarilly good as the connection between research and public discourse weakens. m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2014/02/why-is-academic-writing-so-academic.html Descarga la aplicaci?n oficial de Twitter aqu? Enviado desde mi iPhone From lchcmike@gmail.com Sat Feb 22 08:30:22 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:30:22 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? In-Reply-To: <2020751039.1053388.1393024854449.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> References: <2020751039.1053388.1393024854449.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Message-ID: I am reading Ponce fieldnotes at present. It would be really good to set up regular interaction times if possible. I look forward to seeing the data analysis. mike On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Bill Blanton wrote: > > Mike, I am in Scottsdale right now. When I get back to Miami I will send > you cd that I will send you cd of kids playing games with undergrads. We > broke marked events, wrote descriptions. and linked each video of each > description. All of this was indexed on a model influenced Arne. All you > would have to do is take our url scripts and put it up. This piece is still > launched out there in the ether. I just can't locate it yet. I will be back > March 2. > > BB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike cole" > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:03:00 PM > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Video Publishing?? > > Lara! How does one do this?? I assume it can be implemented with > "re-working". Who does one contact about the how to do its? > mike > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Lara Beaty wrote: > > > I talked with a journal about doing this and set up the article with a > > YouTube video embedded, but I'm still reworking the article. YouTube > makes > > it very easy. > > > > Best, > > Lara > > > > On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Jay Lemke wrote: > > > > > Mike and I would like some recommendations regarding online publishing > > > where video clips can be included along with text and images. > > > > > > Do you know of (1) online journals that support this, and (2) academic > > > publishers for book-length works that do so? > > > > > > The topic/content would be ethnography of learning/development, play, > and > > > emotion (based generally on the work of a 5th Dimension -style project > > with > > > kids and undergrads playing computer games). > > > > > > All suggestions welcome! > > > > > > JAY. > > > > > > PS. If you know of colleagues who may have some insight about video > > > publishing, please feel free to pass on our query. :-) > > > > > > Jay Lemke > > > LCHC/Department of Communication > > > University of California - San Diego > > > www.jaylemke.com > > > > > From pfarruggio@utpa.edu Mon Feb 24 03:43:32 2014 From: pfarruggio@utpa.edu (Peter Farruggio) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:43:32 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. Here are some alternatives http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 ________________________________________ From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube David, I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com www.readingroomcurriculum.com www.paulcmocombe.info From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Mon Feb 24 05:50:53 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:50:53 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> Message-ID: Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different leaders and their commitment to democracy is substantially different. Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting internet access to a full city among many other measures that qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see what they are reporting Thanks. David Enviado desde mi iPhone El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio escribi?: > The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. > > It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. > > Here are some alternatives > > http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ > > > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake > > http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ > > http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 > > > > ________________________________________ > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > > David, > > I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > President > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > www.mocombeian.com > www.readingroomcurriculum.com > www.paulcmocombe.info > From dkellogg60@gmail.com Mon Feb 24 06:51:35 2014 From: dkellogg60@gmail.com (David Kellogg) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:51:35 +0900 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: FW: New Journal In-Reply-To: References: <2111950636.46264.1392054350301.JavaMail.zimbra@psu.edu> <1939497872.46461.1392054613935.JavaMail.zimbra@psu.edu> <325145724.46810.1392055090442.JavaMail.zimbra@psu.edu> Message-ID: I was very enthusiastic about this journal when it was first launched, but I'm very disappointed. First of all, the website is VERY buggy: a) I got feedback on my article but I was not notified by email for months. b) I found it impossible to upload a revised version and had to resubmit as a new article. Secondly, when I did get the feedback, it was very unclear what exactly the editorial decision was, so I revised the article with all of the reviewer's complaints in mind. It was rejected again with exactly the same complaints as before (many of which were not particularly well founded in the first place, but were nevertheless taken account of in my revision). I think that a lot of smaller journals find it hard to get qualified and competent reviewers, and too many reviewers see reviewing as a competitive sport. Because the turn-around time is so long, it can take many years to get an forthright rejection and then you have either moved on to other things, or the data or lit survey is out of date, or all three. So--Caveat Scriptor: small journals with buggy websites and jaundiced reviewers are the graveyards of research. David Kellogg Hankuk University of Foreign Studies On 11 February 2014 03:11, Peter Smagorinsky wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: James Lantolf [mailto:jpl7@psu.edu] > > Peter, > I'm writing to invite you to submit a manuscript to our new journal, Language and Sociocultural Theory. It is published by Equinox Press. Its focus, as indicated in the title, is on either analyzing language, understood in a broad sense to include L1, L2, literacy, learning, teaching, multilingualism, policy, planning, etc. from the perspective of SCT or on analyzing the role of language in SCT. The journal is published twice a year with the first issue ready to appear this april. The second issue would appear in the fall, either late Oct. or early Nov. Here is the url for the website of the journal where you can find information on submissions. Let me know if you have questions. https://www.equinoxpub.com/journals/index.php/LST > > I look forward to your response. > > Best, > Jim > From glassman.13@osu.edu Mon Feb 24 06:52:08 2014 From: glassman.13@osu.edu (Glassman, Michael) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:52:08 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu>, Message-ID: <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is the role of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been competing articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the Ukraine. The different streams of information in themselves are fascinating and really speak to growing needs to be able to organize and differentiate information across topics. But what seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - the Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous protests (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine which is one of the reasons perhaps people have taken it more seriously - although I am having a harder time finding good information on the meaning behind what is happening). I wonder if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of movement towards change seriously are these types of easily available visual images that are not easy to manipulate. Michael ________________________________________ From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different leaders and their commitment to democracy is substantially different. Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting internet access to a full city among many other measures that qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see what they are reporting Thanks. David Enviado desde mi iPhone El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio escribi?: > The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. > > It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. > > Here are some alternatives > > http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ > > > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake > > http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ > > http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 > > > > ________________________________________ > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > > David, > > I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > President > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > www.mocombeian.com > www.readingroomcurriculum.com > www.paulcmocombe.info > From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Mon Feb 24 07:07:55 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 12:07:55 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> Message-ID: <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com> There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search "Tachira" in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there images of army planes flying over protestors, paramilitary shooting at people, protest violence and barricades, police shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of course political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or just search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are censored there a large part of the info is coming out from Twitter. That's why they shut down internet in San Cristobal. Once there you will find the most popular hashtags used for both sides. Enviado desde mi iPhone El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" escribi?: > One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is the role of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been competing articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the Ukraine. The different streams of information in themselves are fascinating and really speak to growing needs to be able to organize and differentiate information across topics. But what seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - the Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous protests (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine which is one of the reasons perhaps people have taken it more seriously - although I am having a harder time finding good information on the meaning behind what is happening). I wonder if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of movement towards change seriously are these types of easily available visual images that are not easy to manipulate. > > Michael > ________________________________________ > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > > Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different leaders and their commitment to democracy is substantially different. Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting internet access to a full city among many other measures that qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see what they are reporting Thanks. David > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio escribi?: > >> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. >> >> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. >> >> Here are some alternatives >> >> http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ >> >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake >> >> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ >> >> http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] >> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube >> >> David, >> >> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player >> >> >> >> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe >> President >> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. >> www.mocombeian.com >> www.readingroomcurriculum.com >> www.paulcmocombe.info > > > > From jlangerosuna@miami.edu Mon Feb 24 07:19:27 2014 From: jlangerosuna@miami.edu (Langer-Osuna, Jennifer Marie) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:19:27 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com> References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here's a blog that has some videos from Venezuela: http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/ Jennifer M. Langer-Osuna, PhD Assistant Professor, Department of Teaching and Learning University of Miami School of Education and Human Development 222-H Merrick Building Coral Gables, FL 33124-2040 Off: (305) 284-3206 Fax: (305) 284-6998 -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:08 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search "Tachira" in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there images of army planes flying over protestors, paramilitary shooting at people, protest violence and barricades, police shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of course political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or just search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are censored there a large part of the info is coming out from Twitter. That's why they shut down internet in San Cristobal. Once there you will find the most popular hashtags used for both sides. Enviado desde mi iPhone El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" escribi?: > One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is the role of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been competing articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the Ukraine. The different streams of information in themselves are fascinating and really speak to growing needs to be able to organize and differentiate information across topics. But what seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - the Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous protests (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine which is one of the reasons perhaps people have taken it more seriously - although I am having a harder time finding good information on the meaning behind what is happening). I wonder if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of movement towards change seriously are these types of easily available visual images that are not easy to manipulate. > > Michael > ________________________________________ > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > > Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different leaders and their commitment to democracy is substantially different. Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting internet access to a full city among many other measures that qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see what they are reporting Thanks. David > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio escribi?: > >> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. >> >> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. >> >> Here are some alternatives >> >> http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ >> >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake >> >> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ >> >> http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] >> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube >> >> David, >> >> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player >> >> >> >> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe >> President >> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. >> www.mocombeian.com >> www.readingroomcurriculum.com >> www.paulcmocombe.info > > > > From drobbins72000@yahoo.com Mon Feb 24 00:05:52 2014 From: drobbins72000@yahoo.com (Dot Robbins) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2014 09:05:52 +0100 Subject: [Xmca-l] Dot Robbins Message-ID: <20140224200607.4C01310ACAE@weber.ucsd.edu> From pfarruggio@utpa.edu Mon Feb 24 13:26:37 2014 From: pfarruggio@utpa.edu (Peter Farruggio) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:26:37 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com>, Message-ID: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E559686120AB@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> Don't underestimate the determination and cravenness of US imperialism. Similar to Ukraine,this is a classic right wing coup in the making http://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela-cia-and-u-s-defense-intelligence-agency-calling-for-armed-clashes-bloodshed-to-justify-military-intervention/5357989 ________________________________________ From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Langer-Osuna, Jennifer Marie [jlangerosuna@miami.edu] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:19 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube Here's a blog that has some videos from Venezuela: http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/ Jennifer M. Langer-Osuna, PhD Assistant Professor, Department of Teaching and Learning University of Miami School of Education and Human Development 222-H Merrick Building Coral Gables, FL 33124-2040 Off: (305) 284-3206 Fax: (305) 284-6998 -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:08 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search "Tachira" in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there images of army planes flying over protestors, paramilitary shooting at people, protest violence and barricades, police shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of course political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or just search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are censored there a large part of the info is coming out from Twitter. That's why they shut down internet in San Cristobal. Once there you will find the most popular hashtags used for both sides. Enviado desde mi iPhone El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" escribi?: > One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is the role of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been competing articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the Ukraine. The different streams of information in themselves are fascinating and really speak to growing needs to be able to organize and differentiate information across topics. But what seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - the Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous protests (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine which is one of the reasons perhaps people have taken it more seriously - although I am having a harder time finding good information on the meaning behind what is happening). I wonder if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of movement towards change seriously are these types of easily available visual images that are not easy to manipulate. > > Michael > ________________________________________ > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > > Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different leaders and their commitment to democracy is substantially different. Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting internet access to a full city among many other measures that qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see what they are reporting Thanks. David > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio escribi?: > >> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. >> >> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. >> >> Here are some alternatives >> >> http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ >> >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake >> >> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ >> >> http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] >> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube >> >> David, >> >> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player >> >> >> >> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe >> President >> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. >> www.mocombeian.com >> www.readingroomcurriculum.com >> www.paulcmocombe.info > > > > From pfarruggio@utpa.edu Mon Feb 24 13:41:52 2014 From: pfarruggio@utpa.edu (Peter Farruggio) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:41:52 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] phony "news" from Venezuela Message-ID: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E559686120C2@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> FAIR (fairness and accuracy in reporting) is a highly respected and professional journalists' organization that documents propaganda disguised as "reporting" Hugo Chavez was not perfect, but at least he liberated his country from the yoke of Wall St. Ever since his hugely popular rise to power in Venezuela, the US media, in collusion with nasty right wing forces in latin american, has published countless anti-Chavez diatribes purported to be news, with the NY Times leading the pack (By the way, remember Judith Miller's pro- GW Bush stories in the Times about the mythical weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, circa 2003? Now she's flying her true colors at the Manhattan Institute conservative think tank) Read here some background about the creator of the lurid video page http://www.fair.org/blog/2014/02/22/news-from-venezuela-but-where-is-it-coming-from/ ________________________________________ From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Langer-Osuna, Jennifer Marie [jlangerosuna@miami.edu] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:19 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube Here's a blog that has some videos from Venezuela: http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/ Jennifer M. Langer-Osuna, PhD Assistant Professor, Department of Teaching and Learning University of Miami School of Education and Human Development 222-H Merrick Building Coral Gables, FL 33124-2040 Off: (305) 284-3206 Fax: (305) 284-6998 -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:08 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search "Tachira" in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there images of army planes flying over protestors, paramilitary shooting at people, protest violence and barricades, police shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of course political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or just search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are censored there a large part of the info is coming out from Twitter. That's why they shut down internet in San Cristobal. Once there you will find the most popular hashtags used for both sides. Enviado desde mi iPhone El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" escribi?: > One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is the role of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been competing articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the Ukraine. The different streams of information in themselves are fascinating and really speak to growing needs to be able to organize and differentiate information across topics. But what seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - the Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous protests (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine which is one of the reasons perhaps people have taken it more seriously - although I am having a harder time finding good information on the meaning behind what is happening). I wonder if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of movement towards change seriously are these types of easily available visual images that are not easy to manipulate. > > Michael > ________________________________________ > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > > Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different leaders and their commitment to democracy is substantially different. Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting internet access to a full city among many other measures that qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see what they are reporting Thanks. David > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio escribi?: > >> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. >> >> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. >> >> Here are some alternatives >> >> http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ >> >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake >> >> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ >> >> http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] >> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube >> >> David, >> >> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on venezuela... >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player >> >> >> >> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe >> President >> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. >> www.mocombeian.com >> www.readingroomcurriculum.com >> www.paulcmocombe.info > > > > From ulvi.icil@gmail.com Mon Feb 24 13:46:32 2014 From: ulvi.icil@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?VWx2aSDEsMOnaWw=?=) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:46:32 +0200 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E559686120AB@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com> <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E559686120AB@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> Message-ID: Dijo Guevara el hermoso, viendo al ?frica llorar: en el imperio ma?oso nunca se debe confiar Silvio Rodriguez * I remember Stalin quoted to say, opening a world map in front of him on the table, after the 2nd WW, indicating to US and other imperialist powers and pointing to the red part of the world map where socialist constructions were under way: "They will never admit this, never". And he was right. Imperialism can never be trusted, never. Is it not US and other imperialism which caused tens of millions of dead? Is it like a joke that many people mention crimes in the Soviet Union etc, when they think to crimes against humanity and tend to forget about these two imperialist world wars, besides many others, Viet Nam. It is a complete a brain washing mechanism to close the way to humanity for a historical emancipation from imperialism and capitalism. By this, they say, "socialism is as bad as capitalism, so there is no successful exit from capitalism and imperialism. You are condemned to capitalism". Ulvi 2014-02-24 23:26 GMT+02:00 Peter Farruggio : > Don't underestimate the determination and cravenness of US imperialism. > Similar to Ukraine,this is a classic right wing coup in the making > > > http://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela-cia-and-u-s-defense-intelligence-agency-calling-for-armed-clashes-bloodshed-to-justify-military-intervention/5357989 > > > ________________________________________ > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] > on behalf of Langer-Osuna, Jennifer Marie [jlangerosuna@miami.edu] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:19 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By > U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on > YouTube > > Here's a blog that has some videos from Venezuela: > > http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/ > > > Jennifer M. Langer-Osuna, PhD > Assistant Professor, Department of Teaching and Learning > University of Miami > School of Education and Human Development > 222-H Merrick Building > Coral Gables, FL 33124-2040 > Off: (305) 284-3206 > Fax: (305) 284-6998 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto: > xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:08 AM > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By > U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > > There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search "Tachira" > in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there images of army planes > flying over protestors, paramilitary shooting at people, protest violence > and barricades, police shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of > course political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or just > search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are censored there > a large part of the info is coming out from Twitter. That's why they shut > down internet in San Cristobal. Once there you will find the most popular > hashtags used for both sides. > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" > escribi?: > > > One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is the role > of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been competing > articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the Ukraine. The different > streams of information in themselves are fascinating and really speak to > growing needs to be able to organize and differentiate information across > topics. But what seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - > the Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous protests > (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine which is one of the > reasons perhaps people have taken it more seriously - although I am having > a harder time finding good information on the meaning behind what is > happening). I wonder if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of > movement towards change seriously are these types of easily available > visual images that are not easy to manipulate. > > > > Michael > > ________________________________________ > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] > on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > > Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By > U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > > > > Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different leaders and > their commitment to democracy is substantially different. Certainly there > are extreme right members in the Venezuelan opposition as well. But it is > Maduro the one taking the military into the streets of Tachira, censuring > the media, cutting internet access to a full city among many other measures > that qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the > actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people in South > America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition to Pinochet and > other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's government. I am not going to > elaborate further because it is off topic for most members of this list. > Please go directly to the websites of Amnesty International and Human > Rights Watch and see what they are reporting Thanks. David > > > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > > > El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio > escribi?: > > > >> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist > "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet > of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in > Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where > operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite > violence. > >> > >> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on > information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is > anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. > >> > >> Here are some alternatives > >> > >> http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ > >> > >> > >> > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake > >> > >> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ > >> > >> http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________________ > >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] > on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] > >> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM > >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By > U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube > >> > >> David, > >> > >> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on > venezuela... > >> > >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player > >> > >> > >> > >> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > >> President > >> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. > >> www.mocombeian.com > >> www.readingroomcurriculum.com > >> www.paulcmocombe.info > > > > > > > > > > > > From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Mon Feb 24 14:14:27 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:14:27 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com> <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E559686120AB@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> Message-ID: <1F664997-8A08-406D-8BB4-A6B8E030E08A@gmail.com> I will leave you the last word here as regards the political analysis but will keep trusting the word of independent human rights organizarions, specially those with observers on the ground. (And, certainly, Stalin is not my guy.) Enviado desde mi iPhone El 24-02-2014, a las 18:46, Ulvi ??il escribi?: > Dijo Guevara el hermoso, > viendo al ?frica llorar: > en el imperio ma?oso > nunca se debe confiar > > Silvio Rodriguez > > * > > I remember Stalin quoted to say, opening a world map in front of him on the > table, after the 2nd WW, indicating to US and other imperialist powers and > pointing to the red part of the world map where socialist constructions > were under way: > > "They will never admit this, never". > > And he was right. > > Imperialism can never be trusted, never. > > Is it not US and other imperialism which caused tens of millions of dead? > Is it like a joke that many people mention crimes in the Soviet Union etc, > when they think to crimes against humanity and tend to forget about these > two imperialist world wars, besides many others, Viet Nam. > > It is a complete a brain washing mechanism to close the way to humanity for > a historical emancipation from imperialism and capitalism. By this, they > say, "socialism is as bad as capitalism, so there is no successful exit > from capitalism and imperialism. You are condemned to capitalism". > > Ulvi > > > > > > 2014-02-24 23:26 GMT+02:00 Peter Farruggio : > >> Don't underestimate the determination and cravenness of US imperialism. >> Similar to Ukraine,this is a classic right wing coup in the making >> >> >> http://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela-cia-and-u-s-defense-intelligence-agency-calling-for-armed-clashes-bloodshed-to-justify-military-intervention/5357989 >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] >> on behalf of Langer-Osuna, Jennifer Marie [jlangerosuna@miami.edu] >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:19 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By >> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on >> YouTube >> >> Here's a blog that has some videos from Venezuela: >> >> http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/ >> >> >> Jennifer M. Langer-Osuna, PhD >> Assistant Professor, Department of Teaching and Learning >> University of Miami >> School of Education and Human Development >> 222-H Merrick Building >> Coral Gables, FL 33124-2040 >> Off: (305) 284-3206 >> Fax: (305) 284-6998 >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto: >> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:08 AM >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By >> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube >> >> There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search "Tachira" >> in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there images of army planes >> flying over protestors, paramilitary shooting at people, protest violence >> and barricades, police shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of >> course political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or just >> search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are censored there >> a large part of the info is coming out from Twitter. That's why they shut >> down internet in San Cristobal. Once there you will find the most popular >> hashtags used for both sides. >> >> Enviado desde mi iPhone >> >> El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" >> escribi?: >> >>> One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is the role >> of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been competing >> articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the Ukraine. The different >> streams of information in themselves are fascinating and really speak to >> growing needs to be able to organize and differentiate information across >> topics. But what seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - >> the Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous protests >> (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine which is one of the >> reasons perhaps people have taken it more seriously - although I am having >> a harder time finding good information on the meaning behind what is >> happening). I wonder if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of >> movement towards change seriously are these types of easily available >> visual images that are not easy to manipulate. >>> >>> Michael >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] >> on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM >>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By >> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube >>> >>> Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different leaders and >> their commitment to democracy is substantially different. Certainly there >> are extreme right members in the Venezuelan opposition as well. But it is >> Maduro the one taking the military into the streets of Tachira, censuring >> the media, cutting internet access to a full city among many other measures >> that qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the >> actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people in South >> America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition to Pinochet and >> other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's government. I am not going to >> elaborate further because it is off topic for most members of this list. >> Please go directly to the websites of Amnesty International and Human >> Rights Watch and see what they are reporting Thanks. David >>> >>> Enviado desde mi iPhone >>> >>> El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio >> escribi?: >>> >>>> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical imperialist >> "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is not a puppet >> of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to Allende's government in >> Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist government in Iran in 1953, where >> operatives in the US embassy paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite >> violence. >>>> >>>> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly on >> information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is >> anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. >>>> >>>> Here are some alternatives >>>> >>>> http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ >> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake >>>> >>>> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ >>>> >>>> http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] >> on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] >>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM >>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By >> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube >>>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going on >> venezuela... >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe >>>> President >>>> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. >>>> www.mocombeian.com >>>> www.readingroomcurriculum.com >>>> www.paulcmocombe.info >> >> >> >> From info@arto.me Mon Feb 24 14:30:53 2014 From: info@arto.me (info@arto.me) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:30:53 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: <1F664997-8A08-406D-8BB4-A6B8E030E08A@gmail.com> References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com> <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E559686120AB@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <1F664997-8A08-406D-8BB4-A6B8E030E08A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <530BC81D.1000704@arto.me> "Independent human rights organizations"? Right, you must enjoy drinking Leopoldo Lopez's Kool Aid. I share this illuminating article by Max Blumenthal on Lopez, the great democratic hope of Venezuelan capitalists: http://maxblumenthal.com/2014/02/who-is-leopoldo-lopez/ On 02/24/2014 05:14 PM, David Preiss wrote: > I will leave you the last word here as regards the political analysis > but will keep trusting the word of independent human rights > organizarions, specially those with observers on the ground. (And, > certainly, Stalin is not my guy.) > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 24-02-2014, a las 18:46, Ulvi ??il > escribi?: > >> Dijo Guevara el hermoso, viendo al ?frica llorar: en el imperio >> ma?oso nunca se debe confiar >> >> Silvio Rodriguez >> >> * >> >> I remember Stalin quoted to say, opening a world map in front of >> him on the table, after the 2nd WW, indicating to US and other >> imperialist powers and pointing to the red part of the world map >> where socialist constructions were under way: >> >> "They will never admit this, never". >> >> And he was right. >> >> Imperialism can never be trusted, never. >> >> Is it not US and other imperialism which caused tens of millions >> of dead? Is it like a joke that many people mention crimes in the >> Soviet Union etc, when they think to crimes against humanity and >> tend to forget about these two imperialist world wars, besides many >> others, Viet Nam. >> >> It is a complete a brain washing mechanism to close the way to >> humanity for a historical emancipation from imperialism and >> capitalism. By this, they say, "socialism is as bad as capitalism, >> so there is no successful exit from capitalism and imperialism. >> You are condemned to capitalism". >> >> Ulvi >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-02-24 23:26 GMT+02:00 Peter Farruggio : >> >>> Don't underestimate the determination and cravenness of US >>> imperialism. Similar to Ukraine,this is a classic right wing coup >>> in the making >>> >>> >>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela-cia-and-u-s-defense-intelligence-agency-calling-for-armed-clashes-bloodshed-to-justify-military-intervention/5357989 >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Langer-Osuna, >>> Jennifer Marie [jlangerosuna@miami.edu] Sent: Monday, February >>> 24, 2014 9:19 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: >>> [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt >>> By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" >>> on YouTube >>> >>> Here's a blog that has some videos from Venezuela: >>> >>> http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/ >>> >>> >>> Jennifer M. Langer-Osuna, PhD Assistant Professor, Department of >>> Teaching and Learning University of Miami School of Education and >>> Human Development 222-H Merrick Building Coral Gables, FL >>> 33124-2040 Off: (305) 284-3206 Fax: (305) 284-6998 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>> [mailto: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David >>> Preiss Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:08 AM To: eXtended >>> Mind, Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt >>> By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on >>> YouTube >>> >>> There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search >>> "Tachira" in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there >>> images of army planes flying over protestors, paramilitary >>> shooting at people, protest violence and barricades, police >>> shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of course >>> political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or >>> just search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are >>> censored there a large part of the info is coming out from >>> Twitter. That's why they shut down internet in San Cristobal. >>> Once there you will find the most popular hashtags used for both >>> sides. >>> >>> Enviado desde mi iPhone >>> >>> El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" >>> escribi?: >>> >>>> One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is >>>> the role >>> of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been >>> competing articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the >>> Ukraine. The different streams of information in themselves are >>> fascinating and really speak to growing needs to be able to >>> organize and differentiate information across topics. But what >>> seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - the >>> Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous >>> protests (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine >>> which is one of the reasons perhaps people have taken it more >>> seriously - although I am having a harder time finding good >>> information on the meaning behind what is happening). I wonder >>> if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of movement >>> towards change seriously are these types of easily available >>> visual images that are not easy to manipulate. >>>> >>>> Michael ________________________________________ From: >>>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] >>> on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM To: eXtended Mind, >>>> Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: >>>> [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By >>> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on >>> YouTube >>>> >>>> Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different >>>> leaders and >>> their commitment to democracy is substantially different. >>> Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan >>> opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military >>> into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting >>> internet access to a full city among many other measures that >>> qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the >>> actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people >>> in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition >>> to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's >>> government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off >>> topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the >>> websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see >>> what they are reporting Thanks. David >>>> >>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone >>>> >>>> El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio >>>> >>> escribi?: >>>> >>>>> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical >>>>> imperialist >>> "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is >>> not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to >>> Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist >>> government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy >>> paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. >>>>> >>>>> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly >>>>> on >>> information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is >>> anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. >>>>> >>>>> Here are some alternatives >>>>> >>>>> http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ >>> >>>>> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake >>>>> >>>>> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ From: >>>>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] >>> on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM To: eXtended Mind, >>>>> Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan >>>>> Protests: Another Attempt By >>> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on >>> YouTube >>>>> >>>>> David, >>>>> >>>>> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going >>>>> on >>> venezuela... >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe >>>>> President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com >>>>> www.readingroomcurriculum.com www.paulcmocombe.info >>> >>> >>> >>> > From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Mon Feb 24 14:39:56 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:39:56 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: <530BC81D.1000704@arto.me> References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com> <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E559686120AB@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <1F664997-8A08-406D-8BB4-A6B8E030E08A@gmail.com> <530BC81D.1000704@arto.me> Message-ID: <6E1501AE-CCDA-423F-B95E-CEA2202F29B7@gmail.com> I am not going to reply ironic or personal attacks. Not in a list that has a dialogical purpose and spirit such XMCA. I trust Amnesty International, HRW, and I am also getting news from PROVEA in Venezuela (Spanish required). I have a concern for civilians. News are not good. We are misinformed for many reasons. Just for the record: I am not a fan of Leopoldo Lopez either. Enviado desde mi iPhone El 24-02-2014, a las 19:30, "info@arto.me" escribi?: > "Independent human rights organizations"? Right, you must enjoy > drinking Leopoldo Lopez's Kool Aid. > > I share this illuminating article by Max Blumenthal on Lopez, the great > democratic hope of Venezuelan capitalists: > http://maxblumenthal.com/2014/02/who-is-leopoldo-lopez/ > > On 02/24/2014 05:14 PM, David Preiss wrote: >> I will leave you the last word here as regards the political analysis >> but will keep trusting the word of independent human rights >> organizarions, specially those with observers on the ground. (And, >> certainly, Stalin is not my guy.) >> >> Enviado desde mi iPhone >> >> El 24-02-2014, a las 18:46, Ulvi ??il >> escribi?: >> >>> Dijo Guevara el hermoso, viendo al ?frica llorar: en el imperio >>> ma?oso nunca se debe confiar >>> >>> Silvio Rodriguez >>> >>> * >>> >>> I remember Stalin quoted to say, opening a world map in front of >>> him on the table, after the 2nd WW, indicating to US and other >>> imperialist powers and pointing to the red part of the world map >>> where socialist constructions were under way: >>> >>> "They will never admit this, never". >>> >>> And he was right. >>> >>> Imperialism can never be trusted, never. >>> >>> Is it not US and other imperialism which caused tens of millions >>> of dead? Is it like a joke that many people mention crimes in the >>> Soviet Union etc, when they think to crimes against humanity and >>> tend to forget about these two imperialist world wars, besides many >>> others, Viet Nam. >>> >>> It is a complete a brain washing mechanism to close the way to >>> humanity for a historical emancipation from imperialism and >>> capitalism. By this, they say, "socialism is as bad as capitalism, >>> so there is no successful exit from capitalism and imperialism. >>> You are condemned to capitalism". >>> >>> Ulvi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2014-02-24 23:26 GMT+02:00 Peter Farruggio : >>> >>>> Don't underestimate the determination and cravenness of US >>>> imperialism. Similar to Ukraine,this is a classic right wing coup >>>> in the making >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela-cia-and-u-s-defense-intelligence-agency-calling-for-armed-clashes-bloodshed-to-justify-military-intervention/5357989 > ________________________________________ >>>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Langer-Osuna, >>>> Jennifer Marie [jlangerosuna@miami.edu] Sent: Monday, February >>>> 24, 2014 9:19 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: >>>> [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt >>>> By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" >>>> on YouTube >>>> >>>> Here's a blog that has some videos from Venezuela: >>>> >>>> http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Jennifer M. Langer-Osuna, PhD Assistant Professor, Department of >>>> Teaching and Learning University of Miami School of Education and >>>> Human Development 222-H Merrick Building Coral Gables, FL >>>> 33124-2040 Off: (305) 284-3206 Fax: (305) 284-6998 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>> [mailto: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David >>>> Preiss Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:08 AM To: eXtended >>>> Mind, Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity >>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt >>>> By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on >>>> YouTube >>>> >>>> There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search >>>> "Tachira" in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there >>>> images of army planes flying over protestors, paramilitary >>>> shooting at people, protest violence and barricades, police >>>> shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of course >>>> political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or >>>> just search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are >>>> censored there a large part of the info is coming out from >>>> Twitter. That's why they shut down internet in San Cristobal. >>>> Once there you will find the most popular hashtags used for both >>>> sides. >>>> >>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone >>>> >>>> El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" >>>> escribi?: >>>> >>>>> One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is >>>>> the role >>>> of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been >>>> competing articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the >>>> Ukraine. The different streams of information in themselves are >>>> fascinating and really speak to growing needs to be able to >>>> organize and differentiate information across topics. But what >>>> seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - the >>>> Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous >>>> protests (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine >>>> which is one of the reasons perhaps people have taken it more >>>> seriously - although I am having a harder time finding good >>>> information on the meaning behind what is happening). I wonder >>>> if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of movement >>>> towards change seriously are these types of easily available >>>> visual images that are not easy to manipulate. >>>>> >>>>> Michael ________________________________________ From: >>>>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] >>>> on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM To: eXtended Mind, >>>>> Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: >>>>> [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By >>>> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on >>>> YouTube >>>>> >>>>> Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different >>>>> leaders and >>>> their commitment to democracy is substantially different. >>>> Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan >>>> opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military >>>> into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting >>>> internet access to a full city among many other measures that >>>> qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the >>>> actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people >>>> in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition >>>> to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's >>>> government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off >>>> topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the >>>> websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see >>>> what they are reporting Thanks. David >>>>> >>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone >>>>> >>>>> El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio >>>>> >>>> escribi?: >>>>> >>>>>> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical >>>>>> imperialist >>>> "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is >>>> not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to >>>> Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist >>>> government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy >>>> paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly >>>>>> on >>>> information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is >>>> anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are some alternatives >>>>>> >>>>>> http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ >>>> > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake >>>>>> >>>>>> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ > http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________________ From: >>>>>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu >>>>>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] >>>> on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM To: eXtended Mind, >>>>>> Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan >>>>>> Protests: Another Attempt By >>>> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on >>>> YouTube >>>>>> >>>>>> David, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going >>>>>> on >>>> venezuela... >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe >>>>>> President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com >>>>>> www.readingroomcurriculum.com www.paulcmocombe.info > From lchcmike@gmail.com Mon Feb 24 15:06:57 2014 From: lchcmike@gmail.com (mike cole) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:06:57 -0800 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on YouTube In-Reply-To: <530BC81D.1000704@arto.me> References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E55968611EB6@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <54248F6464A3874BB28FFF75F616AED6AB15752F@CIO-KRC-D1MBX01.osuad.osu.edu> <8E12CE7B-30CC-44D5-BEC2-FFF712ED7F99@gmail.com> <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E559686120AB@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> <1F664997-8A08-406D-8BB4-A6B8E030E08A@gmail.com> <530BC81D.1000704@arto.me> Message-ID: Dear info at arto.me and all of xmca The use of invective language on xmca is unacceptable. Agree or disagree about Venezuelan, Ukrainian, Stalinist, etc truths/certainties and other virtues, *XMCA is not the place for name calling. * mike at ucsd dot edu On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM, info@arto.me wrote: > "Independent human rights organizations"? Right, you must enjoy > drinking Leopoldo Lopez's Kool Aid. > > I share this illuminating article by Max Blumenthal on Lopez, the great > democratic hope of Venezuelan capitalists: > http://maxblumenthal.com/2014/02/who-is-leopoldo-lopez/ > > On 02/24/2014 05:14 PM, David Preiss wrote: > > I will leave you the last word here as regards the political analysis > > but will keep trusting the word of independent human rights > > organizarions, specially those with observers on the ground. (And, > > certainly, Stalin is not my guy.) > > > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > > > El 24-02-2014, a las 18:46, Ulvi ??il > > escribi?: > > > >> Dijo Guevara el hermoso, viendo al ?frica llorar: en el imperio > >> ma?oso nunca se debe confiar > >> > >> Silvio Rodriguez > >> > >> * > >> > >> I remember Stalin quoted to say, opening a world map in front of > >> him on the table, after the 2nd WW, indicating to US and other > >> imperialist powers and pointing to the red part of the world map > >> where socialist constructions were under way: > >> > >> "They will never admit this, never". > >> > >> And he was right. > >> > >> Imperialism can never be trusted, never. > >> > >> Is it not US and other imperialism which caused tens of millions > >> of dead? Is it like a joke that many people mention crimes in the > >> Soviet Union etc, when they think to crimes against humanity and > >> tend to forget about these two imperialist world wars, besides many > >> others, Viet Nam. > >> > >> It is a complete a brain washing mechanism to close the way to > >> humanity for a historical emancipation from imperialism and > >> capitalism. By this, they say, "socialism is as bad as capitalism, > >> so there is no successful exit from capitalism and imperialism. > >> You are condemned to capitalism". > >> > >> Ulvi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 2014-02-24 23:26 GMT+02:00 Peter Farruggio : > >> > >>> Don't underestimate the determination and cravenness of US > >>> imperialism. Similar to Ukraine,this is a classic right wing coup > >>> in the making > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela-cia-and-u-s-defense-intelligence-agency-calling-for-armed-clashes-bloodshed-to-justify-military-intervention/5357989 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ________________________________________ > >>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu > >>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Langer-Osuna, > >>> Jennifer Marie [jlangerosuna@miami.edu] Sent: Monday, February > >>> 24, 2014 9:19 AM To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: > >>> [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt > >>> By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" > >>> on YouTube > >>> > >>> Here's a blog that has some videos from Venezuela: > >>> > >>> http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/ > >>> > >>> > >>> Jennifer M. Langer-Osuna, PhD Assistant Professor, Department of > >>> Teaching and Learning University of Miami School of Education and > >>> Human Development 222-H Merrick Building Coral Gables, FL > >>> 33124-2040 Off: (305) 284-3206 Fax: (305) 284-6998 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu > >>> [mailto: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David > >>> Preiss Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:08 AM To: eXtended > >>> Mind, Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity > >>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt > >>> By U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on > >>> YouTube > >>> > >>> There are THOUSANDS of pictures in Twitter and facebook. Search > >>> "Tachira" in Twitter search, for instance. You can find there > >>> images of army planes flying over protestors, paramilitary > >>> shooting at people, protest violence and barricades, police > >>> shooting at residential compounds and so on. And of course > >>> political satire and people fighting each other verbally. Or > >>> just search for Venezuela there. Indeed as most of the media are > >>> censored there a large part of the info is coming out from > >>> Twitter. That's why they shut down internet in San Cristobal. > >>> Once there you will find the most popular hashtags used for both > >>> sides. > >>> > >>> Enviado desde mi iPhone > >>> > >>> El 24-02-2014, a las 11:52, "Glassman, Michael" > >>> escribi?: > >>> > >>>> One of the interesting things to consider, at least to me, is > >>>> the role > >>> of the Internet and sharing of information. There have been > >>> competing articles on Venezuela and also for that matter the > >>> Ukraine. The different streams of information in themselves are > >>> fascinating and really speak to growing needs to be able to > >>> organize and differentiate information across topics. But what > >>> seems missing from the Venezuela story are the pictures - the > >>> Twitter or Youtube public documentation of large, spontaneous > >>> protests (there are these types of pictures from the Ukraine > >>> which is one of the reasons perhaps people have taken it more > >>> seriously - although I am having a harder time finding good > >>> information on the meaning behind what is happening). I wonder > >>> if a new initial hurdle for taking these types of movement > >>> towards change seriously are these types of easily available > >>> visual images that are not easy to manipulate. > >>>> > >>>> Michael ________________________________________ From: > >>>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu > >>>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] > >>> on behalf of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] > >>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:50 AM To: eXtended Mind, > >>>> Culture, Activity Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity Subject: > >>>> [Xmca-l] Re: Watch "Venezuelan Protests: Another Attempt By > >>> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on > >>> YouTube > >>>> > >>>> Allende 1973 is not Maduro 2014. They are very different > >>>> leaders and > >>> their commitment to democracy is substantially different. > >>> Certainly there are extreme right members in the Venezuelan > >>> opposition as well. But it is Maduro the one taking the military > >>> into the streets of Tachira, censuring the media, cutting > >>> internet access to a full city among many other measures that > >>> qualify as not properly democratic. And I haven't mentioned the > >>> actions of the government paramilitary yet. There is many people > >>> in South America that are not "imperialist" but former opposition > >>> to Pinochet and other dictatorships denouncing Venezuela's > >>> government. I am not going to elaborate further because it is off > >>> topic for most members of this list. Please go directly to the > >>> websites of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and see > >>> what they are reporting Thanks. David > >>>> > >>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone > >>>> > >>>> El 24-02-2014, a las 8:43, Peter Farruggio > >>>> > >>> escribi?: > >>>> > >>>>> The current situation in Venezuela looks like the typical > >>>>> imperialist > >>> "destabilization" tactic against an elected government that is > >>> not a puppet of Wall Street. Very similar things were done to > >>> Allende's government in Chile and to Mossadegh's nationalist > >>> government in Iran in 1953, where operatives in the US embassy > >>> paid armed street gangs to rampage and incite violence. > >>>>> > >>>>> It's unfortunate that the corporate media has such a monopoly > >>>>> on > >>> information, especially in the US, so that all we seem to get is > >>> anti-government bias in the "reportage" from Venezuela. > >>>>> > >>>>> Here are some alternatives > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://wearechange.org/us-supporting-oligarch-coup-attempt-venezuela/ > >>> > >>>>> > > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/18/venezuela-protests-us-support-regime-change-mistake > >>>>> > >>>>> http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/6418 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________________ From: > >>>>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu > >>>>> [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] > >>> on behalf of Dr. Paul C. Mocombe [pmocombe@mocombeian.com] > >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:47 AM To: eXtended Mind, > >>>>> Culture, Activity Subject: [Xmca-l] Watch "Venezuelan > >>>>> Protests: Another Attempt By > >>> U.S.-Backed Right-Wing Groups To Oust Elected Government?" on > >>> YouTube > >>>>> > >>>>> David, > >>>>> > >>>>> I have some issues with your interpretation of what is going > >>>>> on > >>> venezuela... > >>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVOqhUl6Dp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe > >>>>> President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com > >>>>> www.readingroomcurriculum.com www.paulcmocombe.info > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > From pfarruggio@utpa.edu Tue Feb 25 04:07:52 2014 From: pfarruggio@utpa.edu (Peter Farruggio) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:07:52 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] public shaming by ed deformers Message-ID: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E5596861231D@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> A disgusting example of more public shaming promoted by the neoliberal ed deformers. Zoom in on the photo and you'll see each kid ranked by a test score (below, proficient, advanced) Let's not forget the tragedy of 5th grade Los Angeles teacher Rigoberto Ruelas, who was dedicated to his "underperforming" students. He committed suicide in 2010, right after he was listed as "ineffective" on a list, published in the LA Times, that ranked teachers by their students' test scores. Pete Farruggio ________________________________________ From: oaklandteachers-request@lists.riseup.net [oaklandteachers-request@lists.riseup.net] on behalf of Jim Mordecai [jim2812@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:54 PM Teachers: Read an excellent put-down of data wall: http://curmudgucation.blogspot.com/2014/02/up-against-data-wall.html From huw.softdesigns@gmail.com Tue Feb 25 04:26:43 2014 From: huw.softdesigns@gmail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:26:43 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: public shaming by ed deformers In-Reply-To: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E5596861231D@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> References: <61A61D2350EA0A429838AFA91283E5596861231D@cc-infdbmbx5.ds.utpa.edu> Message-ID: Dear Peter, Can we please leave the glorification of shame and fear for our experts in the tabloids / tv? Rather than inflamatory emails of the form "here is some nasty business", I think it would be better to register them as examples, i.e. critically explored with respect to your knowledge. Without this it seems to me that you're communicating the same thing that you're protesting against. Does that sound reasonable? Best, Huw On 25 February 2014 12:07, Peter Farruggio wrote: > A disgusting example of more public shaming promoted by the neoliberal ed > deformers. Zoom in on the photo and you'll see each kid ranked by a test > score (below, proficient, advanced) > > Let's not forget the tragedy of 5th grade Los Angeles teacher Rigoberto > Ruelas, who was dedicated to his "underperforming" students. He committed > suicide in 2010, right after he was listed as "ineffective" on a list, > published in the LA Times, that ranked teachers by their students' test > scores. > > Pete Farruggio > ________________________________________ > From: oaklandteachers-request@lists.riseup.net [ > oaklandteachers-request@lists.riseup.net] on behalf of Jim Mordecai [ > jim2812@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:54 PM > > Teachers: > > Read an excellent put-down of data wall: > > http://curmudgucation.blogspot.com/2014/02/up-against-data-wall.html > From pmocombe@mocombeian.com Tue Feb 25 11:40:24 2014 From: pmocombe@mocombeian.com (Dr. Paul C. Mocombe) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:40:24 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: British Schools & the Black Child: New Conversations - 8th March 2014, Birmingham Message-ID: For those in the UK working on the black academic achievement gap, my coauthor, dr. Carol tomlin, will be presenting a paper at the following conference...see below Dr. Paul C. Mocombe President The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc. www.mocombeian.com? www.readingroomcurriculum.com? www.paulcmocombe.info?
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From: carol Tomlin
Date:02/25/2014 2:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Paul Mocombe ,Sarah Olney ,Cecile Wright
Subject: Fwd: British Schools & the Black Child: New Conversations - 8th March 2014, Birmingham
Hi Paul& Sarah, See below. I will be presenting at this conference on black girls but I will be focusing on achievement. Can I have some flyers of the latest book, race and class, posted to my address for the conference: 4 Asbury Court Great Barr Birmingham B43 6QS Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: "RIBEIRO-ADDY, Bell" Date: 18 February 2014 16:10:09 GMT To: "Carol Tomlin (Professional)" Subject: RE: British Schools & the Black Child: New Conversations - 8th March 2014, Birmingham Dear Carol, ? We are so pleased that you can attend and many thanks for circulating the information. More information and the agenda will be sent out very soon. ? Kind regards, ? ? Bell Ribeiro-Addy Office of Diane Abbott MP House of Commons London | SW1A 0AA Tel: 0207 219 4426 Fax: 0207 219 4964 www.dianeabbott.org.uk ? From: Carol Tomlin (Professional) [mailto:info@caroltomlin.com] Sent: 14 February 2014 18:42 To: RIBEIRO-ADDY, Bell Subject: Re: British Schools & the Black Child: New Conversations - 8th March 2014, Birmingham ? Dear Bell, ? I have circulated this to my contacts in Birmingham, including the Black led Council of Churches, that has a fairly extensive database... On 14 Feb 2014, at 18:04, Diane Abbott MP wrote: Information regarding "A New Conversation About British Schools and the Black Child" - 8th March 2014. Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. ? ? British Schools? &?the?Black ?Child: New Conversations 8th March, 2014 Birmingham Hosted by the?Center for Research on Race in Education,?School of Education, University of Birmingham ? Diane Abbott MP set up the London Schools and the Black Child (LSBC) initiative 10 years ago and for a decade the initiative has organised, researched and campaigned about the manner in which the British education system fails black children. ? LSBC has worked with the black community both here and overseas to highlight and challenge educational inequality. Since LSBC began we have seen improvements in educational outcomes for black children. We know that with the right support and opportunities our children can break down the stereotypes and rank amongst the very best in the country. But the discourse on equity and social justice in education has become ?colourblind? at a time when the student demographic profile has never been more diverse. Together with the fundamental changes currently occurring in the education system, the danger is that hard won programs for black children will be lost. We need to create a new narrative to make sure black children, black parents and black educators are heard and not left behind. ?This conference will provide an opportunity for pupils, teachers, parents, academics and community groups to discuss how to navigate this new educational landscape. ? Topics of discussion include: Exclusions, managed moves and pupil referral units Developing young leaders Challenges in further and higher education Policy changes implications for black students and educators Ground breaking examples of preventative work It takes a Village - real Head teachers talking Black girls, identity and culture *This event is free and open to all however places are strictly limited and all individuals?must?register to attend.? (*Children are welcome, childcare however will not be provided) DEADLINE:?Monday 3rd March? *If you require any further information please email:?Bell.RA@parliament.uk Sponsored by: ? ? ? ? ??? ? ?? ? ? ? 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This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Wed Feb 26 06:47:49 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:47:49 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] Academic freedom vs academic justice? Message-ID: <6A6BF911-63A1-4950-A8D8-5AD08B0A2726@gmail.com> A student at the Harvard Crimson called to end with academic freedom and replace it with a new concept: academic justice, which includes a censorship component to those ideas that may be considered unethical, racist and so on such as those of Hernstein and Murray on intelligence and race. The debate is open. What are the limits of academic tolerance? When stuff is a fact and when stuff is diffamation? What sort of epistemology would set criteria to censor ideas? www.thecrimson.com/column/the-red-line/article/2014/2/18/academic-freedom-justice?page=1 David Descarga la aplicaci?n oficial de Twitter aqu? Enviado desde mi iPhone From huw.softdesigns@gmail.com Wed Feb 26 07:01:53 2014 From: huw.softdesigns@gmail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:01:53 +0000 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Academic freedom vs academic justice? In-Reply-To: <6A6BF911-63A1-4950-A8D8-5AD08B0A2726@gmail.com> References: <6A6BF911-63A1-4950-A8D8-5AD08B0A2726@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 26 February 2014 14:47, David Preiss wrote: > > A student at the Harvard Crimson called to end with academic freedom and > replace it with a new concept: academic justice, which includes a > censorship component to those ideas that may be considered unethical, > racist and so on such as those of Hernstein and Murray on intelligence and > race. The debate is open. What are the limits of academic tolerance? When > stuff is a fact and when stuff is diffamation? What sort of epistemology > would set criteria to censor ideas? > > When it is lazy, stream-lined and rule-bound. We need unethical ideas to maintain our ethical standards (love your enemy). Best, Huw > > www.thecrimson.com/column/the-red-line/article/2014/2/18/academic-freedom-justice?page=1 > > > David > > > Descarga la aplicaci?n oficial de Twitter aqu? > > > Enviado desde mi iPhone From daviddpreiss@gmail.com Fri Feb 28 09:59:50 2014 From: daviddpreiss@gmail.com (David Preiss) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:59:50 -0300 Subject: [Xmca-l] The Secret Auden by Edward Mendelson | The New York Review of Books Message-ID: <48DF724E-7FC7-43D9-88DE-6BCE09CC1124@gmail.com> This beautifully written article about Auden at the NYRB will interest creativity researchers in this list. I loved the image of a poet not consumed by narcissism and self-reference and engaged with the others in an un-public manner. David http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/mar/20/secret-auden/?page=1 From Phillip.White@ucdenver.edu Fri Feb 28 13:09:14 2014 From: Phillip.White@ucdenver.edu (White, Phillip) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:09:14 -0700 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Secret Auden by Edward Mendelson | The New York Review of Books In-Reply-To: <48DF724E-7FC7-43D9-88DE-6BCE09CC1124@gmail.com> References: <48DF724E-7FC7-43D9-88DE-6BCE09CC1124@gmail.com> Message-ID: David, i found this essay fascinating and (i hesitate to use this word because it is at times so hackneyed, but...) inspirational. it also brought to mind Norman Manea's essay "Exile" - which begins: The increased nationalism and religious fundamentalism all around the world, the dangerous conflicts between minorities in Eastern Europe, and a growing xenophobia emphasize one of the main contradictions of our time: between centrifugal cosmopolitan modernity and the centripetal need (or at least nostalgia) for belonging. We are reminded again and again of the ancient yet constant predicament of the foreigner and the stranger." (1992) certainly Auden was in exile not just as a stranger and a foreigner but as a poet, as well as being gay - and yet, while Blanch Dubois noted that she depended upon the kindness of strangers, so may we all. and, Lois Holzman, congratulations of a well deserved honor! phillip ________________________________________ From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 10:59 AM To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu Subject: [Xmca-l] The Secret Auden by Edward Mendelson | The New York Review of Books This beautifully written article about Auden at the NYRB will interest creativity researchers in this list. I loved the image of a poet not consumed by narcissism and self-reference and engaged with the others in an un-public manner. David http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/mar/20/secret-auden/?page=1 From lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Fri Feb 28 15:59:16 2014 From: lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org (Lois Holzman) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:59:16 -0500 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Secret Auden by Edward Mendelson | The New York Review of Books In-Reply-To: References: <48DF724E-7FC7-43D9-88DE-6BCE09CC1124@gmail.com> Message-ID: <96FFBDCD-8D47-4E94-982E-2A254328C720@eastsideinstitute.org> Thanks, Phillip! Lois Holzman Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy 104-106 South Oxford Street Brooklyn, New York 11217 Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324 Fax +1.718.797.3966 lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org Social Media Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter Blogs Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News Websites Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World All Stars Project On Feb 28, 2014, at 4:09 PM, White, Phillip wrote: > David, i found this essay fascinating and (i hesitate to use this word because it is at times so hackneyed, but...) inspirational. > > it also brought to mind Norman Manea's essay "Exile" - which begins: > > The increased nationalism and religious fundamentalism all around the world, the dangerous conflicts between minorities in Eastern Europe, and a growing xenophobia emphasize one of the main contradictions of our time: between centrifugal cosmopolitan modernity and the centripetal need (or at least nostalgia) for belonging. We are reminded again and again of the ancient yet constant predicament of the foreigner and the stranger." (1992) > > certainly Auden was in exile not just as a stranger and a foreigner but as a poet, as well as being gay - and yet, while Blanch Dubois noted that she depended upon the kindness of strangers, so may we all. > > and, Lois Holzman, congratulations of a well deserved honor! > > phillip > > > ________________________________________ > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David Preiss [daviddpreiss@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 10:59 AM > To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu > Subject: [Xmca-l] The Secret Auden by Edward Mendelson | The New York Review of Books > > This beautifully written article about Auden at the NYRB will interest creativity researchers in this list. I loved the image of a poet not consumed by narcissism and self-reference and engaged with the others in an un-public manner. > David > > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/mar/20/secret-auden/?page=1