[Xmca-l] Re: Changing Practices at XMCA

Charles Bazerman bazerman@education.ucsb.edu
Fri Dec 12 15:54:41 PST 2014


Yes, this is a public list and posters should keep in mind there are 800 potential readers for each post. Be considerate.
Chuck 

----- Original Message -----
From: David Preiss <daviddpreiss@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:07 am
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Changing Practices at XMCA
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>

> I strongly support these two. Current use makes even lurking a hard 
> task. If one wants personal exchanges better go off list. Just a 
> thought. 
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
> > El 12-12-2014, a las 18:49, Helena Worthen <helenaworthen@gmail.com> 
> escribió:
> > 
> > I have two suggestions for changing practices, along with subject 
> lines that accurately track a thread.
> > 
> > 1. Messages no more than two screens long. One is preferred.  
> > 
> > 2. No more individually addressed messages. As in, "Tom, you said X" 
> or "Melissa, you have misunderstood my point."   Refer to an 
> individual by quoting or citing, but speak to the list.
> > 
> > Both of these may not qualify as "modest." I can defend each one, 
> but will first wait for the *&^&*storm, if one is coming.  
> > 
> > Thanks --
> > 
> > Helena
> > :)
> > 
> > Helena Worthen
> > helenaworthen@gmail.com
> > 
> >> On Dec 12, 2014, at 11:43 AM, mike cole wrote:
> >> 
> >> Dear xmca0philes
> >> My most recent note, regarding discussion of sociocritical theory via
> >> Kris's RRQ paper, ​indicates part of my effort to implement modest 
> changes
> >> in the organization of xmca discourse aimed at improving its 
> usefulness and
> >> attractiveness to people (the two being mixed).
> >> 
> >> At the most minimum level, ​we can reduce some sources of misunderstanding
> >> and discoordination by declaring a distinct header for any topic anyone
> >> wants to discuss concerning culture and development in their broadest
> >> contexts. No guarantee ever that anyone will respond, let alone set 
> off a
> >> stream of responses. But at least we can keep sequence in the threads
> >> consistent, and they will be easy to retrieve as a set from the archiving
> >> web page should one want to.
> >> 
> >> There are no policepersons in this process. (But so far as I can 
> tell, no
> >> harm in nagging).
> >> 
> >> Other modifications in the structure of the discourse are possible. 
> It
> >> would be nice to know, for example, how many people actually read 
> xmca from
> >> time to time in some form, and how many of our 800+ subscribers 
> have xmca
> >> in their span filters. About 200 people people have posted in the past
> >> year. Bruce and I are working on a non-obtrusive way of checking to 
> see how
> >> many silent folks are lurking out of interest and how many are zombies.
> >> 
> >> Early on Annalisa suggested a sort of "Beginner's Manual" which 
> seemed like
> >> a good idea, but it requires some coordinated person power. A group 
> to
> >> create such a facility is in the process of formation, and I figure 
> there
> >> should be more about that appearing.
> >> 
> >> A year or more ago Andy and Huw put together a wiki that I think of
> >> (perhaps inappropriately) as a kind of "key word wiki" for CHAT.
> >> It exists, although it is in quarantine at present to insure that 
> it will
> >> never carry any viruses into the UCSD campus. This seems like
> >> a natural part of the xmca pool of resources, and may be useful to 
> the
> >> newbiies' materials.
> >> 
> >> We have looked into forums and other media for xmca, but so far as 
> I can
> >> tell, there is no general purpose utility that would not require the
> >> involvement of significantly more coordinated person power, and probably
> >> customizing, et that LCHC can manage. Perhaps I am wrong about this 
> and the
> >> new, great, effortless substitute is at your nearest supermarket. However,
> >> for the moment, we will continue working within the fungible, but perhaps
> >> not entirely elastic, structure of xmca.
> >> 
> >> Now, back to the thread I want to address,
> >> Imagination
> >> mike
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal with a natural science with 
> an
> >> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
> > 
> > 
> 



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