[Xmca-l] Re: Heidegger's Notebooks Renew Focus on Anti-Semitism - NYTimes.com

[Tom Richardson]

I do not know how useful my 'butting-in' here will be, but here is one view
on the "If Nazi, then an invalid philosopher" question/problem:

http://www.metamute.org/community/your-posts/heidegger-fuhrer-principal

Tom


On 31 March 2014 16:34, David Preiss <daviddpreiss@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> I yet don't know whether addressing the issue from the point of view of
> Heidegger's writings is relevant. I am aware that for many people in the
> philosophy departments what is attractive as a scholarly activity is to
> elucidate whether his philosophy has substantive connections with a Nazi
> worldview. I can understand why is interesting to them. And, yet, I doubt
> that the masses adhering to nazism got it from reading Heidegger or other
> philosophers as the nazism of the german populace was quite basic and quite
> naturalized.
>
> What I think is the real problem is how to judge the actions of
> intellectuals during times where the worst side of humanity takes center
> stage. Thus, I think that Heidegger has to be judged according to what he
> did, what he publicly said as regards the Holocaust (before, during and
> after). And we don't need to read the black notebooks to learn that his
> moral stature is not compatible with the sensitivity he shows in some of
> his writings.
>
> Alas, poor Celan, whom expected something different from him until the end:
> http://wings.buffalo.edu/epc/authors/joris/todtnauberg.html
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2014, at 2:18 AM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Among the many things to read, that was an interesting summary of the
> black
> > notebooks, David.
> >
> > Am i correct in interpreting the link between heidegger and anti-semitism
> > t, according to this account, to run through the sin of rationalism and
> its
> > epitome in mathematics as "calculation" presumably linking rationalism
> and
> > money lending, and hence the historical steretotype as in *Jew Suss*?
> > Or is that too simple?
> >
> > Is the anti-semitism endemic to the philosophy or contingent invasion of
> a
> > historical German cultural narrative?
> >
> > (signed)
> > The blind man with a stick
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 7:47 PM, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Martin:
> >>
> >> I've only seen short extracts from the "Black Notebooks", but what
> >> I've seen suggests that the real problem is not time but precisely the
> >> problem of "worlding" which was mentioned earlier.
> >>
> >> Jews, according to the "Black Notebooks", are an "unworlded" people,
> >> and because of that they are necessarily parasitic upon peoples who
> >> are deeply and profoundly in the world, i.e. his truly.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/31/books/heideggers-notebooks-renew-focus-on-anti-semitism.html?_r=0
> >>
> >> It's a big world, and there are lots of other things to read. They are
> >> only short extracts, but they are more than enough.
> >>
> >> David Kellogg
> >> Hankuk University of Foreign Studies
> >>
> >> On 31 March 2014 10:02, Martin John Packer <mpacker@uniandes.edu.co>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi David,
> >>>
> >>> Yes, this always the problem with Heidegger: his appalling politics,
> >> both professional and personal.  However, the conceptual problem he was
> >> working on was also important to philosophers with very different
> politics.
> >> For example, Lucien Goldmann found parallels between Heidegger and
> Lukacs
> >> (ref below). I find it helpful to (try to) understand what Heidegger was
> >> trying to do, and also understand how a philosopher of human existence
> was
> >> unable to prevent himself from becoming a very unpleasant human being.
> (The
> >> problem lies in his treatment of time, in my view.)
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>> Goldmann, L. (1979). Lukacs and Heidegger: Towards a new philosophy.
> >> Routledge and Kegan Paul.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:10 PM, David Preiss <daviddpreiss@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As an aside to the ongoing references to Heidegger... May be of
> >> interest or not.
> >>>> DP
> >>>>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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